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zBrown
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What's the score this week anyway?
Out in the greater world Bozo is laughing and there is the slightest whisper in the wind of a fat lady singing
Obviously has no sense of humor
NOW this is funnny
“Let's test this most recent claim,” Avenatti tweeted. “For over 9 yrs after the end of the affair - 2007, 08, 09, 10, 11 (In Touch), 12, 13, 14, 15, and 16 (Jan-Sept) - Mr. Trump had a family. And yet no payment was ever made to 'protect them.' Then, two weeks before the election, the payment was suddenly made.”
"Damn spearchuckers"
-Donny 'Don't PoleAxe Me" Trump
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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who paid hitlers rise to power?
In Germany, steel magnate Fritz Thyssen was a big financier. W.Averell Harriman and Prescott Bush ( Daddy of GWHB and granddaddy of GWB ) were his chief banking arm in the USA.
Their investment bank, the Union Banking Corporation, a part of Brown Brothers Harriman, continued to do business with Thyssen even after the start of WWII and was shut down in 1942 under the trading with the Enemies Act of 1917.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar
Those dealings were a big part of the Bush fortune, which began with $125 investment in UBC.
Oh, and there is he fact that Henry Ford’s German subsidiary used slave labor during the war to aid in Nazi armamnent poduction. He was producing armaments for Germany as early as 1936.Does that count?
Ford - Dearborn provided Rubber and raw materials even after war broke out. After the war, Fords assets were returned to the family fortune. ford’s German assets doubled during the war.
https://www.thenation.com/article/ford-and-fuhrer/
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WBraun
climber
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Go study all those brainwashed Perfumed Prince's in the Pentagon.
No ... poltards can only see as far as Trumps hairdooo nothing more.
And just go take a look at the morons Pompeo, Haley, etc.
You politards should be ashamed.
But you're not, instead, you're too busy studying Trump's golf swing and his st00pid tweets while the elite criminals are busy raping you ......
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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xcon, hypocritical Swedes get a pass just cause they’re semi-socialists now?
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 5, 2018 - 12:11pm PT
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WVB, you are, absolutely, correct. We should be ashamed.
This current state of affairs is an atrocity.
How, in the context of God's great design, did people screw things up so badly?
The Bible says that we're supposed to nurture and cultivate the earth.
Nowhere, in The Bible, does it sayeth that a man shall go forth, and commiteth Playboy bunny pussy adultery until he runeth out of payoff money.
The Good Book is rather clear, on that subject.
God is not stupid.
WTF kind of demonic moral majority would embrace such a thing?
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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It all proves one thing and demonstrates it profoundly
There is no God, No Karma, No retribution,
No higher power, no Gaia, and no hope for humanity
You can get away with anything as long as you dupe the right people
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WBraun
climber
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It proves only one thing that Fried Craig is insane ......
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 5, 2018 - 12:47pm PT
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Well stated, and correct in every aspect.
Except for one thing: my high-school French is well past its pull-date. I only understand one word of what you posted.
Gaia is just a short drive east from Santa Cruz. If you simply put a few gallons of gas into your tank, it is possible to drive there, and realize that it actually exists.
Or, just use the Google Map thing on your computer:
https://www.google.com/maps/search/Gaia/@36.8840683,-122.0867897,10z?hl=en
#BattleForReality
Hate My Guts on LinkedIn
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10b4me
Social climber
Lida Junction
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And just go take a look at the morons Pompeo, Haley, etc.
agreed..idiots who do not belong in government.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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President Chicken Little
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 5, 2018 - 06:25pm PT
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Avenatti tweeted
I've never been in love with a man, until Michael Avenatti. He is the JEDI MASTER.
I'd chop my thing off myself, if it'd get us together.
Trump can fire Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, and put some flunky, like Scott Pruitt, into position to fire Robert Mueller.
But, Trump will NEVER be able to be able to evade the tenacious and ferocious legal mind of MICHAEL AVENATTI.
I'll say it again: MICHAEL AVENATTI.
Someday, history will be written, and MICHAEL AVENATTI will be right there, at the top of an important chapter.
It is sometimes difficult to see history, as it is unfolding.
But, NostraThomas has a vision, a prescient vision, that this hill-billy lawyer from Missouri, who went to law school at night at the top of his class, will become one of the most important individuals who ensured that the United States of America didn't fall down during a Constitutional crisis.
This is true democracy in action. The GOP can derail the government's investigations, but a citizen pleading legitimately before the courts cannot be stopped.
God bless Michael Aventatti.
He's a true patriot. He's a formidable and herculean warrior in the Battle For Reality. He's the Man Of The Moment, at exactly the time that we need him, right now, at this moment. His aggression against lies, deceit, concealment and fraud are an inspiration to any person who values truth over falsity.
Michael Avenatti is so aggressive, you would want him to be on your side in a seriously dangerous fight.
And, he is.
If you can't take a punch, you don't belong in the ring.
 Michael Avenatti
I be woke.
And, you, too, should be woke.
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
Ah, too much!
When the discussion gets lively, that's when it gets good.
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jogill
climber
Colorado
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Who's Michael Avenatti?
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 5, 2018 - 09:17pm PT
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Oh, John. You've been there, for both Watergate and Humjobgate. This thing is both, all at the same time.
This guy, Michael Avenatti, is "Stormy Daniels"' lawyer, and wants to vacate a non-disclosure agreement between his client, a porno movie actress and producer, and Donald Trump. She asserts that she had a one-night stand with Trump, and also asserts that she was threatened with violence in furtherance of concealment of the affair. A sizeable payoff to keep her quiet - $130,000 - took place in late October 2016, right before the election.
But, it's more than that.
Mr. Avenatti wants to ensure that his client's case be brought forth, in full public disclosure.
Mr. Avenatti wants to reveal, what Trump and his crew have tried to conceal, is a feloniously illegal campaign payment to hide the ostensibly embarrassing tryst.
The sex is not the issue.
The cover-up, and the ongoing deceit, is the issue.
This is EXACTLY what got both Nixon and Clinton into trouble: impeding a Federal investigation. Martha Stewart went to prison for the same reason. Lying to Federal investigators is no joke, and Trump, the liar of all liars, is trying to dance around a potentially lethal deposition from Michael Avenatti in the present "Stormy Daniels" civil lawsuit. Trump can't hide behind the presidency, as couldn't President Clinton, when Paula Jones demanded that he answer for his prior behavior.
The facts have shown that $130,000 was paid to "Stormy Daniels", on, or about, three weeks before the election, to hide Trump's unsavory behavior from the public.
Michael Avenatti, representing "Stormy Daniels", alleges that she was threatened and bullied into silence by Trump's attorney/fixer/henchman, Michael Cohen, whose records from his office and residences have been raided by the the FBI, as part of a criminal investigation.
Michael Cohen is also being investigated by special counsel Robert Mueller, with respect to illegal foreign interference in the 2016 presidential election.
It's hard to imagine a situation more surreal than this.
Even the salacious movie producer Quentin Tarantino wouldn't be able to write this as a movie script.
This surreal situation is writing itself, in real time.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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John, Avenatti is bulldog of an attorney, who is all over the media these days. He is assertive, clear talking and comes across as brilliant.
he is also HIGHLY entertaining!
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 5, 2018 - 10:30pm PT
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Ken, I like that video. Avenatti is a master of his craft.
But my all-time favorite Avenatti video is this one.
Here, Avenatti goes bulldog-versus-lapdog against Michael Cohen's attorney.
THIS is the true meaning of "Covefe". ENJOY!
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Your friend is a thug. Thug, thug, thug, thug, thug, thug, thug, thug, thug, thug, thug, thug, thug . . . . . .
Avenatti counted off "thug" twenty times on his fingers, mocking Micheal Cohen's claim that "Stormy Daniels" owes him $20 million.
Michael Avenatti predicted, in that video, that Michael Cohen would be indicted. This was before Cohen's office and residences had been raided by the FBI to obtain information related to a criminal investigation.
Indictments against Michael Cohen are speculative at this time, but it is clear that his information has been seized by the FBI pursuant to a criminal investigation.
This is not FAKE NEWS that the United States Department of Justice has obtained and served a search warrant for whatever evidence was obtainable from the homes and offices of Michael Cohen. This is REAL NEWS.
It HAPPENED. It OCCURRED. The event TOOK PLACE. There is NO denialability. FACTS are FACTS. Papers were served, spaces were searched, evidence was collected, and an ongoing investigation is in process.
Trump's diatribes don't change the FACTS.
Reality in not based upon one crazy man's absurd statements.
Trump is acting in a manner similar to a guilty person, and the looming evidence against him would suggest prison for the rest of his life. His children and his daughter's husband are also under investigation, and appear to be indictable.
Trump's myriad delusia may be interesting to a studious team of hospital psychiatrists in the future. But, for now, Trump's quixotic battle with reality is a serious concern for the people of the United States, and for the rest of the world.
Michael Avenatti has accurately predicted the future, and will continue to do so.
Michael Avenatti is the Jedi Master.
Watch him, you will.
Hmmmmmmmm.
The Force.
Strong with him, it is.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 6, 2018 - 01:09am PT
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I've got a photo, taken in Santa Margarita, of a woman with her TRUMP banner in her yard.
It's hard to tell, sometimes, just what sort of person would still rally behind Trump, and pretend that their illusional reality somehow supplants the reality known to 6 billion people.
It really is astonishing.
I don't care if what he says is not the truth. I like what he says.
It is just INCREDIBLE, and UNBELIEVABLE.
Who are these people? And why do they think (don't think) the way they do?
I was raised on Euclidean geometry and other ancient Greek logic. The people who believe in Trump are not even at an intellectual level where 2+2 = 4
It's no coincidence that Ditsy Davos is the Secretary of Education. Ignorance = disempowerment
This is not just a Battle for Reality. It is a second Civil War, and we're not fighting back hard enough.
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nah000
climber
now/here
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Tom wrote: "I was raised on Euclidean geometry and other ancient Greek logic. The people who believe in Trump are not even at an intellectual level where 2+2 = 4"
jayzeus.
to be clear, for someone claiming to be logical there is a simple and basic error that predicates the "logic" underlying your previous post.
most of your post assumes the people who voted "for" trump are the issue.
while it is true that there was and is a percentage of folks who voted "for" trump and still support him, it is certainly not near to what pushed el trumperino into the winning column.
that came due to the mass of folks who held their nose and were voting "against" hilllary and the democrat platform...
these are the people the dems need to win back over...
yes, the folks who believe trump and his crew's lies are truly making america great again are effectively lost causes...
there are also still folks who think that "whites" marrying "blacks" is "wrong"...
who gives a shIt?
to assume that the relatively tiny [but vocal] minority of folks who voted "for" trump are where energy needs to be focused is mind bogglingly inept for anyone who claims to know that 2+2=4.
until the dems examine why people didn't want to vote for hill [it's been pretty simple since day one... and no it's not entirely because she is a woman, although i am certain that also played a role] and then figure out what they stand for that is different than what the republicans are offering and then finally find a good pitch person to present it all...
well... prepare yourself for 6 more years of the orange one, assuming mueller doesn't dig up some real dirt in the next bit.
BENGHAZI!1!!!!111!!!1!
STORMY!1!!!!!!!!
RUSSIA!1!!!!!1!!
EMOLUMENTS CLAUSE!1!!!!!!1!
or whatever the new great white hope of the entitled, who don't want to battle things out at the ballot box, is...
[tl;dr: the dems lost. either figure out why, accepting that barring the unknowable you're going to get four years led by someone with toddler-like emotional development resulting in at least tyrannical tendencies, or continue to contribute to eight years of the orange shIt gibbon and all of the buffoons he surrounds himself with...]
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 6, 2018 - 02:40am PT
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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No response needed. It's self-refuting.
Trump and his followers have brought something new to the world:
Linguistic defects comprising self-refuting statements.
#MAGA
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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the dems lost. either figure out why
we figured out why already
Well first, we won the popular vote
second, 100s of thousands of votes were either not counted or taken off the voter roles, fact
third, a billion dollar smear campaign against Hillary (Benghazi)
fourth, Russian and Cambridge Analytica smear campaign
fifth, Russian money funneled through the NRA
sixth, possible election fraud by changing vote totals, exit polls have documented this discrepancy
Having Canadians dictate the facts as they know them is quite disingenuous IMO
This election was Rigged, Trump said it and knows it
he is completely illegitimate
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