Coordinated attacks ongoing in France

Its LONG past time to take the gloves and restraints off our military. We have the best warriors on the planet. Turn them loose....let them hunt every one of these whack jobs down....and kill them.

The President of the United States can't do anything about an angry Tunisan with a truck and a gun.

And a lot of section 8 sure seems to be devoted to safety.

Thou shalt not kill....

You've been knocking it out of the park with common sense today, maddy.

So, let's not use these rogue incidents to derive anything in particular about national policy!

Bataclan Torture Coverup
After the Bastille Day attack in Nice, news outlets rehashed debunked claims that France actively covered up horrifying details of torture at the Bataclan in November 2015 attacks.


Claim: France deliberately suppressed information about torture and mutilation at the Bataclan in November 2015 to avoid upsetting Muslims.
False

Example: [Collected via e-mail and Internet, July 2016]

bataclan wiki

Origin:On 14 July 2016, scores of people were killed in Nice, France, when a large truck plowed through a Bastille Day crowd. This terror attack took place just eight months after a series of coordinated terrorist attacks hit Paris and claimed the lives of 130 people, 89 of whom were killed at the Bataclan nightclub.

As the world reacted in grief and horror to the Nice trgaedy, both Fox News and Britain's Daily Mail newspaper published articles reporting that France affirmatively covered up unspeakable acts of torture that occurred at the Bataclan on the night of the November 2015 attacks. A headline published by the latter sensationally asserted that France (then grieving) purposely covered up the worst details of what was by all accounts unbridled horror:
Bataclan_victims_were_castrated_by_the_ISIS_killers_and_had_their_eyes_gouged_out___Daily_Mail_Online

After repeating most of the rumors as if they were fact, the paper added that "prosecutors at the parliamentary inquiry into the Bataclan deaths have cast doubt over the claims after revealing that no sharp knives were found at the scene." Fox News (aggregating from a separate source) similarly framed the rumors as fact:

A French government committee has heard testimony, suppressed by the French government at the time and not published online until this week, that the killers in the Bataclan tortured their victims on the second floor of the club.

The chief police witness in Parliament said that an investigating officer, tears streaming down his face, rushed out of the Bataclan and vomited in front of him just after seeing the disfigured bodies.

According to this testimony, Wahhabist killers apparently gouged out eyes, castrated victims, and shoved their testicles in their mouths. They may also have disemboweled some poor souls. Women were stabbed in the genitals — and the torture was, victims told police, filmed for Daesh or Islamic State propaganda. For that reason, medics did not release the bodies of torture victims to the families, investigators said.

But prosecutors claimed these reports of torture were “a rumor” on the grounds that sharp knives were not found at the scene. They also claimed that maybe shrapnel had caused the injuries.

Both outlets single-sourced their claims from a 15 July 2016 article published by the HeatStreet web site. That outlet chose the hours after the Nice attack to dredge up old claims from an inquiry that occurred in March 2016, with the only marginal relevance to the claims being another outbreak of carnage and a frightened public. Nothing more occurred between the March 2016 inquiry and the July 2016 spate of claims to warrant republication of unvetted rumor in a time of international grief and worry.

The portion in question originated via an inquiry published (not suppressed) by the French government, based on 21 March 2016 testimony in which investigators were asked about rumors of torture or propaganda creation at the Bataclan. A translated version of the inquiry's minutes revealed that investigators soundly debunked the claims on record:

Mr President Fenech For the information of the inquiry, Mr. PT, can you tell us how you learned that there had been acts of barbarism within the Bataclan: beheadings, evisceration, enucleations?

MTP After the assault, we were with colleagues at the passage Saint-Pierre Amelot when I saw tears streaming out of the eyes of an investigator who went to vomit. He told us what he had seen. I did not know this colleague, but he was so shocked that it went to see it myself, naturally.

Alain Marsaud. Acts of torture happened on the second floor?

MTP I think, as I entered at the ground floor I saw there no such thing had occurred, only people hit by bullets.

Minutes from the inquiry session of 30 March 2016 again addressed what were clearly marked as rumors, and the government inquisition again heard no forensic evidence that supported such claims:

Mr. President. Following the November attacks, he was referred to the commission of barbaric acts.

François Molins. It's a rumor. Forensic doctors were categorical: there was no act of barbarism, no use, including knives. According to a witness, the testicles of a victim were cut off, but no findings have corroborated it.

Even if the French government hadn't made public their findings about torture and evisceration at the Bataclan prior to the attacks in Nice, the post-Bastille Day attack rumor operated on the assumption such a coverup was even possible. By all accounts, 89 people died at the Bataclan on 13 November 2015, while another 200 were wounded but survived, and many more escaped unscathed. Contemporaneous reports estimated that 1,000 people were in attendance at the Bataclan on 13 November 2015 with 700 of them were physically unharmed. Had the French government opted to cover up acts of torture and emasculation at the venue, there was nothing stopping the vast majority of surviving witnesses from sharing their stories. None did." Originally published: 15 July 2016

Bluering,

Saying that "thou shall not kill" is a watered down version of the modern, "you shall not murder" is religiously unsuportable on the most basic level of Catholicism.

You're not supposed to kill anyone...

If you don't, then you will be good and get to go to Heaven when you die. ('Report back later, we would all love to hear about life beyond the grave)

Why the rub while biding your time on a materialist planet, when spiritual rewards await you just for doing the right thing and then coughing up your last breath ?

There's no ski rack on a hearse.