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The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Nov 2, 2015 - 10:48am PT
Certainly good, but the temp is too high for much snow to stick in the Sierra.

And you said something about talking... smart.

3-4" in just the past hour and half at 9200'


Mt. Rose this morning at 7AM




The tragedy of these rain storms, is how little has been done to capture the water from them.

But your GUBERNOR is bent azz over his heals to have the Chinese build his Bullet Train that will save the world from Climate Change.

And invest less than 10% of the cost for that train to do just as you state should be done KENM.

What a swell guy.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Nov 2, 2015 - 10:49am PT
the obliteration of Earth.

You mean like the millions of times that it has occurred the past 3.2 Billion years?

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Don't know who you are quoting---it isn't me. You shouldn't type when you are smokin' your weed.
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Nov 2, 2015 - 11:01am PT
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Good to see a dusting at my local area..6700.ft...Lassen Wisitor center...

The Chief, You know ..you don't have to argue with everyone.
ps..Hope it dumps like crazy in the Sierra.
The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Nov 2, 2015 - 11:04am PT
Don't know who you are quoting---it isn't me. You shouldn't type when you are smokin' your weed.


Where did I ever direct my post to you, KenM? That was directed at Contractor. Smoking weed?

You should listen to Nita, Ken M.

You people are hysterical. Really.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Nov 2, 2015 - 12:38pm PT

Been coming down steady all day. I imagine they are getting quite a bit in the Sierra just 20 miles east.
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Nov 2, 2015 - 12:59pm PT
Exactly Chief- Since we're now discussing the drought in a cosmic time scale, asteroid hits, massive volcano blasts and catastrophic floods are inevitable, as is the ultimate annihilation of Earth.

Human pain and suffering is just a temporary condition that will be remedied in short order...
rincon

climber
Coarsegold
Nov 2, 2015 - 01:20pm PT
The drought has officially ended!
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Nov 2, 2015 - 01:23pm PT
perfect, let's move on to first world problems.
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Nov 2, 2015 - 03:51pm PT
August,

It is a lot more complicated than that. Much of it has to do with the legal rights to water, which in Ca is complex. So complex that legal scholars who work in the area do not think it will be sorted out in their lifetimes.

Is it complicated. Sure. Should cities conserve. Absolutely. But if cities cut their water to use to zero, California agriculture would still be "short" of water. And legal rights be damned. 35+ million voters will eventually get whatever water it takes to keep household taps on. A household can afford to pay far more for a gallon of water than a farmer trying to make a profit growing almonds.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Nov 2, 2015 - 03:56pm PT
The drought has officially ended!

It has?
John M

climber
Nov 2, 2015 - 04:02pm PT
If a tacofficial declares it so. then its so..



Badger!!! remember when it would open for Thanksgiving?

Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Nov 2, 2015 - 07:32pm PT
Not so simple, Chief:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/11/02/scientists-confirm-their-fears-about-west-antarctica-that-its-inherently-unstable/
The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Nov 2, 2015 - 07:53pm PT
Once again KenM you conveniently do not post this from one of the lead authors of the study...

Despite all of this, Levermann cautions that the results
should not be over-interpreted in an alarmist way, since whatever
change may be occurring, it is certainly not expected to happen all at once.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Nov 2, 2015 - 07:57pm PT
Did I advise panic??????
The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Nov 2, 2015 - 08:11pm PT
Did I ever state you did????

Feeling guilty huh... KenM.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Nov 2, 2015 - 09:32pm PT
"West Basin has been studying the cost of ocean water desalination since 1947 when West Basin was formed to present. Over the years several advances in the desalination technology have brought the costs down significantly.

When studying the cost of desalination the bulk contributor is energy consumption and power rates to produce the water.

It takes about 4,000 kWh to produce one (1) Acre-Foot of water utilizing ocean water desalination.

The energy consumption for other drinking water supplies can range from

3,500 kWh/AF for State Water Project water,
2,500kWh/AF Colorado River Aqueduct water, and
1,500kWh/AF for Indirect Potable Reuse recycled water. - See more at: http://www.westbasindesal.org/the-cost-of-desalination.html"
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Nov 2, 2015 - 09:33pm PT
Talking to the chief is like talking to a child. Same logic. Same education.
The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Nov 2, 2015 - 09:36pm PT
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca

Nov 2, 2015 - 09:33pm PT
Talking to the chief is like talking to a child. Same logic. Same education.

And talking to you KenM is just like talking to a parrot. Plain old learned responses, the sky is falling thought process and exactly the same level of irrational intelligence.

But by all means, don't let that deter you from continuing your parroting...
dirtbag

climber
Nov 3, 2015 - 09:02am PT
Funny, but I don't view water that runs to the ocean as wasted. That's what healthy west coast river ecosystems are supposed to do.
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Nov 3, 2015 - 01:55pm PT
On an average suburban street, a 1 inch rainstorm produces 1 million gallons of runoff. That is water that is wasted. If it were captured on the property where it falls, it is not overwhelming in volume, it is pure, and it is free.

The san joaquin valley gets like 12 inches of rain a year. If you captured 10% of that over the entire valley, you are talking an inch or so of recharge whereas the groundwater has falled up to several hundred feet. The Sierra gets up to 80 inches of water (at least historically). It really is about moving mountain precip south.

Also water that is captured isn't available for downstream use. So the upside is limited. In LA it would make sense to capture instead of putting it in a concrete channel and sending it to the sea. But in many areas it would be robbing Peter to pay Paul.
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