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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Jan 28, 2016 - 06:01pm PT
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Ok this is as clear as it gets. Lavoy got shot when his hands went to his pocket, which turned out to have a 9mm handgun in it.
Tragic, but suicide by cop.
State trooper did the shooting.
Lavoy almost hit an LEO when he went off the road.
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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Jan 28, 2016 - 06:14pm PT
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this is nsfl... in other words starting at about 9:15 in the video it's plain to see what directly preceded the shooting, as the video shows explicitly what happened. so, if you don't want to see a man get shot, don't hit play...
[Click to View YouTube Video]
this is one of the reasons why cops should wear cams... for their own protection.
while there will still be idiots who will say he had his hands up, as he did start that way, anybody with eyes can see that it's very clear he wasn't shot while on his knees and/nor with his hands in the air.
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kattz
climber
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Jan 28, 2016 - 06:28pm PT
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They sure had a nerve....driving around like no tomorrow, while occupying federal property, menacing and calling for violence...surprise, a roadblock! Who could think!?
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Jan 28, 2016 - 06:31pm PT
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I watched the video.
My condolences to Mr. Fincum's family & friends.
However, I offer up my heartfelt sympathies to OUR law enforcement officers, that had to shoot him, before he started shooting them.
Suicide by cop, clean for Mr. Fincum, and ugly for everyone else involved.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jan 28, 2016 - 06:33pm PT
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Can't fix stupid.. trump and cruz supporters all day long.....
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Jan 28, 2016 - 06:39pm PT
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Unfortunately, if one lives by the sword, they usually die by
the sword.
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kattz
climber
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Jan 28, 2016 - 06:39pm PT
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Bundy and Co. even here had complete disregard for public property. What about other people who needed to use why 395 for peaceful travel? (rather than for suicides by cop, high speed chases or standing in roadblocks) No regard for "common man" by these wannabe cattle barons...they think they own everything.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Jan 28, 2016 - 06:46pm PT
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Exactly Mr.Brennan.
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 28, 2016 - 07:03pm PT
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Why does anyone who posted sadness at the people who chose to die at their own hand or be killed bum rushing civil authorities, feel this way ?
It's a normal human beings true nature reaction.
By it's normal true nature a human being is very compassionate ......
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jan 28, 2016 - 07:15pm PT
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Tragic really. The guy was a simple sort who clearly stated he wasn't going to a concrete cell. Seems like he got caught up in this odd group with no real plan and didn't have the brain capacity to think the situation through. He didn't strike me as evil or anything, maybe just the opposite but lacking a worthy cause and latched onto this dead-end group.
But still, from the video... perfectly legitimate shooting. They really didn't have a choice and he did run that one guy right down to the left of the roadblock.
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kattz
climber
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Jan 28, 2016 - 07:18pm PT
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Finicum was expendable for the clique that was pulling the strings (Bundy clan)...they got their poster victim, themselves alive and working on plea deals...now they're gonna exploit it all to the max, I'm sure. Let's see if Bundy will actually do any time in prison...instead of being in Hollywood working on some "movie deal"
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Jan 28, 2016 - 07:30pm PT
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I think you will find the cop jumped out towards the path of the truck. Go thru it frame by frame. Pretty obvious.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Jan 28, 2016 - 07:36pm PT
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Welcome to our new poster Kattz!
Of course we are curious about you, since your history on Supertopo is 12 posts, all on this thread, since yesterday.
We'd enjoy knowing more about you, other than just your thoughts on this thread?
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Chewybacca
Trad climber
Kelly Morgan, Whitefish MT
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Jan 28, 2016 - 07:37pm PT
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Your right Monolith. The officer ran right into the path of truck. Puzzling.
The worst tragedy about this whole idiotic affair is that man's children no longer have a father. I can't imagine them watching this video. Very sad.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 28, 2016 - 07:41pm PT
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Bundy will do serious time, federal law mandates minimum sentences, no probation. Ask the Hammonds about that.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jan 28, 2016 - 07:44pm PT
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Fritz und Kattz
Who cares?
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Jan 28, 2016 - 07:52pm PT
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Jest curious as a Katz.
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jonnyrig
climber
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Jan 28, 2016 - 07:52pm PT
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Go walk out on a freeway with some speeding vehicles coming at you, while standing in front of a stopped one that obscures your view. Which way will you go?
Far as the dead man, bad choice to put your hands in your pockets given the situation. Out of all the LE there, only one of them opened fire? Far more controlled than a lot of the common LE shootings that seem to happen these days.
WWJD? I'm sure hell' be along shortly to tell us.
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