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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Mar 25, 2014 - 10:54am PT
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It is good to see that you are going to get out of the confines of your Livermore cubicle for a while and go out into the world. From your post above, it is clearly obvious that you need it desperately. Some fresh air will do you good. Hopefully that will entail you also getting out of the entitlement liberal box of the Bay Area in order to experience some real down to earth humans that are busy living their lives and not worrying about some fantasy political agenda.
I actually said a prayer that you do not venture to Albuquerque. God forbid you get the mental rabid infectious disease which is obviously going around in that area and that Fortmental has been bitten by. That would certainly put your professional life in dire jeopardy. Your clearance would then definitely get pulled. Then you would end up doing janitorial work as does old Fortmental.
proof of brain damage caused by long term Radon/Faux news exposure.
EDHit- Yabadabadoo?
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2014 - 10:57am PT
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Glanton, without people from all walks of life, like The Chief, willing to battle the lunacy of the cuckoo birds, ...
That's classic rick. Remember when The Chief tried to plot his own graph and clearly demonstrated that he knew nothing of what he was talking about?
Remember when The Chief stated that scientific study and the belief in religious dogma were the same?
The loudmouth The Chief who continually brings this thread down to a grade-school level? Yeah rick, you really attached your trailer to the standout character on this thread.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Mar 25, 2014 - 11:02am PT
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Yes, proud to stand with him Kelly. I note he is joined by most of the pro CAGW crowd on this thread in marginalizing themselves in his mud wrestling pit.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2014 - 11:17am PT
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Does any you reject that there has been no global warming in the past 10-15 years?
 sci-fi
sci-fi, good thing English isn't your major. However, this always puzzles me: If there was no global warming in the past 10-15 years, how do you explain this:
link: 13 of 14 Hottest Years on Record All Occurred in 21st Century
If global warming stopped, how come 2013 was so hot?
link: 2013 was one of the 10 hottest years on record
Possessing smarts like The Chief, rick, sci-fi, Sketch, somebody should be able to explain to me why the idea that global warming has stopped contradicts the observed reality.
Somebody, anybody? PhDs urged to represent here!
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Mar 25, 2014 - 11:23am PT
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Hey Sci-fi, did your advanced science degree say you don't need to consider the warming oceans as part of global warming?
BTW, it's easy to find sections of the atmosphere surface temp record that don't show warming, each one higher than the last.
Do you understand the concept of variance about the trend/mean?
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2014 - 12:02pm PT
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You seem to be confusing value (temperature) with change in value (warming).
Can you elaborate, I want to learn.
Here's what I understand, please provide details of where I've gone off track:
The temperature is Hot. And, according to year-after-year readings, it continues to be Hot. In fact, the temperature seems to be rising (how else could 2013 be hotter than previous years in the same decade?).
The claim the warming has stopped addresses changing temperature values, right?? If so, shouldn't the temperature (value) cease to rise?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Mar 25, 2014 - 01:18pm PT
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Bruce Kay!
love that video!
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Mar 25, 2014 - 02:04pm PT
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Your 'pause' looks kinda weak, Sketch, with very little change in the long term trend.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2014 - 02:07pm PT
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"No wonder your lips are superglued to this fantasy AGW ideology teat."
The Chief proves once again that he can't operate above the grade-school level.
dipsh#t, noun
1. A despised person; a moron; an ineffectual person; one with a habit of being wrong, loudly and often.
What a perfect definition. And in reply, I fully expect The Chief to provide further proof that this is indeed his level of contribution.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2014 - 02:10pm PT
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The trendline for 2003 to the present has the highest slope (0.00015262 per year).
Yeah Sketch, you really got that one down.
Yawn.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2014 - 02:14pm PT
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Looks to me like the right-wing spin has you gripped by the balls, The Chief.
Can you prove me wrong?
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2014 - 02:24pm PT
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You are confused The Chief. "Right-wing" is not a political party, although many right-wing folks align themselves with the Republican party.
Is Fox News "right-wing"? Are they a political party?
From where do you get your beliefs on climate change?
Keep going though, you're doing a good job of providing us with a glimpse of how you reason.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Mar 25, 2014 - 02:38pm PT
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it is all a fanatical modern day religious joke
I presume you weren't being ironic.
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TLP
climber
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Mar 25, 2014 - 02:54pm PT
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Sketch, you and others constantly clamor for an explanation; but your only reaction to those explanations, from the scientists who actually know the most, is to reject them. If you're not going to believe any explanation that's provided, just stop asking.
That said, I agree, it's a puzzling little piece of temperature record, but we are still within the +/-5% of the average of the models, so not really a fundamental big deal with regard to needing to reassess some terms or algorithms for at least another 10 years, probably. You don't seem to have a problem with the fact that there aren't quanitative explanations of the causes of big temperature increases, why so obsessed with the opposite? It doesn't really fly to say "oh, it was El Nino" - what caused that?? It's a really complex system, we would need a million or trillion times as many data sensors, of many kinds, distributed throughout the planet surface and oceans to have the data set necessary to be able to explain all the many temperature wiggles to the last detail. Unless you vocally advocate for this level of increase in the science, don't complain that the data and computing power can't give us the level of resolution you'd like.
Speaking of oceans, what about that increase in ocean heat content that continues unabated right through the past 15 years? What's your explanation for that? Do you not believe this heat will ever be expressed in terms of surface climate change, no matter how much additional heat accumulates in all that water? And it is a lot of heat content.
Don't just keep repeating the same stuff we've seen thousands of times on this thread. How about addressing this specific new subject?
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2014 - 03:08pm PT
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From where do you get your beliefs on climate change?
I don't.
You post to this thread scores of times a day and claim you don't have a belief on climate change?
It must be tough to realize that some of the potatoes you peeled in the service had a better ability to reason than yourself.
Yeah Rick, "Hail The Chief." Looks like you found a ripe one.
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dirtbag
climber
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Mar 25, 2014 - 03:55pm PT
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All bullshit and sh#t slinging aside Chief,
I greatly appreciately your service.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Mar 25, 2014 - 04:38pm PT
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Hey, TheChief....
You ever practice in or around Pickle Mdw?
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Mar 25, 2014 - 04:43pm PT
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Coo, I sold some aluminum snap shackles to some Marines from there once when they were visiting Sonora. They were stopping by to check out the new plastic tele boot...TheTerminator. Crazy eyes they had 8^) We also used to stop and play on their crag on EastSideTrips from T county. Beautiful country!
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HermitMaster
Social climber
my abode
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Mar 25, 2014 - 04:50pm PT
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" They were stopping by to check out the new plastic tele boot...TheTerminator"
I loved that boot. And, they still ski better broken, than the piece of crap I am skiing now.
Which reminds me, I need new boots.
Anybody got any recommendations?
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Mar 25, 2014 - 05:23pm PT
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I got the 2011 BD Push boots. They are tan in color. The work well! Not as stiff as my old T-Race. Also, I have very wide feet and they still needed some punching-out due to my Morton's Neuroma I acquired by wearing tight-assed climbing shoes!! Good luck!
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