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cleo
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Berkeley, CA
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Sep 19, 2011 - 06:38pm PT
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Verison 3! Thanks k-man for the feedback! Main complaint was the postulation of bribery to get everyone to cooperate, so we'll go with *convinced* instead. Ver 3 changes now underlined:
So, to sum it up, some unknown entity (very convincing entity (wrong: money for bribes) and access to the FBI, FAA, Pentagon Security, Air Traffic Controller Lists,ETC (incorrect before: US Gov't)
1 - kidnapped passengers and crew of folks who left home to board American Airlines Jet (incorrect before: hijacked AA Jet)
2 - killed off the crew and passengers
2b - convinced American Airlines to say they were missing a jet
3 - used voice-morphing technology that exactly mimics the voices of those passengers and made some phone calls to their families saying they were on a hijacked jet
3b - convinced the seatphone operators to say they had received these calls
4 - flew the jet over the pentagon
5 - launched a missile that hit at the same time as the jet flew over and the same location (one of those jet-avoiding missiles)
6 - convinced the local air traffic controllers to say that the jet disappeared
7 - hurried down the the pentagon after the impact to spread DNA from the missing passengers and airplane parts around
8 - convinced all the witnesses who saw the missile to say they saw a jet explode.
9 - scurried around collecting all video and photos
10 - convinced first responders to who saw the fake FBI spreading airplane and body parts around
11 - convinced a few hundred structural engineers, explosive engineers, civil engineers to write reports supporting the unknown entity's version
12 - and had this perfectly timed with 3 other elaborate but very different and successful inside plots, all of which are still fooling most of America.
until... (I forgot about this)
An 18 year old kid named Dylan Avery uncovered it all and made a movie about it?
Does this match your understanding? Just trying to resolve all the evidence here.
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dirtbag
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Sep 19, 2011 - 06:43pm PT
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The whole thing is a big joke.
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Gene
climber
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Sep 19, 2011 - 06:44pm PT
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Cleo,
Thanks for making this inane thread fun again.
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EDIT: I'll be the guy in YV tomorrow with the tin foil hat. Please be gentle with me.
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cleo
Social climber
Berkeley, CA
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Sep 19, 2011 - 06:45pm PT
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Oh, I get it...
Your list of make-believe events is meant to make the Truthers seem like idiots, and therefor you list is a list of insults.
It's the make-believe events. But wait, if they're make-believe, then why are you guys running around trying to prove them? I'm just summing them up. Heck, the title of the whole thread is "Video of Missile Hitting the Pentagon", and one of the things on my list is the missile hitting the pentagon. I didn't make THAT one up!
So... there you have it... make-believe events!
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 19, 2011 - 06:48pm PT
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OK, I admit, I didn't read much of the BS that cleo posted in her revised list, because, well I could tell it was BS. But I reread it and I now think it's best to respond to her questions:
She states:
After all, from what I've read here, that list summarizes *why* you think 9-11 should be investigated (again).
This proves that what she wrote was complete BS because nothing in her list summarizes why the Truthres believe 9-11 should be investigated. Not again, but for the first time.
Here's her BS, and my replies:
1 - kidnapped passengers and crew of folks who left home to board American Airlines Jet (incorrect before: hijacked AA Jet)
I'm not sure many folks think that the planes were not taken in some way. Certainly no reputable Truther site denies this. What's the point here?
2 - killed off the crew and passengers
Um, what? You read this where?
2b - bribed American Airlines to say they were missing a jet
Um, what? You read this *where*?
3 - used voice-morphing technology that exactly mimics the voices of those passengers and made some phone calls to their families saying they were on a hijacked jet
Um, what? You read this where?
3b - bribed the seatphone operators to say they had received these calls
OK, this is getting old. Where on Earth did you read this. More made up BS is my conclusion. Come on cloe, what is your point here, making all this stuff up?
4 - flew the jet over the pentagon
Well, there were eye witnesses who claimed they saw this. Why not look into it? I know why, because you want to believe only the folks you want to believe.
5 - launched a missile that hit at the same time as the jet flew over and the same location (one of those jet-avoiding missiles)
Show me where this was stated. Otherwise, more made up BS from the [small] mind of cloe.
6 - bribed the local air traffic controllers to say that the jet disappeared
Let's see, you stated "from what I've read here, that list summarizes *why* you think 9-11 should be investigated." This implies that the list you give us is somehow supported by things you're read.
Come on, how about one small reference to any post that claims anything like this. OR are you still BS'ing?
7 - hurried down the the pentagon after the impact to spread DNA from the missing passengers and airplane parts around
Ho boy ...
8 - bribed all the witnesses who saw the missile to say they saw a jet explode.
Are you beginning to see a pattern of lies?
9 - scurried around collecting all video and photos
I don't know about photos, but videos were collected. Or are you denying this fact?
10 - bribed first responders to who saw the fake FBI spreading airplane and body parts around
If cloe was a 4-year old, we'd say "what a cute imagination." But for an adult, we call them Liars.
11 - bribed a few hundred structural engineers, explosive engineers, civil engineers to write reports supporting the government's version
Really, you read this? Or are you just still lying. How many is that now?
12 - and had this perfectly timed with 3 other elaborate but very different and successful inside plots, all of which are still fooling most of America.
Ummm, do I need a response for this? Let me know.
Ok, what did I get wrong this time?
Did I answer your question to your satisfaction?
Now, how about answering one of mine: Why do you make up so much BS?
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monolith
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Sep 19, 2011 - 07:00pm PT
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2 - killed off the crew and passengers
Um, what? You read this where?
Dude, the claim is the dna was planted in the Pentagon. Yep, we'll just take their dna, and let them go as long as they promise not to tell anyone they are still alive.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 19, 2011 - 07:04pm PT
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cloe (and others),
Here is a hint:
35 Reasons to Question 9/11
This is not a list of made up events, a la cloe.
This is a list of 35 facts--many point to obvious cover-ups.
Take a few of these and see if that sits well with you. Or are you going to brush it off or just think it's odd, and move on?
Here's a few of my favorites:
19 – The Bush administration tried desperately to prevent any type of investigation into the attacks, but when it finally caved under immense public pressure Bush attempted to appoint Henry Kissinger to head the commission, causing even the mainstream media to ask whether this was an attempt at a cover-up.
#20 – The Bush administration actually wrote a memo to the 9/11 commission co-chairmen telling them that it would be “crossing the line” for the commission to even attempt to talk to the terrorist detainees upon whose testimony the commission relied.
#21 – Even the 9/11 Commission co-chairmen have admitted that the commission was set up to fail.
#22 – There are numerous facts demonstrating how the 9/11 Commission was obstructed in its investigation into the attacks by its own members.
Do you want to deal in a make-believe world, like cloe, or do you want to deal with facts. Your choice.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Sep 19, 2011 - 07:04pm PT
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OMG, you have opened my eyes. All this time I thought my dog couldn't fly, he was doing air shows disguised as a 74 year old real estate agent.
Look at the facts:
My dog Willie was nowhere to be seen during the time of the crash.
The plane crashed into the VIP section.
The pilot was Jimmy Leeward, 74 years old.
Willie is 74 in doggy years and a hunting dog, who instinctively prefers the "leeward" side of his prey.
Willie Jimmy Tapangararua, often just referred to as Willie Jimmy, is a Vanuatu politician with the National United Party and the country's first ambassador to China.
My office mate from China is terrified of Willie... I thought it was weird at first, but it all makes sense now.
Vanuatu was a tax haven and a "flag of convenience" country, until about the time Willie Jimmy became ambassador.
There is no question that a full investigation into the tragic Reno air show crash will reveal that Willie, currently hiding in a cave under my porch, deliberately crashed that plane and faked his own death in order to take out a Vanua'aku Party member.
Judging by the reaction from Nevada politicians, there is no doubt they were in on it.
Not a single spectator claims to have seen Willie Jimmy in the plane at the time of the crash.
Even with all the video cameras, photos, etc... not a single image of Willie in the cockpit... empty!
The most important thing is that you cannot disprove any of this.
Just like no one can disprove that k-man is a reptilian.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 19, 2011 - 07:13pm PT
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Dude, the claim is the dna was planted in the Pentagon. Yep, we'll just take their dna, and let them go as long as they promise not to tell anyone they are still alive.
Really? Who claimed that? Got a reference?
PS. There is a lot of fuzzy "facts" floating around in relation to this. Many things are known, many things are claimed. It's difficult, almost impossible, to separate the wheat from the chaff.
Stick to the facts, otherwise this whole thread might as well be sci-fi.
And, there ARE facts that point to Gov't cover-ups. If that doesn't bother you, I can't help.
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monolith
climber
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Sep 19, 2011 - 07:15pm PT
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^^hilarious denier^^
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 19, 2011 - 07:16pm PT
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^^^ Obvious no reference. ^^^
monolith can never back up his claims, so this is no new surprise that he can't back up this claim.
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monolith
climber
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Sep 19, 2011 - 07:17pm PT
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just google "dna planted at pentagon" silly boy.
You are in denial K-man.
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monolith
climber
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Sep 19, 2011 - 07:19pm PT
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Yep, supertopo is the beginning and end of 9/11 info.
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monolith
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Sep 19, 2011 - 07:22pm PT
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So K-Man, you are saying the dna could have been planted/fabricated, and the passengers are still alive?
Need I remind you?
2 - killed off the crew and passengers
Um, what? You read this where?
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WBraun
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 19, 2011 - 07:31pm PT
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Quit muckin up the experiment and investigation.
Yer all amateurs not pros like us with many years in the business.
Cheney is gonna spill the beans soon.
Then all these Supertopo mental overlord speculators will be put to sleep.
You'll be toast when the the missile of truth is laser guided up yer asses ......
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Sep 19, 2011 - 07:33pm PT
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cloe (and others),
Here is a hint:
35 Reasons to Question 9/11
This is not a list of made up events, a la cloe.
This is a list of 35 facts--many point to obvious cover-ups.
k-man....are you serious??? i just read that list. you seriously are not hanging your hat on that BS are you? for real?
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 19, 2011 - 07:34pm PT
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Werner, Hahahahahahahaha.....
Yes, I am in denial.
How about you:
#21 – Even the 9/11 Commission co-chairmen have admitted that the commission was set up to fail.
#22 – There are numerous facts demonstrating how the 9/11 Commission was obstructed in its investigation into the attacks by its own members.
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monolith
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Sep 19, 2011 - 07:36pm PT
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K-Man doesn't want to talk about the passengers whose dna could have been planted/fabricated at the pentagon. Perfectly understandable.
2 - killed off the crew and passengers
Um, what? You read this where?
You should connect the dots for us K-Man.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 19, 2011 - 07:38pm PT
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Hawkeye, can be be more specific? Like, what part of the story (or 35 things) do you have a problem with?
I posted some of my favorite, do you deny that Bush resisted setting up an investigation, underfunded it, then tried to put Henry Kissinger in charge?
So many Believers with hot air...
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