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k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Oct 18, 2015 - 09:59am PT
Damn spell check... ;-)
The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Oct 18, 2015 - 10:08am PT
Hwy 6 - Chalfant North is closed due to major flash flooding all the way up and through and over Montgomery Pass.

Flooding in Chalfant proper. We just had over two hours of steady downpour and lightning. Snow level is down to around 6kish behind my house.

Looking across the Valley, snow down to 7-8kish all over the Eastern slopes.

Oh Man.... it's starting off good.

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
FLASH FLOOD WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE RENO NV
845 AM PDT SUN OCT 18 2015

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN RENO HAS ISSUED A

* FLASH FLOOD WARNING FOR...
SOUTHERN MONO COUNTY IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA...

* UNTIL 1145 AM PDT

* AT 844 AM PDT...LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT REPORTED FLASH FLOODING
ACROSS THE WARNED AREA. FLASH FLOODING IS ALREADY OCCURRING.
EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER THE WARNED AREA WILL CAUSE MUD SLIDES NEAR
STEEP TERRAIN. THE MUD SLIDE CAN CONSIST OF ROCK...MUD...VEGETATION
AND OTHER LOOSE MATERIALS.

* SOME LOCATIONS THAT WILL EXPERIENCE HEAVY FLOODING INCLUDE...
CHALFANT.


* HIGHWAY 6 IS CURRENTLY CLOSED FROM CHALFANT TO WAFFORD ROAD.

AT 948 AM PDT...LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT REPORTED FLASH FLOODING IN
CHALFANT VALLEY CALIFORNIA. FLASH FLOODING IS ALREADY OCCURRING
AND HAS FLOODED AT LEAST ONE HOUSE IN CHALFANT.


EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER THE WARNED AREA WILL CAUSE MUD SLIDES NEAR
STEEP TERRAIN. THE MUD SLIDE CAN CONSIST OF ROCK...MUD...VEGETATION
AND OTHER LOOSE MATERIALS.
SOME LOCATIONS THAT ARE EXPERIENCING FLOODING INCLUDE...
TOWN OF CHALFANT AND ALONG U.S. HIGHWAY 6 IN THE CHALFANT VALLEY
http://alerts.weather.gov/cap/wwacapget.php?x=CA1253C6476A04.FlashFloodWarning.1253C647DF34CA.REVFFWREV.a4f8bf9846abefd5260f8c2cf21a0cc9
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Oct 18, 2015 - 01:09pm PT
http://www.express.co.uk/news/weather/612369/SHOCK-CLAIM-World-is-on-brink-of-50-year-ICE-AGE-and-BRITAIN-will-bear-the-brunt
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Oct 18, 2015 - 03:27pm PT
Yeah DMT I know the reservoir is upstream, but unless it was a very localized downpour the topography allows similar rainfall to largely drain into the pond. That last pic; the domes below Bear River Reservoir?
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
Oct 18, 2015 - 07:59pm PT
Chief...Hiway 6 is closed north of Chalfant...? You might have to take the long way round to Benton for your meth fix...? Nice lightening show going off in the Whites right this moment...
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Oct 18, 2015 - 11:19pm PT
ground will soak up rain like a dry sponge,

but looks like a killer flood year on the way, LA cars burried in mud,
build it, dam it, and levees too, maybe a peripharalial canal while your at it,

look for 250,000 cfs on the S Fork American, probably around Dec 29th, meanwhile, get out the metal detectors and pull out fishing lures,

anybody get the TeePee pic? like go Nomadic, follow the water,
or was that too cryptic?

Mexico having problems too, el chapo' next hideout>

neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Oct 19, 2015 - 01:57am PT
hey there say, dingus and nita... thanks for the shares...

say, and TGT thanks for the links...

say, i got friends in england and they let me know the weather, each year...

the one, she is out on the moors... wild winds, as it is... hope it won't be too worse... but wow...


from the link, well, ohmy, i best go read it ...
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
Oct 19, 2015 - 05:27am PT
me think el chapo hiding in tee pee ..? Me wrong...tee pee too cryptic...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 21, 2015 - 07:43am PT
Nice article in the LA Times today about water scofflaws - the Oakland Athletics' exec Billy
Beane has been using 6000 gallons a day for yonks!

CUT 'EM OFF!
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Oct 21, 2015 - 08:29am PT
Why is that a big deal, but a tract of new houses - each one using an average of 360 gallons/day - isn't news?

I can point to several tracts of new houses, all started since we were asked to conserve water, going in all over the place around here.

If there's enough water for KB Homes and Lewis Homes to buy-low-sell-high-f*#k-over-the-landscape-and-move-to-the-next-project, why should the L.A. Times care about that one joker in Oakland?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 21, 2015 - 08:32am PT
Well, Chaz, cause he has lots of like-minded company. Some butthole in Beverly Hills has
been using 12,000 gallons per day! That should be at least a misdemeanor, if not worse!
dirtbag

climber
Oct 21, 2015 - 09:11am PT
Chaz and Reilly: you're both right!
looks easy from here

climber
Ben Lomond, CA
Oct 21, 2015 - 01:11pm PT
@Reilly-Just saw your pic of Hetch Hetchy. Thanks. Looks kinda grim. Fortunately the plan's migrated upstream quite a bit.
squishy

Mountain climber
Oct 21, 2015 - 04:50pm PT
Shasta update

TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Oct 21, 2015 - 07:22pm PT
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-scottys-castle-closed-20151021-story.html
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
Oct 21, 2015 - 08:54pm PT
12,000 gals a day..? That's a lot of colonics...
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Oct 23, 2015 - 07:38am PT
Boss went to a monthly So Cal water utilities association lunch yesterday.

The speaker was a well regarded meteorologist.

He told them to get their infrastructure ready for 30"-35" between January and March and that it is a sure a thing as you can get with a long range projection.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Oct 23, 2015 - 07:46am PT
Dam straight!

There was a day when infrastructure kept up with population growth. But not for the last forty years it hasn't.

Now, we're back to doing the Rain Dance, praying El Nino comes to our rescue. Exactly the same way the Indigenous Peoples did it 1,000 years ago.
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Oct 23, 2015 - 07:49am PT
I wanna el nino..
I remember last el nino.. we need it
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Oct 23, 2015 - 11:44am PT
Dams are the WRONG concept for this age. The Dam age has passed.

First, all the good spots are taken. Already dammed up.
Second, many of the remaining spots are now used for other things, like cities.


But far more important, one has to keep in mind what dams actually are: water storage devices.

When you look at it that way, you will quickly realize that we have unbelievably massive water storage devices just waiting for the water to come, RIGHT NOW.

That is the groundwater aquifers (massive lakes) that lay under the ground in the central valley (even in LA!).

The current estimate by the Jet Propulsion Lab via satellite mapping, is that the current unmet capacity of the central Valley is 15 BILLION acre feet.

You don't have to build a DAM THING.

Just to put this in perspective, the deficit is about equal to the entire water consumption of Los Angeles for 25 THOUSAND YEARS.

What really has to happen is to build infrastructure to CAPTURE the excessive rainwater effectively, instead of allowing it to simply run off into the ocean.

In Los Angeles, we are making huge investments to do exactly that.

"Currently, the city captures about 27,000 acre-feet of water, which is used to recharge our groundwater supplies. By 2099, the city aims to collect between 170,000 and 280,000 acre-feet, a huge improvement"
(current yearly usage is about 200,000 acre-feet)
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