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WBraun

climber
Nov 3, 2013 - 04:47pm PT
Guys like Ken M is what's wrong with the USA.

Ken M doesn't even have a tiny clue what's really going on ......
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Nov 3, 2013 - 10:20pm PT
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/11/03/book-alleges-obama-told-aides-about-drone-strikes-im-really-good-at-killing-people/
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Nov 3, 2013 - 10:23pm PT
What is truth?

http://www.wnd.com/2013/11/cia-hit-in-1950s-mirrors-jfk-assassination/

"CIA hit in 1950s mirrors JFK assassination

Neither accused killer lived to tell his story
Published: 5 hours ago

The JFK assassination bears remarkable resemblance to a coup d’etat in Guatemala engineered by the CIA under the direction of Allen Dulles during the Eisenhower administration in the 1950s, contends WND senior writer Jerome Corsi, author of the newly released “Who Really Killed Kennedy? 50 Years Later: Stunning New Revelations about the JFK Assassination.”

The CIA plan was to shoot and kill the Guatemalan head-of-state and place the blame for the assassination on a “patsy,” a person innocent of the crime, who in turn would be murdered to frustrate any subsequent criminal investigation or trial.

Both assassins, as Corsi points out, were ex-military who left the service expressing distinct sympathies for communist Russia.

As WND reported, Corsi raises the provocative question of whether the JFK assassination was a revenge killing masterminded by CIA Director Allen Dulles. Corsi’s extensive research shows JFK may have signed his death warrant the day he fired Dulles, accusing his spy chief of lying and manipulating him in the Bay of Pigs fiasco. Corsi presents evidence that the Bay of Pigs invasion had been planned by the CIA during the Eisenhower administration as an eleventh-hour “October surprise” designed to catapult Vice President Richard M. Nixon into the White House over his Democratic Party rival, Kennedy.

“Who Really Killed Kennedy,” released last month as the 50th anniversary of the assassination approaches, is bolstered by recently declassified documents that shed new light on the greatest “who-done-it” mystery of the 20th century. Corsi sorted through tens of thousands of documents, all 26 volumes of the Warren Commission’s report, hundreds of books, several films and countless photographs.

In the 1950s, the United Fruit Company, then the world’s largest importers of bananas to the United States had some powerful friends in Washington, D.C.

Secret details of JFK’s assassination are finally unlocked. Get your autographed copy of “Who Really Killed Kennedy?” by Jerome Corsi now!

Allen Dulles, appointed by Eisenhower to head the CIA in 1953, had ties with the United Fruit Company back to 1933, when it hired Sullivan & Cromwell, the prestigious Wall Street firm in New York where Dulles was a lawyer.

After being retained as legal counsel, Dulles bought a large block of United Fruit stock.

In Washington, Thomas G. Corcoran, the prominent New Deal attorney known as “Tommy the Cork” Corcoran, was Harvard-trained, a clerk for Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes and a confident of President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Since the 1940s, the company had also retained Edward L. Bernays, the genius consultant credited for inventing public relations as a profession, whose 1928 book “Propaganda” was openly admired by Nazi Minister of Propaganda Joseph Goebbels.

The problem began in March 1951 when Jacobo Arbenz, a professional Army officer who was the son of a Swiss pharmacist father who migrated to Guatemala, took over the leadership of the country after a successful military coup.

CIA operative E. Howard Hunt described Arbenz as “a man of modest intellect” who “had married the daughter of a prominent San Salvador family, and she, a doctrinaire Communist, had guided has career from army ranks to the presidency of Guatemala.”

Arbenz’s great sin was to initiate land reform, expropriating 225,000 acres of property from the United Fruit Company, then Guatemala’s largest employer. Ultimately, Arbenz nationalized more than 1.5 million acres, including some of his family land, to turn over to the nation’s peasants. Much of that land belonged to the United Fruit Company.

Finally, President Eisenhower and Vice President Richard Nixon ordered the National Security Council to overthrow the Arbenz regime in Guatemala.

The CIA offered the assignment to E. Howard Hunt.

“I was told that this was currently the most important clandestine project in the world,” Hunt wrote, “and that if I accepted the position, I would be the head of the project’s propaganda and political action staff.”

In discussing his plans for Guatemala, Hunt was particularly open that his assignment included authorization for using covert methods to combat in Guatemala the spread of communist influence in the Western Hemisphere.

To provide the Eisenhower administration the required “plausible deniability,” Hunt determined that within the CIA the Guatemalan operation would be conducted on a “need-to-know” basis.

A cover program was set up under the code name “PB/Success.” Hunt’s unit had its own funds, communications center and chain of command within the CIA’s Western Hemisphere Division.

In Honduras, Hunt and the CIA trained a small band of mercenaries under Col. Carlos Castillo Armas, a Guatemalan military officer who had escaped from prison after an unsuccessful coup attempt against Arbenz in November 1950, as Arbenz was assuming power.

On June 17, 1954, Armas and his band of mercenaries crossed the Honduran border into Guatemala.

For several days, Hunt and the CIA organized American jets and American pilots to strafe and bombard Guatemala City, the capital of Guatemala.

The truth is that Carlos Castillo Armas did not lead a popular uprising against a communist regime, he lead a mercenary army financed and trained by the CIA in a CIA-engineered coup d’etat.

Behind the scenes were John Foster Dulles, secretary of state under Eisenhower, and his brother Allen Dulles, who headed the CIA.

The propaganda campaign designed by Hunt and Bernays was designed to make Arbenz and his government appear to be an “instrument of Moscow,” “a pawn in the communist propaganda campaign” and a “spearhead of the Soviet Union,” as the Arbenz government complained to the United Nations.

On June 25, 1954, Arbenz resigned and went into exile in the Mexican embassy.

On July 3, 1954, Armas returned to Guatemala City aboard a U.S. Embassy airplane. He received a hero’s welcome, all orchestrated by the CIA, from 100,000 cheering Guatemalans who gathered at the palace balcony to usher him into power.

Five days later, a Guatemalan military junta elected Armas to power. In August 1954, Armas suspended all civil liberties. Within a week of taking power, the Armas government arrested 4,000 people accused of participating in communist activity. Within four months, some 72,000 Guatemalans were registered as communists.

Armas proceeded to reverse the reforms put into place by Arbenz. Land appropriated in nationalization efforts was taken away from the peasants and returned to the United Fruit Company.

The assassination and the patsy

Within three years, the United States soured on Armas.

On July 26, 1957, Armas was assassinated at around 9 p.m. as he and his wife prepared to enter the dining room of the Presidential Palace.

Two bullets, one of which severed his aorta, struck him down, killing him instantly.

The assassin, identified as 20-year-old Romeo Vasquez Sanchez, was said to have committed suicide immediately, using the same rifle he had used to kill Armas.

The Guatemalan government identified Sanchez as a disgruntled soldier dismissed from the military in June 1955 because of his “communist ideology.”

Yet, somehow, Sanchez managed to rehabilitate himself sufficiently to have been a member of the Presidential Palace Guard when he committed the assassination.

Little noticed by the international press at the time, Armas was assassinated just four days after trying to close a casino owned by an associate of U.S. mob figure Johnny Rosselli. At the time, Rosselli and Carlos Marcello, the “godfather” from New Orleans, were expanding their presence in Guatemala.

The Guatemalan Army claimed to have a 40-page handwritten diary in which the assassin referred to “a diabolical plan to put an end to the existence of the man who holds power.”

The diary reportedly read: “I have had the opportunity to study Russian communism. The great nation that is Russia is fulfilling a most important mission in history … the Soviet Union is the first world power in progress and scientific research.”

The Guatemalan government LAO claimed to have evidence that linked Sanchez to Moscow. The evidence produced was a card from the Latin American service of Radio Moscow that read: “It is our pleasure, dear listener, to engage in correspondence with you. We are very thankful for your regular listening to our programs.”

Yet, no evidence was ever produced to prove Sanchez was ever a member of the Guatemalan Communist Party.

Parallels with Lee Harvey Oswald

There are many parallels between Sanchez and Lee Harvey Oswald.

Both were ex-military who left the service expressing distinct sympathies for communist Russia.

Assassination researchers Lamar Waldron and Thom Hartmann, in their 2005 book “Ultimate Sacrifice,” point out that Oswald was “a seemingly communist ex-Marine who was able to get a job at a sensitive firm – a Dallas company that helped prepare maps on U-2 spy plane photos – even after he returned from his ‘defection’ to the Soviet Union.”

Waldron and Hartman note that in comparison, the “Guatemala patsy” was described by the Guatemalan government as a communist fanatic who was expelled from the Guatemalan Army only six months before he assassinated Armas. Yet somehow Sanchez had still been allowed to join the Presidential Palace Guard.

How was that possible? Surely the Presidential Palace Guard would have been a sufficiently elite military unit to require a background check before they were hired. Waldron and Hartman further note both were ex-military who were described as communist nuts that killed a president with a rifle, conveniently leaving behind diaries rambling in communist propaganda.

There is no photographic proof that either Sanchez or Oswald were the assassins who pulled the trigger.

Neither had any witnesses who were in the room with them when they pulled the triggers.

Neither made any confession of their crimes.

Both were soon killed themselves – with Jack Ruby shooting Oswald and Sanchez shooting himself, obviating any need for a criminal investigation or trial.

Both the Armas assassination and the JFK assassination were considered open-and-shut cases in which responsible government and law enforcement authorities declared the guilt of Sanchez and Oswald was obvious, such that doubters could be dismissed as “conspiracy theorists.”

Both assassins were dead and buried a short time after the assassination, avoiding a prolonged time for grief or for unanswered questions to surface.

In neither case has any written record been produced of government interrogation. Oswald was questioned by Dallas Police, the FBI and/or Secret Service after his arrest. Sanchez was interrogated prior to being released from the military because of suspicions he was a communist.

In both cases, Sanchez and Oswald made perfect patsies because authorities openly proclaimed their guilt before trial, and their deaths made sure neither would have the opportunity to counter accusations.

The suicide of Sanchez closed the investigation of the Armas assassination, just as Jack Ruby murdering Oswald closed the investigation of the JFK assassination."
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Nov 12, 2013 - 10:31pm PT
What will be more fun is when the public gets access to the same tools (even better ones as the tech advances) and it gets used on wall street and public officials.

There will come a day when the public will be impossible to keep out.
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Nov 13, 2013 - 12:16am PT
Norton, the real bad guys knew not to use telephones 50 years ago. They knew to search people for wires. Do you think for a minute the real terrorist criminals of today are that stupid as to use email?

The only reason to capture and store this much information on everyone forever is material for blackmail at a later date if need be. You're all guilty of crimes you might not even know you've committed. Any of that nonsense can now be used against you should you ever show up on their radar.

The biggest threat to our country is not foreign terrorists. It's the cancer pulling the strings of the rotten puppets in Washington D.C. We've truly destroyed ourselves from within.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Nov 13, 2013 - 02:46am PT
What will be more fun is when the public gets access to the same tools (even better ones as the tech advances) and it gets used on wall street and public officials.

Just ask Patreaus or Weiner........
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Nov 13, 2013 - 07:55pm PT
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TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Nov 20, 2013 - 08:58pm PT
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/11/20/exclusive_inside_americas_plan_to_kill_online_privacy_rights_everywhere
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Dec 3, 2013 - 06:50am PT
An open letter from Carl Bernstein to Guardian editor Alan Rusbridger. Watergate scandal journalist's letter comes as Guardian editor prepares to appear before MPs over Edward Snowden leaks

"Dear Alan,

There is plenty of time – and there are abundant venues – to debate relevant questions about Mr Snowden's historical role, his legal fate, the morality of his actions, and the meaning of the information he has chosen to disclose.

But your appearance before the Commons today strikes me as something quite different in purpose and dangerously pernicious: an attempt by the highest UK authorities to shift the issue from government policies and excessive government secrecy in the United States and Great Britain to the conduct of the press – which has been quite admirable and responsible in the case of the Guardian, particularly, and the way it has handled information initially provided by Mr Snowden.

Indeed, generally speaking, the record of journalists, in Britain and the United States in handling genuine national security information since World War II, without causing harm to our democracies or giving up genuine secrets to real enemies, is far more responsible than the over-classification, disingenuousness, and (sometimes) outright lying by a series of governments, prime ministers and presidents when it comes to information that rightly ought to be known and debated in a free society. Especially in recent years.

You are being called to testify at a moment when governments in Washington and London seem intent on erecting the most serious (and self-serving) barriers against legitimate news reporting – especially of excessive government secrecy – we have seen in decades."


"What is new and most significant about the information originating with Mr Snowden and some of its specificity is how government surveillance has been conducted by intelligence agencies without the proper oversight – especially in the United States – by the legislative and judicial branches of government charged with such oversight, especially as the capabilities of information-gathering have become so pervasive and enveloping and with the potential to undermine the rights of all citizens if not carefully supervised. The "co-operation" of internet and telecommunications companies in some of these activities ought to be of particular concern to legislative bodies like the Commons and the US Congress.

As we have learned following the recent disclosures initiated by Mr Snowden, intelligence agencies – especially the NSA in the United States – have assiduously tried to avoid and get around such oversight, been deliberately unforthcoming and oftentimes disingenuous with even the highest government authorities that are supposed to supervise their activities and prevent abuse.

That is the subject of the rightful and necessary public debate that is now taking place in the US, the UK and elsewhere."

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/dec/03/open-letter-carl-bernstein-alan-rusbridger
Sparky

Trad climber
vagabond movin on
Dec 5, 2013 - 06:50pm PT
http://cryptome.org/2013/12/Full-Disclosure.pdf
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 9, 2013 - 09:06pm PT
froodish

Social climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 11, 2013 - 02:25am PT
“We cannot trust” Intel and Via’s chip-based crypto, FreeBSD developers say

http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/12/we-cannot-trust-intel-and-vias-chip-based-crypto-freebsd-developers-say/

Good news.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Dec 13, 2013 - 01:05pm PT
The NSA is spying on every American without any violent past. Still a man suffering from schizophrenia, who has a violent past and may even have commited murder in 2003, can stand as close as one can get to the American president for a long time. What's happening in America?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/12/mandela-memorial-interpreter-history-violent-behaviour
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Dec 16, 2013 - 12:06am PT
What will be more fun is when the public gets access to the same tools (even better ones as the tech advances) and it gets used on wall street and public officials.

There will come a day when the public will be impossible to keep out.

And they will know your actual name, you won't be able to hide behind a screen name, and where exactly you live, work, and what you make and spend it on.

I see why you look forward to that.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Dec 16, 2013 - 12:09am PT
Norton, the real bad guys knew not to use telephones 50 years ago. They knew to search people for wires. Do you think for a minute the real terrorist criminals of today are that stupid as to use email?

Then you have no knowledge of the mafia in this country. They certainly did.

You also don't know how the CIA tracked down UBL...partially by a pattern of NO usage of phones out of a residence.

As for stupid, ask the former head of the CIA about confidential email....

But in any case, none of this is reason to tell our enemies just what our capabilities are, and how to avoid them....
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Dec 16, 2013 - 07:07am PT
Washington (AFP) - US intelligence leaker Edward Snowden effectively stole the "keys to the kingdom" when he swiped more than 1.5 million top secret files, a senior National Security Agency official said in an interview aired Sunday.
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Rick Ledgett, who heads the NSA taskforce in charge of assessing the impact of Snowden's leaks, told CBS televisions's "60 Minutes" that the contractor possessed a "roadmap" of the US intelligence community's strengths and weaknesses.

NSA chief General Keith Alexander meanwhile said that suggestions the agency was routinely eavesdropping on the phone calls of Americans was false, insisting that less than 60 "US persons" were currently being targeted worldwide.

Ledgett said of particular concern was Snowden's theft of around 31,000 documents the NSA official described as an "exhaustive list of the requirements that have been levied against the National Security Agency."

"What that gives is, what topics we're interested in, where our gaps are," said Ledgett. "Additional information about US capabilities and US gaps is provided as part of that."

The information could potentially offer a rival nation a "roadmap of what we know, what we don't know, and give them -- implicitly -- a way to protect their information from the US intelligence community's view," the NSA official added.
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"It is the keys to the kingdom."

Ledgett said he would be open to the possibility of an amnesty for Snowden, who remains exiled in Russia, if he agreed to stop further leaks of classified information.

"My personal view is, yes, it's worth having a conversation about" a possible deal, said Ledgett.

Snowden has been charged with espionage by US authorities for divulging reams of secret files.

The former NSA contractor has insisted he spilled secrets to spark public debate and expose the NSA's far-reaching surveillance.
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But Alexander rejected the idea of any amnesty for Snowden.

"This is analogous to a hostage-taker taking 50 people hostage, shooting 10 and then say 'You give me full amnesty and I'll let the other 40 go,'" Alexander told "60 Minutes."

Alexander also challenged the view that the NSA was engaged in widespread surveillance of Americans.

"NSA can only target the communications of a US person with a probable cause finding under specific court order," he said, referring to the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.

"Today, we have less than 60 authorizations on specific persons to do that."
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 16, 2013 - 03:14pm PT
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/12/national-security-agency-phones-judge-101203.html
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 16, 2013 - 08:00pm PT
AT&T Verizon, etc.

Can not send a bunch of men in body armor with big guns to break into your house and kill you if you resist!

Government can!

That's why we have a Constitution with a Bill of Rights.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 16, 2013 - 08:36pm PT
They aren't government and you willingly entered into a contract with them.

I suggest you read it.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 16, 2013 - 08:42pm PT
Apples and oranges.

Did you fail 5th grade civics?

Or, do they even teach that anymore?

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