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dmalloy
Trad climber
eastside
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"IF LEB/LOIS KNEW him and CLIMBED...
She'd get it..."
Locker, you underestimate her....I'm sure she could find a way to not get it.
EDIT - not even 9:30 in the AM, and I am already right about one thing today.....
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Reilly
Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
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Locker,
I'm with ya bro but let it be until Wendell and Tia are ready.
Come on over and we'll watch some Jerry Springer. I've plenty of glue but you can bring yours.
Peace
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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The drivel gets even deeper...... It's so deep in fact that I will toss out my theory and no one will even notice.. What is that chance that this simple mistake was influenced by hippy lettuce? What is the chance that if Hippy lettuce was in fact a factor that it will be covered up?
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Mimi
climber
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dirt, I tried to state my position. Sorry you missed the earlier posts by me and others and believe I'm off the mark here. I want to know what happened as much as the next person but I can wait.
Reilly, that is a hilarious idea.
tradgeek, you're a bigger as#@&%e than I previously imagined. And a narc to boot. Total as#@&%e!
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TYeary
climber
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Is there some hidden dynamic going on here between the principles involved? Perhaps it is time to set personal agendas aside. Lay your egos down and do something constuctive.
Woody always struck me as a "no BS" kinda guy. I don't think this loitering around the "truth" honors Woody's memory or serves a higher purpose.
Locker has stated the lessons to be gleaned from this accident. It is time to put this to rest too.
RIP, Woody.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Mimi, that is a simple question that had to be asked. lockers bizzare behaviour as well as the fact that locker is a known stoner put that out as a possibility. The question was asked and answered. If you think that makes me an Ahole that is too bad. I feel that it would be pathetic to glorify weed use when climing and then cover up the risks involved.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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PS; The ONLY reason I suspected Hippy lettuce and the coverup angle was because of LOCKERS BIZZAR behavior....
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Eric McAuliffe
Trad climber
Alpine County, CA
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the woody check doesnt seem to disrespectfull to me, but all this hostility surrounding someones death is. Cant we all just give it a rest?
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Mimi
climber
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LOL! You guys are too much. Guilt by association is it? Locker wasn't even there that day.
Now you're assuming the role of trained investigators gathering all the facts...hot on the trail of reefer madness...OMG!
philo, I find a single cup of tea delightful; sometimes herbal, sometimes caffeinated.
Eric, you're absolutely right. This is needless banter which has been my contention all along. If it wasn't bad form, I'd really like to delete all my posts on this thread. Good intentions gone awry...
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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It's worth noting that people who KNOW THE STORY keep telling us to wait (and wait, and wait, and wait, ad infinitum).
Hypocrites!
It's also clear that there are people who had no connection to Woody (online or RL) - yet the info was leaked to THEM...
Ridiculous!
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 5, 2009 - 02:43pm PT
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"It's worth noting that people who KNOW THE STORY keep telling us to wait (and wait, and wait, and wait, ad infinitum)."
Most of those who know because they called up someone and ASKED to hear the details. They COULD NOT WAIT themselves.
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johngenx
climber
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If people are upset about their friend and partner dying, well, I get that. It's happened to me, and I wasn't myself after either. If those that were there don't want to discuss it, that's fine. Just say so.
This "it's already been written, you're just not looking in the right place" is juvenile and unproductive.
I have learned a great deal over the years by the mistakes and misjudgments made by others. It's not meant to be disrespectful in any way. It's just a wake up call for those of us still here. Were I to make a goof and end up dead, I would hope that others picked apart what I did and learned from it, if possible.
Todd Skinner's death had me thinking aloud "I don't buy a new harness because my wife might gripe about me spending $80 on climbing gear?" What a moron I was! I also evaluated my rapping back-ups and techniques, just to make sure I'm not setting myself up for some future failure.
Will Gadd and Lynn Hill both had non-fatal (not even a fall for Gadd) experiences with not tying in properly. My partners and I vowed to keep doing harness and knot checks, no matter how often we're out or how experienced we think we are.
We read avalanche reports and look at terrain, snow conditions, weather conditions, etc. Trying to figure out if we would have made the same decisions, or not, and why.
And on and on. It's a life long learning process and hopefully most can be learned without personally experiencing the screw up.
Now, if those close to Woody would rather not discuss what occurred, okay.
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GDavis
Trad climber
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its not worth the argument and vitriol, I can wait until the article comes out in climbing or rock and ice, if it even does.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Locker - it's knott so much about lessons as it is just finding out WTF happened...
-for Christ's sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
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Mimi
climber
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We're all bozos on this bus. Agreed!?
"Fighting's out of style; Fun's where the fear is!"
This thread has been a total waste of good Firesign Theater.
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Mimi's back
On your right, it's five thousand feet to the bottom of the Grand can-yooonnn.
Ah-Clem.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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All we need is Crowley back - and it's one big happy family again...
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Mimi
climber
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Ah-clown.
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Locker, Ron, do I really need the details? (i suspect I will procure them later in the week, when I am in Josh) Kind of too bad we can't just let it go, right now.
Not that I won't pay attention when I do hear the story...
Kid I got the clone, see you on the funway...
or
Squeeze the wheeze, many people like to.
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Mimi
climber
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Jaybro, TGT just posted part of the story. Looks like there are a couple remaining questions.
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