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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Mar 11, 2009 - 09:59pm PT
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Knock em dead!
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SammyLee2
Trad climber
Memphis, TN
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Mar 11, 2009 - 10:46pm PT
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Locker has a point, I never NOT noticed that I was climbing with beautiful women. It's funny though, their personality at the end of the day, made a HUGE difference regarding how I saw them.
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Anastasia
climber
Not here
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 12, 2009 - 12:43am PT
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I also can not prevent myself from noticing an attractive male but... That doesn't mean being aware of their attraction should go hand in hand with needing to bed them.
We are wired for sex and... We are also wired with a larger brain for higher function. We should be more balanced.
AF
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Pennsylenvy
Big Wall climber
Fry Canyon, UT
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Mar 12, 2009 - 12:55am PT
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147 posts for the complexity of women and 31 for men. I don't think that's proportionally accurate. It should be about 12,345,768,564,887,900,000,,000, posts for complexity of being a female and 2.5 for being male.. O.K. where's my ball again...
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Anastasia
climber
Not here
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 12, 2009 - 01:08am PT
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(Tossing it into the woods...) Fetch!
Anyway, interview went good, they asked me to come back for another interveiw with the department. :)
(Dancing around happy...)
I survived the first cut!
AF
P.S. I wonder when this ends which thread gets to be on top.
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Pennsylenvy
Big Wall climber
Fry Canyon, UT
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Mar 12, 2009 - 01:10am PT
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Mar 12, 2009 - 01:23am PT
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This thread is way better than that dood thread...
Let's take it up a notch shall we?
Guys:
Each of us let's now take our best crack at offering Anastasia a tour of our local climbing area.
You know, in whatever way best fits your intentions, natural inclinations, and chivalry or whatnot.
And then we'll see if she knows just where we are coming from?
You know, figure out if we can be trusted...
Gals:
Chime in with whatever sway you deem necessary to the cause...
I'll go first!
Hey there Ana, so you're in Boulder? Awesome!!! I got the crags dialed here... say... really liked that cleavage shot you put in the Tarbuster look-alike contest BTW. That was sweet. Made me feel like I'm the cat's meow and stuff. Anyhow, uh...so yeah, wanna get tangled up in some ropes??? We can meet at Vic's coffee shop, dip some sweet biscotti into our frothy lattes, then head out to the backside of Eldo for some tasty moderates, a little ledge languishing, ...'take in the glowing views coming off the Continental Divide. No pressure. I'm here to lay my good works 'n glory at your feet, God willing.
Just a suggestion...
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drljefe
climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
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Mar 12, 2009 - 01:27am PT
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That coming from a guy that had three chicks on mushrooms in a tent with him.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Mar 12, 2009 - 01:40am PT
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I'm generally into climbing, I don't necessarily care to have a male or female partner, a hard or easy day, I really want to climb.
If you're interested in going out and doing some routes, I'm game.
Partner relationships are complicated because climbing is such a mental activity. Some partners make you climber hard some times... other times the dynamic sucks... it's two people trying to do something difficult.
Now you generally do that thing on your own... but having the right partner can make a big difference.
I haven't noticed a difference between my male and female partners, at least as far as I'm concerned. I've climbed with Melissa, and with Crimpergirl, among those who've posted. Perhaps they would tell me how they thought I was... with both of them (and other women I've climbed with) I noticed that "attention thing" with respect to other climbing parties (mostly guys)... gals certainly get more attention than, say, a 55 year old fuzzyheaded, graying, bearded guy. That much is obvious. I can see how that could be really tiring to have to deal with that stuff as well as the climbing.
I can imagine that happens if you are particularly well known. Last weekend Jaybro and I had the marvelous good fortune of climbing with John Bachar in the gym for a few hours... while we mostly talked about our breaking bodies (old guys do that, not just jewish old guys, Ron), there was a strange feeling of being the center of attraction, but a reluctance of other gym climbers to interact. John is such an icon, I can imagine that that can get in the way of a climbing experience.
If I'm projecting, I'm going to pick the right partner to project with... but usually I'm open to almost any climbing day, from easy solo to way over my abilities top roping, and everything in between. I like climbing... and I will usually take the opportunity to do it with who ever is available.
Anastasia, if you're going to be in the Valley or Tuolumne, email me and let's see if we can arrange to get together and climb something.
and that goes for any of yous others out there, too!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
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Mar 12, 2009 - 01:51am PT
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Nice, Pennsyl! An excellent quantification of the situation.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Mar 12, 2009 - 02:01am PT
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oh, and the crying thing... it's just how some people react to emotional situations.
It seems that it is not unusual for women to cry, and for guys to get angry...
...I noticed this when I taught at UMass, especially the "Physics for Nurses" course. Women students who often became frustrated with the difficulty of the subject would cry in office hour meetings.
A student who became a good friend helped me learn that sometimes it was just how she coped with that stress, it wasn't anything more than that. So I just made sure to have a box of tissue paper on my desk, be patient but not patronizing, and let it pass so we could get on with the questions.
I think I've had women partners cry on climbs, it isn't any bigger deal than a guy partner loosing it in a rage...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
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Mar 12, 2009 - 02:03am PT
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"I've had women partners cry on climbs"
guys just go silent and sulk.....
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Mar 12, 2009 - 02:03am PT
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Nice Ed.
Talk about keepin' it real...
I'm calling when I'm in town Bro.
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Anastasia
climber
Not here
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 12, 2009 - 02:10am PT
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The same goes to both of you when you are in my corner of the woods! Ed,I will be calling! Tar, god willing that I do get out there for such a treat! By the way, getting such a fantastic wife means you must be the cat's meow! She wouldn't have settled for less!
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Mar 12, 2009 - 02:21am PT
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Aw shucks Ana thanks!
As long as I keep her thigh-deep in foot rubs, I'm golden.
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Pennsylenvy
Big Wall climber
Fry Canyon, UT
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Mar 12, 2009 - 02:36am PT
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Tarbuster,
I don't know if this is gonna work.............
'Guys:
Each of us let's now take our best crack at offering Anastasia a tour of our local climbing area.
You know, in whatever way best fits your intentions, natural inclinations, and chivalry or whatnot.'
AHhhhh
Some of those guys are .. locker ...
'For someone that appears to be BRIGHT...
I'd say your BULB is OUT...
Here it is in a fuking "NUTSHELL"...
Unless a dude goes the OTHER way...
you can pretty much BANK on it that ALL Men want to get on ALL Woman, that they find attractive...
BOTTOM LINE!!!...
Climbing or NOT!!!...
Saying "I'm JUST your friend" or what the fuk ever makes ZERO difference...
the DESIRE remains regardless...
"GUD" thing it does or NONE of us "WUD" be here...'
deer meet headlights........
On a serious note...Anastasia I don't want to down play the original sentiment of your OP. It can be an awkward situation for me a newly single person also. I'll send you a pic of me in a speedo if you'll go full monty.
signed ,
Russ Walling has trojan horsed my computer......helppppppppppppppppppppp
Jokes aside, Anastasia it sucks to not feel comfortable , but it sounds like the best way to solve this problem is for you to take control of it. It's not the worst thing to be admired for your beauty. Think of all those that aren't. Try to go climbing with a guy and put the rules out front first. Tell him your here to climb. And if you have to camp out, be independent, bring your own 'get up...rig ....bedroll...tent ......(just don't try to sleep out between two of those mylar sheets....) It does have to come from you. I can tell you that I've met up with some climbing gals whom have put it up front like that and it was great. Then you can have a good time.
Good luck (:)(:)(:)(:)
sorry for throwing you under the bus locker.
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KitKat
Trad climber
Lake Tahoe, CA
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Mar 12, 2009 - 02:57am PT
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Lookin for a strong partner with a big rack to go to Indian Creek. Must have gas money. NSA...
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Pennsylenvy
Big Wall climber
Fry Canyon, UT
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Mar 12, 2009 - 03:03am PT
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Above or below the waist?
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KitKat
Trad climber
Lake Tahoe, CA
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Mar 12, 2009 - 03:09am PT
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I would assume at the Creek your gear would hang on your harness, below your waist....
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KitKat
Trad climber
Lake Tahoe, CA
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Mar 12, 2009 - 03:18am PT
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Seriously, Anastasia, i understand your dilemma... because I am looking to go to Indian Creek. None of my main parters want to go... So I am in a bit of your dilemma. I want to go CLIMBING... this is a 2-3 week road trip. I'm not out to be someone's girlfriend- I just wanna go climbing! How does a woman do this? I'm driving my van from Tahoe... need a partner and gas money...
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