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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Sep 16, 2008 - 02:54pm PT
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I would so love to say something here; but it would just stir up the hornets nest, so I will show discretion which is the better part of valor and let it go.
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Crimpergirl
Social climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Sep 16, 2008 - 02:57pm PT
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Lynne: I was thinking the same thing...
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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Sep 16, 2008 - 03:06pm PT
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yea,
sometimes it's better to just put your two cents back in your pocket.
edit.
oops. possible mis-read there... im referring back to lynne and crimpgirl's sentiments.
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Ouch!
climber
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Sep 16, 2008 - 03:11pm PT
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There ain't no stalking here. Just plain trolling. Some of it not very sophisticated but it works, up to a point. HK needs to take some trolling lessons from Werner.
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nita
climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
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Sep 16, 2008 - 03:12pm PT
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t*r, My best advise.. ignore them and come to the facelift.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Sep 16, 2008 - 03:25pm PT
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Norweigan, glad I'm not on the sharp end today, hehe. "hornets nest, discretion....valor...
your "two cents" remark was funny !
I second Nita's remark !
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Sep 16, 2008 - 03:33pm PT
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Matt wrote:
i feel like i am in super slo-mo, wanting this to just go away but also waiting to see
the HK summary.... (involuntary shuder, ewwww.....)
Dirtbag wrote:
I still think this is one that folks should just let go.
OK - I'm almost done compiling and composing the Mother of All SuperTopo Summaries ™ ™ ™ ™.
You will KNOTT be disappointed!
Then, and ONLY THEN will it be put to rest.
Peace to All.
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Ouch!
climber
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Sep 16, 2008 - 03:40pm PT
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This cannot be considered stalking. Stalking takes place during the hunt.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Sep 16, 2008 - 03:47pm PT
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toulomne*rainbow / Pour Some Sugar on Me / Standing Strong / t*r (ect) wrote:
if someone is going thru posts to look for evidence to back up an idea they have, they're going to justify it no matter what, whether their interpretations are correct or not.
There's nothing to "interpret". Our posts will be presented in real-time, in FULL CONTEXT, going back to Jan 1 2008.
Any questions?
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Sep 16, 2008 - 03:51pm PT
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Uhh, PTPP took off to go climbing––AWAY FROM THE INTERNET––and said as much.
Please try to pay attention.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Sep 16, 2008 - 04:04pm PT
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toulomne*rainbow / Pour Some Sugar on Me / Standing Strong / t*r (ect) wrote:
i will say i've decided against going to the facelift. it's one thing when people
don't like your online posts, but the level of toxicity from so many people is
amazing, and i don't think it's fair.
don't feel like spending my time and money going into a situation where i know
that people harbor super negative preconceptions about me. that's lame.
Oh, boo-hoo.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, this place is about fun and entertainment.
NOTHING should be taken too seriously (I'm an exception because of my OCD).
If that's really the way you feel, and you're not just being a drama queen, then you
should seriously consider stepping away from the computer...
I think you should go to Facelift - you will have a lot of fun, most especially knowing
that I (the creepy older-man stalker™ ™ ™ ™ himself) will KNOTT be there...
Peace to all.
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Jim E
climber
Mountain Road
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Sep 16, 2008 - 04:09pm PT
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"Lois, I have great respect for you and consider you a positive and moderating influence on ST forum."
I just threw up in my mouth.
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Sep 16, 2008 - 06:37pm PT
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t*r's not coming to Facelift?
I guess that means Ken will have to cancel the Saturday Nite Smackdown!
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Sep 16, 2008 - 07:11pm PT
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Maybe I'm old school, not in the climbing sense (though I like that approach) but in how I try to treat people. I just can't see picking on a young lady. No matter how much she might seamingly deserve it based on some of the things she has said.
If anyone should understand off the wall personalities and weirdness it should be climbers. What I've generally noted about climbers, real climbers pre sport, pre internet, pre spray, is that no matter what your mental state or physical ability there was a level of acceptance. Certainly some groups were, and are, terratorial, but by and large if I journeyed to a cliff odds were good I'd be swapping tr's and leads with complete strangers.
Does this young lady have some issues, it sure seams like it. Does she spout off some stuff that makes us shake our heads, ah yup.
But, then again how many of us have our own issues? How many spout off in ways that have many of us shaking our heads?
If the old crusty hard men have the right to spout off, you have to extend the same right to those just getting into the sport. The upside of an open forum is you can spout off at will. The downside is everyone else can as well.
If tr/ss needs to take a break from posting emotional outbursts, and it might do her well to do so, then her legions of protesters would do well to take a stong dose of STFU. You guys don't come across as the saviours of SuperTopo, you come across as azzes that have as many if not more issues you should be tending to.
Another creapy old man, who has a slightly different view.
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Ouch!
climber
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Sep 16, 2008 - 07:19pm PT
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This thread is scary. I think it might be possible to catch a mental disease from it.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Sep 16, 2008 - 07:46pm PT
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I have never seen t*r write anything that is deserving of this bullsh#t. While I have often scratched my head at some of the things she has written, most of those things have simply seemed - sorry t*r - flakey. Some women use that as a manner of interacting, especially amongst men, and though it is way far from my style, it certainly doesn't seem anything I would consider dangerous enough to be lambasted as has been done with this thread.
Christ, fattie and his constant barrage of "I could be running the country" bullshit has a MUCH higher annoyance factor in my mind.
I DID notice that she made some remarks in the last few weeks that seemed strangely hostile and coming from out of the blue. But it is an extremely small fraction of her postings.
I cannot imagine that i will have an "ohhhh, I see" moment when HK unveils his "This is serious(although he feels nothing on this forum should be taken seriously)" list. I will withold making real judgement until seeing that, but at this point I am feeling that HK, and some others who have been on this thread, are pretty uncool.
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Sep 16, 2008 - 08:02pm PT
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200 posts for this stoopid thread?
Boy, there sure are a lot of knucklheads here with too much free time on there hands.
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Flashlight
climber
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Sep 16, 2008 - 08:07pm PT
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t*r, "level of toxicity"?
You can't hold a candle to the toxicity that has been thrown my way, some of it by you.
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Sep 16, 2008 - 08:09pm PT
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locker,
I am on the job, working, doing research, yeah, that's the ticket.
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Anastasia
climber
Not there
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Sep 16, 2008 - 08:12pm PT
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200 post later....
Laughing!
I'll hand it to t*r for being able to keep an audience!
Bravo darling! Mae West when confronted with her critics said it best. "I would rather be controversial than boring."
AF
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