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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Sep 18, 2018 - 11:39am PT
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Did somebody say “hand-paw”?
I went to Walmart yesterday. Dayum but there wuz some big game there!
A dood had to watch his step!
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Sep 18, 2018 - 12:15pm PT
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JLP,
my neighbor shot a brown bear at 5m!
Plenty of danger there.
Oh, and did I mention he used a bow and arrow?
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PinkTaco
Mountain climber
Utah
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Sep 18, 2018 - 02:21pm PT
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Should have known better than to use the word "thought" on this thread.
Looks to be a lot of prion disease on this thread. Not surprising since many of the Utah herds are infected.
Awe and no healthcare for you commies, the irony!
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PinkTaco
Mountain climber
Utah
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Sep 18, 2018 - 02:27pm PT
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HAYDUKE LIVES !!!
HAYDUKE LIVES !!!
HAYDUKE LIVES !!!
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Bale
Mountain climber
UT
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Sep 18, 2018 - 05:28pm PT
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@pink taco, haha, I was thinking the same thing, only Hayduke never got caught.
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Krease
Gym climber
the inferno
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Sep 18, 2018 - 09:14pm PT
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JLP, as a drumpf-hating, pro-choice, pro-gay, anti-war bow hunter I find your hypocrisy disgusting. Please, go consume more factory-farmed animals that are tortured their entire lives before being ushered up a chute to have a bolt-gun driven into their skulls so you can eat your guilt-free cheeseburger without getting your hands dirty.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Sep 19, 2018 - 09:20am PT
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^^^^ +10!
Ducks Unlimited has probably done more for wildlife habitat conservation than the Sierra Club.
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Sep 19, 2018 - 09:31am PT
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100% of the meat you eat is hunted? How did you get the tags - vegetarian most of the year - freak from the Alaskan bush - very alone - lying - or just as much a hypocrite?
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Sep 19, 2018 - 09:40am PT
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Pro-Gay?
Who even sez that stuff any more?
If you are not pro-gay, does that mean you are anti-gay?
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Q- Ball
Mountain climber
but to scared to climb them anymore
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Sep 19, 2018 - 09:51am PT
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JLP,
Getting tags ain't hard. I just go to the gas station and buy them. My freezer is full and happy to share some meat with you. Elk, hog, deer, grouse. Let me know what you prefer. Sorry no pronghorn I let my brother keep it.
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Sep 19, 2018 - 10:06am PT
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Sounds like time and energy.
Instead I'll have someone prepare it for me, pay them, eat, then go do something I find more important or interesting - than behaving like a prehistoric savage!
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Sep 19, 2018 - 10:10am PT
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I'll take "free range" venison over hormone laced cow, any day.
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Krease
Gym climber
the inferno
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Sep 19, 2018 - 08:49pm PT
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I purchase half a steer every year from a local farmer. No factory farmed beef. Do I kill him? No, but I know he wasn't raised in a high density feed lot and I pick the one I want while supporting a local farmer. Excellent meat, better and,pound for pound,cheaper than that sh#t in the grocery store. Grow my own vegetables, so no industrial farming in as much as possible. Eggs purchased the same way.
This year, a half a hog when the time presents itself. I like to know where my food comes from
as opposed to some hormone fattened cow that eats a diet of ground up cow as is what happens on factory "farms". And yep, a good Bambi and wild turkey with a recurve bow when the time is right. I try like hell to avoid the mass produced meats, but if you're a carnivore it's well nigh impossible. Where you're a hypocrite, jlp, is deriding a picture of a young man learning where his food comes from,outside of a grocery store, and labeling hunting " disgusting" while still cramming your mouth full of meat.
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PinkTaco
Mountain climber
Utah
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Sep 20, 2018 - 07:54am PT
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Krease,
I think for the most part in the climbing community you are preachin to the choir. A much larger percentage of climbers and athletes are more inclined to know and actually care where their food comes from than the general non-athletic type. So I think it is fair to say that we are all in agreement that kumbaya meat is better than that store bought crap.
The issue is trash on public lands.
If a contractor dumps a load of jack hammered concrete at the trailhead it is trash on our public lands.
That fridge, or P.O.S. Lada that your neighbor left on the BLM road and filled full of lead is trash on our public lands.
If a dog owner leaves a turd bag on the side of the trail, even just for 5 minutes, long enough for it to be unattended and seen by another public land user, it is trash on our public lands.
If a bow hunter leaves a camera on a tree, it is trash on our public lands. So all arguments about sport, or kumbaya meat, or rights, and all those excuses result in the same fact, it is just more trash on our public lands.
.. and yes, bolting is trash on public lands too.
No problem here with hunters, in fact I think bow hunters are some of the coolest folks I meet out there. There are some real ones left too.
I have a problem with trash on our public lands.
Amen
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Sep 20, 2018 - 08:18am PT
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I'm not anti hunting, its fun for many folks, a tradition among alot of outdoor enthusiasts, who buy gear.
All courtesy of zbrown
Each of a compound bow's two cams features two tracks: an inner track which connects to the opposite limb or opposite cam through cables, and an outer track through which the bowstring runs. As the bow is drawn, the ratio of bowstring pay-out and cable take-up relative to limb-weight and leverage of the cams changes.
The only thing Pre-historic, is the suspension of cognitive thinking
& the belief that there is, in the romance of man against . . . . ?
There is no limit to the technology that gets used -
Don't forget the red dot laser sighting, low ambient vision assistance,
Scent lock clothing,
and use of attractants like feeding stations,
salt licks, and bottled pheromone-rich deer urine.
It's a fair game . .,
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Q- Ball
Mountain climber
but to scared to climb them anymore
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Sep 20, 2018 - 09:08am PT
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I have taken down a dozen tree stands on my property, and several trail cameras. If someone that I catch on my land is nice to me I generally tell them to simply call and ask permission. Some good friends of mine were folks that were poaching on my farm when we first met.
Putting nails in trees is a good way to get me hurt when logging. I have zero tolerance for that. I had one guy dump a bunch of trash. I went through it, found his mail. The judge said,"mr. @$)& if you didn't dump this than why is your sh$t there." I provided him with trash bags and only requested he clean it up. He did.
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Q- Ball
Mountain climber
but to scared to climb them anymore
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Sep 20, 2018 - 09:24am PT
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JLP
"Sounds like time and energy.
Instead I'll have someone prepare it for me, pay them, eat, then go do something I find more important or interesting - than behaving like a prehistoric savage!"
It is all butchered and vacuumed sealed, you don't need to pay me. Does that make it better? And I don't think the rifle I use is very prehistoric :).
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Sep 20, 2018 - 09:59am PT
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I'm not into hunting because I think there's more fun things to do with my time and I'd rather challenge myself or compete against my fellow man. But I totally get it. Hunting and climbing are prehistoric, hell pre-speech activities for humans. I can see the challenge and comradarie of the hunt, the feeling of providing for yourself, etc.
The problem is the lack of respect from some hunters. Unfortunately I know it attracts some power hungry people who enjoy killing defenseless animals. Some people who break the rules. Who don't target the species that need control of their numbers. Who want to kill big animals to try to make themselves feel powerful (a lot of big game hunters). I think it's the minority but they stick out like a sore thumb.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Sep 20, 2018 - 01:43pm PT
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If he thought it was "trash" why did he keep it?
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Sep 20, 2018 - 01:56pm PT
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If he thought it was "trash" why did he keep it?
cuz one man's treasure is another man's trash? More likely he was saving it for the recycler.
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