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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Cali - #10 in education! Oops, that's 10th from the bottom.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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I wonder what the school rankings are based on.... Test scores? I wonder what those scores would be when excluding students for whom English is a second language....
I know my kids (in a wealthy school district) are doing stuff a few years ahead of what I did at that grade. But I went to small rural schools with few college bound kids, and I made it up by independent study and eventually dropping out of high school to finish 12th grade at a community college before going to university.
If you want high quality public education, suck it up and pay for that ridiculously expensive house surrounded by other parents who fret over average test scores for school rankings. Your house investment is likely to hold asset value more during the down times, and likely to appreciate more quickly in the good times. There will be fewer bullies, fewer kids in the class with untreated ADD (i.e. the "bad" kids are drugged into submission) so the teachers can focus more on teaching, and less or no social stigma of being a smart kid surrounded by dumb kids that aren't college bound. Those are my first-hand anecdotal observations from my attendance and my kids' attendance, statistically insignificant.
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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My 'Poor business plans' have bought us three homes and supported a family of 6 comfortably over the last decade.
You?
Not on 40k/yr you didn't.
One of my companies netted under $40k last year
Regardless, Those that do business in this state have much greater restrictions, regulations and legislative liabilities including EDD & Payroll than any other state in the union.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Naw, bluering is a Californian. He pays his taxes, has a job and a family to support. He's just giving us his POV whilst trolling us a bit. He doesn't need to live in a red state to be in the red state; just come out da Silicon Valley, out here in the redlands... its like another country or something, but still California's, Gold. True that, DMT. I'm reminded of that every time I head through Bakersfield, Porterville, Springville (which had a Confederate flag hanging on the front of a building on Main Street) on my way up to the Upper Tule/Golden Trout. Beautiful state with all kinds of people in it. So far so good.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 9, 2017 - 10:47am PT
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I think we can ask both questions... and answer them somewhat rationally...
you assume you know what my answer is, and you aren't interested in the reasons why I would give those answers.
your rant has no argument, it is a rant against a false boogie-man you've constructed (or have had constructed for you), an assertion that we "need" more water storage...
if you can peel back one layer and understand where the water is going, how it is used, we can begin to answer that question.
I understand your argument, AgriBiz uses a lot of water. How is that a problem though?
California is a big State with a diverse economy. Do we want to kill some of the fertile land in the country? Drive the farmers into nowhere?
I agree they should not be subsidized, but give them the water they need. Water has become political in this State, why? It's limited!
Increase storage. It does not harm the environment to do that. It enhances it!
Look at Edison Lake, and Courtright Resevoir. PG&E made Power Dome possible.
Take the handcuffs off the Army Corps of Engineers, and worlds can be built! (you know what I mean...)
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Regardless, Those that do business in this state have much greater restrictions, regulations and legislative liabilities including EDD & Payroll than any other state in the union.
Also known as not being able to screw over employees and customers.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Increase storage. It does not harm the environment to do that. It enhances it!
This sh#t just keeps getting funnier...
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Also known as not being able to screw over employees and customers.
For sure, Gary.
DMT
Spoken like true victims.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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We need more drive-thru sequoias too...
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c wilmot
climber
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More dams would mean more water retention during wet periods. It's not a bad idea per se. It's why there has been talk of raising the Shasta lake dam for years.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Cali - #10 in education! Oops, that's 10th from the bottom.
That is much the parents fault as it is the state's.
If a kid doesn't want to learn. . . . if the parents don't emphasize the need for education, then there is no incentive to learn.
One of my pet peeves is that many kids see sports as the way to economic salvation, and as long as teams are winning, schools do nothing to curtail this attitude.
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WBraun
climber
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Locker -- "I think things are fine and life is great..."
That's until they take your glue away from you.
Jade Glue is coming this summer, stay away from the tunnels under Wall Mart ......
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Do we want to kill some of the fertile land in the country? Drive the farmers into nowhere?
I agree they should not be subsidized, but give them the water they need. Water has become political in this State, why? It's limited!
Increase storage. It does not harm the environment to do that. It enhances it! Um, no.
First Big Ag does more than use water, it wastes it. There's a difference. Does the whole state need to sacrifice so China can have more almonds and hay? Farmers are just business people, not do gooders. Also, as has been said previously, water has always been political, since the start of human civilization really.
Above ground storage is bad economics. Costly to build, and evaporization increases salinity. A hundred years ago William Mulholland pushed for below ground storage and got nowhere.
Finally, it is TERRIBLE for the environment, unless you believe that flooding it under hundreds of feet of water is a good thing?
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Last I checked there are still millions of acres of land in the USA that get enough water.
Like the 9Th ward in LA where pumps run 24x7 to keep the ocean out..... why!?.... just why?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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That is much the parents fault as it is the state's
Well, that's who is in California, isn't it? And the measuring metrics,
while far from perfect, are the same for everybody.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 9, 2017 - 01:10pm PT
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Why so many complain about how bad it supposedly is, is beyond me...
I think things are fine and life is great...
A damn fine point!
But people have an insatiable urge to perfect things. I do.
The American spirit is driving the boundaries though, pushing the boundaries. Not sitting idle.
Maybe we should sit idly for a while? I'm not opposed to that notion. Not really.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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I have a small business in California (Burbank) that does very well. Plenty of dough after taxes. Most of which goes to the Federal Governement.
Sales tax is high in most counties but sales tax is almost everywhere so don't get me started.
The business environment of SoCal/LA is excellent with low unemployment (bad for employers) real estate soaring and so much money everywhere people don't know what to do with it.
I worked most of my career in Burbank.
Today, as I was driving down my street in Studio City, I noticed that there are FIVE houses in the process of being torn down and rebuilt, in the "mini-mansion" mold. Just on ONE block! It tells me what the economic climate is, right now.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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I agree they should not be subsidized, but give them the water they need.
So which is it?
No subsidy, but GIVE IT AWAY, taxing ME and YOU to do that???
You see why this can be so irrational?
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PSP also PP
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Flooding the fields is the typical way to water crops it is cheap and very wasteful. One reason Farmers won't switch to drip irrigation is because there is no financial incentive. There have started to be grant money available to use drip irrigation.
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