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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
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Dec 17, 2006 - 08:28pm PT
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I spent all afternoon watching it on pain killers for my severe back pain. What a sad day and ending.
If I was not depressed I am now.
JDF
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inhisfootsteps
Sport climber
the
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Dec 17, 2006 - 10:28pm PT
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Condolences to the one climbers friends and family
There is still hope for the other two!
Keep fighting!!
Thoughts are with everyone-
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 17, 2006 - 11:45pm PT
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Oh, they know who he is. They're just saying that.
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gunsmoke
Trad climber
Clackamas, Oregon
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Dec 18, 2006 - 12:05am PT
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Reports are that families involved have been notified. My take is that rescuers didn't have the right to make a legal declaration of who it is and until such a finding is made tomorrow, the identity won't be released. Does that jive with your experience Werner?
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 18, 2006 - 12:07am PT
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gunsmoke
Yes, that's how it's done.
Riley, we stay out of that end of the job. They have a special person set up for that called Family liaison officer.
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mthoodrescuehope
Social climber
nyc,ny
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Dec 18, 2006 - 02:17am PT
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so much death.
:: sighs ::
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Ron Olsen
Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
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Dec 18, 2006 - 02:33am PT
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From The New York Times:
"Although the authorities would not name the climber whose body was found, Ben James, a brother of Kelly James, who traveled to Oregon on Friday from his home in Louisiana, said in an interview late Sunday that officials had told his family that Kelly James was the deceased climber."
R.I.P.
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Staples10
climber
Jeffrey City, WY
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Dec 18, 2006 - 10:48am PT
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I hope for the best for the two remaining climbers. If the media reports are accurate, I understand that their planned escape route was down the Cooper Spur? Can someone confirm this?
I've climbed Hood multiple times, and I can't figure out why experienced climbers would choose it to descend (if conditions were bad).
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Hangerlessbolt
Trad climber
Portland, OR
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Dec 18, 2006 - 11:32am PT
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Broke my heart to hear the news
My most sincere condolences to the James family.
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unimog
climber
windy corner in the west
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Dec 18, 2006 - 11:34am PT
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go to the bbc news all the names are listed
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JLP
Social climber
Fargo, MN
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Dec 18, 2006 - 11:42am PT
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I wasn't aware of a stove issue.
My only real sentiment was that it's tough being a flatlander.
Texas and NY - these guys didn't appear to make any grievously bad mistakes, but certainly a chain of smaller ones took place. Why was the guy left up top? Exhaustion? Onset of hypothermia and partners ditched due to oncoming storm? Only guesses, but something went wrong before things went wrong. On a scale of 1-10 for experience with perhaps a Doug Scott at the top, these guys were probably a 2 or 3, and got on a rather tough route. Nothing wrong with that, and it's the freedom we all love, but it appears there were consequences.
JLP
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 18, 2006 - 12:14pm PT
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These are sad circumstances and I don't really want to digress, but want to remind the readers that Charlie and Chris are still missing in Tibet as well.
Unlike on Mt. Hood where the taxpayers send large military aircraft, we are trying to get small private search aircraft up today and could use $ wired to the search fund.
No money, no search.
(details in the Charlie Fowler thread)
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golsen
Social climber
kennewick, wa
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Dec 18, 2006 - 12:52pm PT
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majid, I'd say that guy is selling rescue beacons.
Weather in the cascades is holding. Good luck to the SAR teams.
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Tahoe climber
Trad climber
a dark-green forester out west
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Dec 18, 2006 - 01:03pm PT
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JLP -
Though you're likely accurate in that small mistakes were likely made - judgement in tackling a major objective with a storm inbound probably the largest - still, there are a couple of things worth remembering here:
1) The guy left behind was likely injured and unable to descend - all of the coverage so far suggests that the three were close, and the two that left went for help.
2) Sometimes, even with "good" judgement and skills, we get caught in an un-survivable situation, and maybe that's what happened here.
RIP -
-Aaron
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Lambone
Ice climber
Ashland, Or
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Dec 18, 2006 - 01:07pm PT
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It's likely the two climbers remaining to be found have the stove. But also likely that they have been out of fuel for a week.
rescuers believe they desceneded somewhere between the North Face gullies and the East side of the mountain, based on where they found the snowcave, equipment and anchor.
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JLP
Social climber
Fargo, MN
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Dec 18, 2006 - 01:10pm PT
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"The guy left behind was likely injured and unable to descend"
I think we all gathered that.
"with "good" judgement and skills, we get caught in an un-survivable situation"
Perhaps with "better" judgement and skills, they would have been back at the bar for beers a day or two after departing, thereby sparing the incredible expense, danger and grief for others.
Consensus indicates the bad weather was not in the forcast before they left.
JLP
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Lambone
Ice climber
Ashland, Or
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Dec 18, 2006 - 01:21pm PT
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guys, there is more to the story then we know.
they were capable climbers, with a good plan and equiped accordingly. They climbed one of the more difficult routes on Hood.
Something delayed them near the summit. they were forced to spend an unplanned bivi, and things deteriorated from there.
not necesarily as a result of "bad judgement"
climbing is dangerous, sh#t happens.
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