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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 8, 2016 - 03:38pm PT
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the Fet,
very good post.
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Bullwinkle
Boulder climber
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Here’s a simple truth: If we banned all guns tomorrow, the nation would be almost instantly transformed, exclusively for the better.
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Here’s a simple truth: If we banned all guns tomorrow, the nation would be almost instantly transformed, exclusively for the better.
A simple truth for a simpleton.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Here’s a simple truth: If we banned all guns tomorrow, the nation would be almost instantly transformed, exclusively for the better.
Your logic is either stupid, or flawed.
Getting rid of all guns is impossible. Does the Military and Police keep their weapons to defend us? Getting rid of all guns is stupid.
If the cops/military keep their weapons and we don't, aren't the same amount of "black youths" going to be killed by "racist cops"? This is flawed logic.
Knee-jerk liberal pipe-dreams are never, ever the answer.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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The simple truth is that there would be a very large and bloody insurgency if it were even attempted.
Edit for blue: conservative pipe dream 2nd amendment orgasm pose down safari fantasies are never the answer either.
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dirtbag
climber
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Can we just mourn for a day?
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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All police are corrupt, they bring this on themselves
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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The simple truth is that there would be a very large and bloody insurgency if it were even attempted.
And there should be! The 2A was there to keep that from happening.
It's a crime/anger problem, not the weapon used to finish the anger. Machetes and knifes have been used just as effectively. Most people in Dhaka were slashed to death, not shot. Saving ammo I think. But I digress...
Anger is being stoked by some very bad people, for personal reasons. They're stoking the flames of hate in young black males.
Whitey hates you, police hate blacks, police are racist.
But the statistics belie what is spouted by the MSM and thought by everybody. Nobody uses common sense, or looks at trends and facts.
Instead, let's knee-jerk to white cops hate black youths. F*#king sucks, and is not true!!!
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dirtbag
climber
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Ok Jody. In other words, no.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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The President commissioned the Centers for Disease Control to do a report on gun use in America. Several interesting things came out of it.
1. The Institute of Medicine and the National Research Council released the results of their research through the CDC last month. Researchers compiled data from previous studies in order to guide future research on gun violence, noting that “almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year.”
2. “Studies that directly assessed the effect of actual defensive uses of guns (i.e., incidents in which a gun was ‘used’ by the crime victim in the sense of attacking or threatening an offender) have found consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared with victims who used other self-protective strategies,”
The huge spread in estimates is because the greater number of self defense incidents with guns never involve the weapon actually being fired. These, and many other incidents are largely unreported. But even the low number is significantly greater than the number of people killed by guns annually.
cdc-study-use-firearms-self-defense-important-crime-deterrent
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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No, call the ACLU first, they'll protect your precious rights.
Then call the cops, that way the ACLU is there first. So the cops don't hurt you or something.
Do us that favor. Call the ACLU first....maybe they'll get there in time for the autopsy.
EDIT: Kris, I am suspicious of CDC numbers of late because everything is partisan it seems now. I would run them against FBI stats on the same issue. The FBI has tons of stats.
Despite current affairs, I still consider the FBI pretty non-partisan. BUt some may say they have a pro-LEO bias.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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And you are an idiot. Hopefully you will need their help some day and they won't get there in time.
Blind faith in a horribly corrupt institution doesn't make you genius, either.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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But maybe we can learn?
Maybe. Seems very counter-intuitive but crime stats state otherwise. More guns with civilians! Hopefully with a "permit" or some other stupid European "paper" to be displayed, they can be regulated properly.
More guns.
People say lowering taxes on people would create less GDP. It grew. When people who are responsible, and understand their rights and obligations to society, are left to wield more power themselves, they do it conservatively and wisely.
Elitist European gov'ts DO NOT LIKE THIS INDEPENDENCE. Neither do American elitists.
We should be done with them all through our will to vote for personal independence and personal freedom.
That's what it's all about. The blacks are feeling it now, but this is not a racial problem.
Good thing we have an idiotic "black" president now, Things'll be great!
EDIT: Wanna stop an idiot BLM protestor in their tracks? Explain that Martin Luther King was a republican. The party of liberation!.
MLK was the man! He knew people should be judged by their actions, not their skin color.
I think MLK would be disappointed by the Black Lives Matter bullsh#t. He would condemn as inherently RACIST!!!!
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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That's cool - we all think stuff. A paragon of racial virtue hypothetically agrees with your racial perspective? Sure, he worships me too in my own mind. Humans ...
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Majid_S
Mountain climber
Karkoekstan
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All cops in Bay area PDs were paired up today on high alert till monday
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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That's cool - we all think stuff. A paragon of racial virtue hypothetically agrees with your racial perspective? Sure, he worships me too in my own mind. Humans ...
Nobody f*#king knows what you're talking about! What does that even mean? Do you speak this way to make yourself seem superior?
I'm sure you're aware that we're quite frank here. So be frank.
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Bluering
Black Lives Matter bullshit
Talk about bullsh#t.
You are talking out your f ucking a$$.
Not gonna check back into this thread so talk as much shˇt as you want-
just wanted to drive by and say STFU + GFYS.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Go ahead and run away then. Aren't you part of the problem if YOU RUN AWAY FROM THE DISCUSSION?
Wasn't this the whole point of BLM? A "discussion". Or is it only one-sided?
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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That's not true and saying it does no good...
You're correct sorry. Let me correct my statement:
All (and I do mean all) police who are alive and human beings are corrupt.
Better?
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