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John M
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Jun 13, 2016 - 09:59am PT
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nope.. I believe that you are a coward. You hide and insult people with no real consequences. Anyone who wants to can find me. Thats one of the reasons that I don't respect you.
and what happened to you having to leave?
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Jun 13, 2016 - 10:00am PT
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ad ideam
I believe that you are a coward. -John M
Boy that's toning it down, eh Nita?
For internet anonymity of all things.
Anytime you want to meet me as a climber on the East side, Keeler or Third Pillar or Star Trekkin, for eg, you let me know and we'll sort it out.
As climbers.
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John M
climber
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Jun 13, 2016 - 10:01am PT
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apogee, you also haven't hidden who you are. People here know you. So far, the only person vouching for HFCS is norton. and this has gone on for years. He insults people then hides.
I have no problem with people using nicknames until they start abusing the right.
Edit: you call this dialing it back? a Martian? or english posting marmot? or cyberbot? lol
as though I am a moron. You asked. I answered.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 13, 2016 - 10:02am PT
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Does Daddy need to put you two into time out. What a bunch of pansies. Good grief.
Excellent post. Resolving differences can't hold a candle to the constant hate-spew that dominate these threads.
Moving on....
It's time to change the laws for AR-15s and similar weapons. Require registration, with a renewal every two years. Complete background checks with every registration/renewal. Increase the thoroughness of background checks. Lower the standard for flagging applicants. If someone has been a person of interest, dig a little deeper. Anyone charged with felony should scrutinized further.
It's time for change.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Jun 13, 2016 - 10:03am PT
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vouching for HFCS
lol
As an anonymous bot, do you hear me calling fellow ST members cowards, etc?
I think most here would agree that I have not been one to abuse my internet anonymity.
Face it, JM. You just don't like the facts that I have a science-based worldview (for lack of a better word) and encourage others to move past old time iron-age ones (which includes Abrahamic worldviews esp insofar as they are taken literally). Time to grow up as a nation and species.
He insults people then hides. -john m
These are more lies.
I'm beginning to think you're just nuts...
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Jun 13, 2016 - 10:04am PT
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This terrible tragedy was committed by a sick man.
What made the man sick is up to debate.
What is the solution to these sort of horrible deeds?
That too is up for debate.
I offer my sincere condolences to the victims of this act of terror, their family's, many friends and our nation.
Peace to all.
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Norton
Social climber
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Jun 13, 2016 - 10:06am PT
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Norton...in the years that he has been on the forum, you are the first person to vouch for him.
Well I suppose this may be the first time anyone has called for a vouch...
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Jun 13, 2016 - 10:10am PT
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You know, Norton, there's vouch in the first degree, vouch in the second degree and vouch in the third.
If I was vouched in the first, then he'd want me vouched in the second. There would be no end to it.
Eventually I'd have to show my birth certificate.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Jun 13, 2016 - 10:12am PT
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t's time to change the laws for AR-15s and similar weapons. Require registration, with a renewal every two years. Complete background checks with every registration/renewal. Increase the thoroughness of background checks. Lower the standard for flagging applicants. If someone has been a person of interest, dig a little deeper. Anyone charged with felony should scrutinized further.
It's time for change.
I'll second that, Edward.
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John M
climber
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Jun 13, 2016 - 10:13am PT
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most definitely not the first time. But most of the decent people have left this forum because they are done with types like him.
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Norton
Social climber
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Jun 13, 2016 - 10:19am PT
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t's time to change the laws for AR-15s and similar weapons. Require registration, with a renewal every two years. Complete background checks with every registration/renewal. Increase the thoroughness of background checks. Lower the standard for flagging applicants. If someone has been a person of interest, dig a little deeper. Anyone charged with felony should scrutinized further.
It's time for change.
um, that there is Democrat reasoning
clearly you would be a hypocrite if you voted Republican in November
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c wilmot
climber
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Jun 13, 2016 - 10:21am PT
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Most states have a capacity limit for the rifle used for hunting. in my home state its 5 rounds max for deer hunting.
there is really no reason for anymore rounds than that
if its not legal to hunt with- then why is it legal?
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 13, 2016 - 10:21am PT
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clearly you would be a hypocrite if you voted Republican in November
I'll leave that hypocrisy to you.
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John M
climber
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Jun 13, 2016 - 10:22am PT
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you know HFCS.. you are so right. you never insult people. statements like this.. "Time to grow up as a nation and species." aren't insults. they are just the "truth". Please forgive me. I lost my mind. I will not bother you in the future. Good luck brother. I do not climb anymore, so can not meet you on keeler.
Adios..
And Dingus, I don't consider you to be dregs.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jun 13, 2016 - 10:30am PT
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"...you also haven't hidden who you are. People here know you."
Funny...there are plenty of ST regulars here who regularly complain to the contrary.
Some people pay attention better than others, I guess.
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Norton
Social climber
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Jun 13, 2016 - 10:32am PT
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"And Locker, I don't consider you to be dregs."...
and I will also vouch for Locker, but I have to google dregs first to be sure.....
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jun 13, 2016 - 10:36am PT
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jun 13, 2016 - 10:53am PT
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What happened to the gun show loophole? I thought we were going to fix that and everything was going to be better? Because, as we all know thousands of people were dying as a result of the egregious lapse in government oversight! A travesty I tell you! Lol.
A bi-polar, abusive, unhinged, religious zealot, who had already passed through the extensive background checks to become an ARMED security guard and even survived direct scrutiny of the FBI goes off the deep end and what do we call for? Expanded background checks for guns, of course.
Good lord.
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Jun 13, 2016 - 10:53am PT
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As you all squabble over your perceived realities.
The reality is, this didn't need to happen and the murderer should have been stopped sooner than he was.
Rest in peace.
Edward Sotomayor Jr., 34 years old
Stanley Almodovar III, 23 years old
Luis Omar Ocasio-Capo, 20 years old
Juan Ramon Guerrero, 22 years old
Eric Ivan Ortiz-Rivera, 36 years old
Peter O. Gonzalez-Cruz, 22 years old
Luis S. Vielma, 22 years old
Kimberly Morris, 37 years old
Eddie Jamoldroy Justice, 30 years old
Darryl Roman Burt II, 29 years old
Deonka Deidra Drayton, 32 years old
Alejandro Barrios Martinez, 21 years old
Anthony Luis Laureanodisla, 25 years old
Jean Carlos Mendez Perez, 35 years old
Franky Jimmy Dejesus Velazquez, 50 years old
Amanda Alvear, 25 years old
Martin Benitez Torres, 33 years old
Luis Daniel Wilson-Leon, 37 years old
Mercedez Marisol Flores, 26 years old
Xavier Emmanuel Serrano Rosado, 35 years old
Gilberto Ramon Silva Menendez, 25 years old
Simon Adrian Carrillo Fernandez, 31 years old
Oscar A Aracena-Montero, 26 years old
Enrique L. Rios, Jr., 25 years old
Miguel Angel Honorato, 30 years old
Javier Jorge-Reyes, 40 years old
Joel Rayon Paniagua, 32 years old
Jason Benjamin Josaphat, 19 years old
Cory James Connell, 21 years old
Juan P. Rivera Velazquez, 37 years old
Luis Daniel Conde, 39 years old
Shane Evan Tomlinson, 33 years old
Juan Chevez-Martinez, 25 years old
Jerald Arthur Wright, 31 years old
Leroy Valentin Fernandez, 25 years old
Tevin Eugene Crosby, 25 years old
Jonathan Antonio Camuy Vega, 24 years old
Jean C. Nives Rodriguez, 27 years old
Rodolfo Ayala-Ayala, 33 years old
Brenda Lee Marquez McCool, 49 years old
Yilmary Rodriguez Sulivan, 24 years old
Christopher Andrew Leinonen, 32 years old
Angel L. Candelario-Padro, 28 years old
Frank Hernandez, 27 years old
Paul Terrell Henry, 41 years old
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jun 13, 2016 - 10:55am PT
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Ok, Esco...I'll bite.
What would have helped make sure this horrible tragedy never happened?
Edit: Ya know, it seems like every time there's a mass shooting like this, that question gets asked by someone, and the gun-nutz Right gets awful quiet....
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