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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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The video camera is revealing something we didn't want to believe, but now we can't deny.
Right. It vindicated the officer who shot Dillon Taylor.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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You'ze a funny guy, Republican Dave.
Keep 'em coming.
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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150 years after slavery and this is what race relations look like in "the best place to live in America." What will they look like 150 years after YouTube? I'm not holding my breath.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jun 11, 2015 - 04:58am PT
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It is hard to raise teenage children in this day and age. I want to tell both boy and girl to trust the police to help you , but it is a hollow attempt , one only needs to have a family on board for a traffic stop to show my smart kids the truth,
The boys in blue are all arrogant macho dick climber types hi on the power they wield.
The women pigs . . ?error..cops nah I'll give them some respect LEO's police officeretts are worse!
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Jun 11, 2015 - 09:34am PT
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I like the non sequitur nature of the Guardian "reporting."
Here's snippet:
Among the first 500 deaths, 49.6% of people were white, 28.2% were black and 14.8% were Hispanic/Latino. According to the 2013 census, the US population is 62.6% white, 13.2% black and 17.1% Hispanic/Latino.
Hampton on Wednesday allegedly confronted officers who had arrived at a Bronx apartment building in response to a 911 call reporting a man with a gun, according to authorities. The NYPD said Hampton, who was identified by several New York media outlets, had shot and pistol-whipped the mother of his two-year-old child during a domestic dispute.
“The female was able to pull away from the male,” James O’Neill, the NYPD’s chief of department, said in a statement. “The male was still pointing the gun at the officers, and a sergeant and one officer fired multiple rounds at the male.”
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More than one in every five people killed so far in 2015 – 108, or 21.6% – were unarmed. A significant disparity in the proportion of black and white people killed who were unarmed, which was reported last week by the Guardian, has since narrowed slightly. While 30.5% of white people killed were unarmed, 16.1% of black people killed had no weapon .
So we learn that Latinos are shot by police at a rate that is lower than their share of the population,
get a nice report of the shooting of guy who had just shot and pistol-whipped mom, and was pointing a gun at cops,
then we learn the cops kill about twice as many more unarmed white people as unarmed black people (on a percentage basis--actual numbers are much higher).
Doesn't seem like the racist cops are doing a very good job . . .
Edit: whoops, seems like Guardian screwed up the reporting about unarmed black v. white shootings and got it exactly backwards--great reporting there
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Jun 11, 2015 - 09:35am PT
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This one a homeless man in Miami.
The shooting happened Thursday morning at 350 NW 13th Street, near Gibson Park in Overtown. Witnesses told Zea there were summer campers at the park who were on the field when the shooting happened.
One mother, went to the scene when she heard what happened, said her grandson and son are both inside the summer camp. She hadn’t been able to speak to them and doesn’t know whether or not they say anything.
The man shot by the officer, witnesses said, did not launch at the officers but would not drop the stick when he was asked.
Stephanie Severance said the shooting happened in front of 50 kids and that many started “hollering, screaming and running.”
http://miami.cbslocal.com/video/3185269-witnesses-say-homeless-man-fatally-shot-by-police/
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Jun 11, 2015 - 11:05am PT
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Since 62% of people identified as non-Hispanic Caucasian in the last census vs 5% non Caucasian Hispanic and 4% Caucasian Hispanics, I'm not sure the adjustment blahblah is asking for is justified.
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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Jun 11, 2015 - 11:41am PT
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Right blablah the Guardian got it right the first article but mixed it up in the second adjustment. Understandable that we'd prefer that second one, and look to blame the guardian for mixing it up. Someone' must be at fault and it can't be us! The cops - we hire them to work for us. Nicely done!
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Jun 11, 2015 - 11:45am PT
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Hmmm, to the extent that I understand Lorenzo's post (I'm not sure that I do), I think we need to learn what percentage of the Hispanics who are shot by the police are Caucasian Hispanics and what are non-Caucasian Hispanics. Maybe someone can see if the Guardian can break it down?
But until that happens, the fact remains that if all we know about you is that you're Hispanic, you have a lower chance of being killed by the police than you do if you're a non-Hispanic white. (I think that's all correct but it's possible I'm getting something mixed up.)
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Jun 11, 2015 - 11:48am PT
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My 84 year old father got pulled over for speeding. The cop was verbally abusive. Cops today are just generally full of themselves and and don't seem to be capable of exercising discretionary judgement.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Jun 11, 2015 - 12:00pm PT
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That cop that drew his gun at the pool party at least got fired.
Videotaping cops is a good thing, and is protected by law. You become a de facto journalist as long as you maintain sufficient distance, so don't be bullied into shutting it off.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Jun 11, 2015 - 12:16pm PT
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That is one pistol packing mama!
Indeed she is, DMT! I remember a film that came out sometime in the early-to-mid 1960's starring Ursula Andress. The name, mercifully, escapes me. The [alleged] plot involved the need to kill stealthily. Her character had a bikini top equipped with derringers that did in her victim.
John
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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Jun 11, 2015 - 02:14pm PT
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We live in a post racial society. See, we elected a black president, we're done now. If you need further proof, look, the cops pulled over my 84 year old dad. They're just full of themselves. They don't reflect on us and our racist society. Phew, that's a relief!
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Jun 11, 2015 - 04:30pm PT
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Jun 11, 2015 - 12:00pm PT
Videotaping cops is a good thing, and is protected by law. You become a de facto journalist as long as you maintain sufficient distance, so don't be bullied into shutting it off.
Advice like this is dangerous.
In Oregon, it is illegal to videotape people and offer it for sale without consent, so if you try to sell your journalism, you could be committing a crime.
It is, however, ok to videotape the commission of a felony if human life is at risk.
Also, turn the Sound off. It is illegal to audio tape any conversation without informing people or obtaining one person in the conversation's consent. A breach is a crime, and evidence may be inadmissible.
There was a case here some years ago where women were unknowingly videotaped in changing rooms of a tanning salon.
It turned out to be perfectly legal, but the store owner was prosecuted for the audio content on the tape.
And there is a bill to outlaw videotaping any interaction with a police officer. We shall see where that goes.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Jun 11, 2015 - 04:46pm PT
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Hope you have a good lawyer. Here's the law. Pretty cut and dry.
It's been vetted in the Oregon Supreme Court, which is usually lots more liberal than federal courts. Oregon's freedom of speech laws are much more permissive than the rest of the country.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Jun 11, 2015 - 04:50pm PT
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When any of those people win in court against Oregon, you let me know, too, OK?
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