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Dingus McGee
Social climber
Where Safety trumps Leaving No Trace
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Dec 12, 2014 - 04:26pm PT
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In reference to allowing politics Mike Fredritchs says,
It seems reasonable that we would want to discuss these things among our tribe.
Those topics of the politics that Freddie suggests to allow [full priority queuing]? could be recognized when the thread title tied such political proposals to climbing/access. In other words make your political thread very specific.
Under priority queuing the thread tile would most likely give significant information for Chris's choice about whether something of a political nature was pertinent to climbing considerations. And those threads not pertinent would soon end up at best on the second page.
No threads are deleted under this simple form of priority queuing and I would say it meets the kiss rule--keep it simple stupid.
In several instances Chris has already decided what goes on on this site and I can see no significant infringements to freedom of speech should he begin priority queuing.
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The tactic of priority queuing is like asking you bar room customers that play hacky sack to do it in the back room and not disturb those that came to the front room lounge for dinner.
Why Are Republicans WRONG about EVERYTHING? How pertinent to what??
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 12, 2014 - 04:33pm PT
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RJ, that's high praise coming from you! I'm touched!
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 12, 2014 - 05:08pm PT
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If it ever gets the point that SushiFest is OT please just delete my entire account. It's about the only reason I post any more anyway.
And you deleted one thread because it degenerated (apparently) into personal attacks. Yet hundreds more were not deleted. Me thinks it was less about the attacks and more about the original subject matter.
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Gal
Trad climber
going big air to fakie
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Dec 12, 2014 - 05:33pm PT
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I hope that this does not become a sanitized monitored boring place . I would like it to stay as it is. That's my opinion on the matter.
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Brent Mattix
Trad climber
Roseville, CA
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Dec 12, 2014 - 05:34pm PT
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Chris,
Create the best of both worlds!
In reading through comments/reactions to your question, there is a split with many who enjoy the free spirit ("campfire") feel of the threads and many who want CLIMBING when the want CLIMBING. No matter what, I speculate that most don't like clutter (self-defined by each person), but currently there isn't a tool for a choice.
GIVE EVERYONE A CHOICE.
Set up programming:
1. Where Users can label the thread into pre-selected categories.
a. Drop down menu after the thread title for those interested in categorizing a thread (Climbing, politics, relationships, debates, off topics, etc.)
b. One user = one opportunity to categorize a thread.
c. Majority Rules in establishing the category for the thread.
2. Users can choose what categories they want visible for their account (like a Google Calendar.)
If the programming aspect isn't too complicated, this idea may serve as a evolution in discussion threads.
At any rate, I enjoy the Taco even if I don't post often. Cheers!
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 12, 2014 - 05:37pm PT
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naw... just greasemonkey the sh#t out of it:
though boring (hi Gal!) it sure does keep the idiot noise to zero
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John M
climber
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Dec 12, 2014 - 05:37pm PT
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And you deleted one thread because it degenerated (apparently) into personal attacks. Yet hundreds more were not deleted. Me thinks it was less about the attacks and more about the original subject matter.
I don't think so. My guess would be that Chris is flummoxed as to how to make this a place where more climbers want to post. He has a number of people telling him that they won't post here anymore. Or rarely. Yet he also has climbers saying that they love to be able to talk about anything. So he deleted a thread to try and wake a few people up and just see what would happen. Its all an experiment. Chris isn't all knowing. My understanding is this place barely covers the bills. So its not money. Its not power. Its just Chris wanting a cool place for climbers to talk about anything, but most especially about climbing, while not having to mess about with it too much.
And come on Nature. There is no way sushifest will ever not be climbing related. Even if you have to stop climbing.
Its the human lower ego that fooks things up. Pissy passive aggressive pukes. I'll tell you one thing though. I have learned a lot about my own passive aggressive tendencies from this forum. There are some smart folks here which have helped me a lot. But so far no one seems to have much of an answer for the lower ego. At least not one many would try and understand.
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John M
climber
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Dec 12, 2014 - 05:41pm PT
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who are you scrubbing bubbles?
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 12, 2014 - 05:43pm PT
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I don't think so. My guess would be that Chris is flummoxed as to how to make this a place where more climbers want to post.
maybe he could have figured that out a year and half ago when idiots like rong took the place over, flooded this place with his inane bullshit and drove so many away?
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Gal
Trad climber
going big air to fakie
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Dec 12, 2014 - 05:43pm PT
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Hi Nature - it would be a tragedy if the sushi-fest schedule ever disappeared - mmmmm sushi!!!! So excited to see if i can make some of these 2015 fests!!!!!!
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 12, 2014 - 05:46pm PT
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I should add to that because I do know that so many love the event. Many more than I really ever hear from.
But truth be told I'm about to go out on a limb and change my life up and SushiFest might not fit (at least not here in the States - CostaRicaSushiFest, etc.). It's time for me to slip through the cracks of society and bail into this world and stir some real sh#t up. Me and the ReverendPagagMonkeyBoy have huge plans. Stay tuned....
John M - I don't see myself stopping climbing. I just have to climb in tropical environments. Boulder right now is not that. Crap.. I can't even fly my aerial photography platforms w/o my fingers getting cold while operating the sticks.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Dec 12, 2014 - 05:51pm PT
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Doug you greasemonkey'd Squamish Photos and Stories?? Is it something i said??
;)
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 12, 2014 - 05:54pm PT
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Naw... half the time I grease is simply because I realize I just never read the thread (I've seriously become disinterested in most of the content here). But full disclosure... i greased the crap out of the home page just for that screen cap. Maybe I'll see if I can undo that ONE ;)
Would it make you feel better if I greased Jims thread? hah!
I grease a lot of threads but only a handful of avatars.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Dec 12, 2014 - 05:58pm PT
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Lol. I was going to say you did that for a laugh. You should read my thread, and not for my contributions but for the amazing stories provided by many legendary historical Squamish characters!
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Dec 12, 2014 - 06:02pm PT
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I was following it a while back and read a lot of it. only greased it tonight ;)
I'm just not interested in that stuff right now. again, i'll figure out how to get it back. Was hoping someone would laugh at a stark ST front page.... besides me.
Oh.. and Gym says "hi"
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Dec 12, 2014 - 06:07pm PT
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Oh I laughed! Lol. Thanks.
Sorry to hear about your hands and feet. I wish you well on your new adventure.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Dec 12, 2014 - 06:12pm PT
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It is really peculiar to me that Chris McNamara started this thread but has not engaged us since then. Correct me if I am wrong please, but he hasn't posted since the OP, right? And I am very fond of CMac.
Chris.... this is not one of those "just add water" type of things. You own a forum. Tens of thousands or more of us are here. It is a giant cocktail party, as John Vawter has said in the past here. It won't keep shape if it simply is running feral. No matter how much you believe in climbers as a subset. ST staff has to participate in it if you want it to maintain form. Everybody needs an editor, shall we say. And you shouldn't have to be apologizing. In short, get on it. Put staff on it. Your baby won't be ugly, as Dingus Milktoast has said.
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HermitMaster
Social climber
my abode
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Dec 12, 2014 - 06:14pm PT
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I still think the main problem here is lack of moderation. Meaning that someone needs to moderate the forum besides coming in every once in a while and throwing people and their posts off the taco.
More to the point: Moderation features are built into just about every singe forum software that exists. Go and check out WordPress and you will see that this problem has been dealt with for a very long time.
For example: You can also hand out moderator accounts to those that hang out here on a regular basis. You don't have to give them the power to delete posts. But, you can give them enough power to have the posts put on hold and sent to someone who can make a decision.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 12, 2014 - 06:25pm PT
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"who are you scrubbing bubbles?"
Who cares. What matters around here is what you say, and how you say it.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Dec 12, 2014 - 06:45pm PT
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My two cents.
I agree 100% with Russ W, The Larry, Fritz, Jim B and Graniteclimber.
However, I wonder if it is too little too late though. Damage has been done. Is it recoverable? I don't know.
(I actually could not remember my password when signing on to post this. It took three tries.)
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