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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Oct 22, 2014 - 03:48pm PT
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I personally would pay to preserve some of those and I know others who would as well. Not everyone is bitter and cynical.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Oct 22, 2014 - 04:09pm PT
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Not everyone is bitter and cynical.
 no.... most can hardly be bothered... after all... there is no issue up for discussion
Stupid bump edit:
Oct 22, 2014 - 04:17pm PT
I fear that in "pruning" the forum, we are taking too much fruitwood.
If nothing else, leave the threads as monuments to the stupidity and the brilliance posted therein...
whoops....
that has not happened yet, in any case....
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2014 - 05:58pm PT
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I hear, dmt and jebus, pretty much agree.
For my part, no guarantee was ever assumed. Were it, then yes, that would be naivete.
Still, the obliterated thread was a nice record or reference or so (despite ionlyski's post) for those (climbers at the Fire) with interests in these areas. Where was the simple courtesy - let's just say climber to climber courtesy? Before a delete or return button by an administrator was pushed.
Shame.
Nor did admin/management ever deign to respond in the slightest.
Double shame. :(
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Dr. F, for what it's worth, I too enjoyed your presence here at ST. Further, I didn't suspect for a moment that the thread's obliteration was your doing. Anyone w experience here would immediately know a member couldn't obliterate all posts of other authors without the management's input. Best of luck to you, comrade. Keep the charge! :)
Remember, you are what you eat, lol!
PS. Jan, Cintune and others, it was fun mixing it up with you, believe it or not, lol! For the record, I always entered the thread more or less in "debate" mode. Were the circumstances different, sipping lattes in the corn belt, eg., I'm sure the postures and exchanges would've been different. Anyway, thanks for the back n forth, I enjoyed it all. :)
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 22, 2014 - 08:05pm PT
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Pretty interesting khanom.
Hows your Arduino project going?
I have a Uno R3 and am in the process of designing a wireless voltmeter with xbee's and graphic oled display ......
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Oct 22, 2014 - 08:55pm PT
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If you like a thread, download it to your hard drive.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Oct 22, 2014 - 09:00pm PT
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Yes, we all know that now. Hindsight is wonderful!
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Oct 22, 2014 - 09:03pm PT
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And fructose, although you and I clashed numerous times, we also agreed when others didn't on several occasions. And you gave me some really good references to look up and to order from Amazon, so I hope you'll be back and that was not a farewell statement.
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MH2
climber
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Oct 22, 2014 - 09:12pm PT
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pure view volume is the most monetarily valuable asset to the forum, not necessarily quality of views..this dynamic does change when an advertiser makes a direct buy from ST's inventory and may not want to be associated with particular content
Makes me miss good old, "Everything is no-thing."
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Oct 22, 2014 - 09:19pm PT
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I have posted on Dr.F (Craig Fryes) threads like religion vs science and others. I was going to give a light hearted oh, well, it's gone....let's get on, with life. Then I started re reading all the responses. Sorry this happened and hope you all find recovery of information and healing from this crazy deletion. Cheers, lynnie
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MikeL
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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Oct 22, 2014 - 09:25pm PT
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Dingus:
I would vote for the right of people to determine for themselves what is worth investing their time and energy in and what isn’t. What works for you is what works for you. Let's let others say for themselves. I think we've had enough of the Truth Police for the time being.
To what Khanom and W.L. wrote, here are citations to how the economics work on multiple-sided platforms and increasing returns to adoption technologies.
Arthur, B. `Competing technologies, increasing returns, and lock-in by historical events'. Economic Journal, 99, 1989, pp. 116-131.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-sided_market
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nah000
climber
canuckistan
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Oct 22, 2014 - 10:03pm PT
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great post khanom.
hope you don't stay gone, as i'm interested to hear what the other thing you want to bring up is...
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MikeL
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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Oct 23, 2014 - 06:58am PT
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Dingus: Does cmac get a vote too?
Everyone gets a vote.
Getting things right, and keeping them right, with customers / users is what enterprise is all about. From that come revenues and profits if an enterprise is efficient.
Beyond that, there are other stakeholders (investors, employees, management, government, professional observers / raters / pundits, etc.), and they need to be in the mix, as well.
At some point, organizations make commitments to those stakeholders, and the extent to which they fulfill those promises (aka, “brand”) usually explains a great deal of their success or failure. People will legitimately bitch about product or service if the seller / organization does not live up to its part of the bargain.
No product and service is merely the physical or digital artifact that is tangible. Most of the things that people buy (even if by just visiting a website) are the subjective experiences and perceptions that get “wrapped around” a tangible product or service. In many instances, it’s the only thing that really matters to people.
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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Oct 23, 2014 - 08:19am PT
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Why was Dr. F booted? He seemed a lot more civil than most of the Climate Change posters. Those characters are like unruly children.
Now we have Sketch and Locker, who stayed away from the original thread. I think it intimidated people because of the quality of writing. Most posts were well thought out and unusually coherent for this place.
That is one of the reasons that I liked it. It had an unusually high IQ level, and a cast of characters who were familiar either with the problems or with the arguments.
Too bad for Dr. F.
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 23, 2014 - 08:45am PT
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Didn't Dr F say he was booted by a Mr B.
So mister B I'm assuming must not be Chris.
Maybe his dad?
But somehow it seems to me that Dr F was complaining to management about certain posters and wanted them booted (?) all while authoring the two most OT threads on the forum.
Dr f was incremental on keeping the Repub are wrong thread on the top daily all while a large percentage of forum members gave their continual displeasure to its existence at the top.
I believe (speculating) that he pissed off the Owners of this site when he started complaining and asking for removal (banning/and or verbal flogging) of certain individuals.
When you are the most prolific OT engager and start complaining I believe you've crossed the line with the site's owners.
They will then 0wn YOU ........ :-)
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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Oct 23, 2014 - 09:28am PT
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It's difficult understanding exactly what is ot for the site. Is the site about climbing, or about making money? We don't get to say and the creator isn't telling us. We each just participate or not for our own reasons. Not so different than the rest of our lives?
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Oct 23, 2014 - 10:09am PT
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I mostly participated in the deleted thread because I'm awesome, and the thread was one of the few here big enough to accommodate that.
The thread is gone, but I'm still awesome.
Do I mourn it's loss? Of course I do, as one would mourn the loss of the teaching agony of a testicular boil or steady companionship of an incontinent old mutt.
I must let this loss flow over me. Fortunately, the deleted thread motivated me to get into yoga.
While that may or may not be exactly true, it could have been, and therein lies the jewel in the eye of the lotus here.
For a thread is both Miles and Bieber, blowjobs and butthurt, yoga and Crossfit (TM)., dragged cats and drunken poets, the suspended, ethereal beauty of Saturn and the cheap, sun-peeled paint of a Saturn. It is betting Big Quatloos over No Thing with other disembodied minds.
A thread is the very best of who we are, and the very worst of who we never intended to be but became anyway in the continual process of becoming that is existence in this infinitely narrow slice of the universe we call the moment, which is nothing more than the meeting of past and future, neither of which actually exist at all in the present, which is, after all, all there is, even if it's defined by two nothings, and therefore, in and of itself, nothing at all.
Namaste.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Oct 23, 2014 - 10:18am PT
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As I've said on another thread, if there is anything of historic value on this site that you value, download it sooner rather than later. And let us hope that Grossman is able to put up his historically oriented site sooner rather than later.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Oct 23, 2014 - 11:18am PT
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Cheers and thank you for your thoughts. If I see cmac tonight I promise I will not mention any of this (website business), at all. ;
I believe in science this is called observer bias?
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