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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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Those shitstains in Albania and Egypt aren't hunters or falconers. They have no respect for their quarry, no respect for their winged hunting partners, and are the equivalency of trust fund sh#t heads with too much time on their hands.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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The dogs look better than the humans in that picture...
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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found a dog walking down hwy 108, looked like Afghanistan, all bombed up and depleted,
been walkin 3 days with a shock collar on him, got out of range of the transmitter,
made me sick to see a dog treated this way, frickin collar weighed 3 lbs,
you want a bear then find him yourself, jus sayin...wtf, over?
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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MH2
climber
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You can't go by appearances.
Typical prey: rolls of toilet paper.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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In my opinion, hunting should be all about need. Do you need to kill a bear to survive? My guess, and yes it's a guess, is that the majority of those who hunt bear, with or without dogs, aren't going to consume the animal. Bear is a tough meat, I've eaten it a few times.
If anyone hunts without consuming their prey, they are selfish humans.
And, if anyone wants to chime in snidely about my vegetarian eating, you're out of line. I'm an omnivore who mostly eats veggies and some meat. Meat from hunters who are my friends, or farms near my house.
I'm also guessing that Ron and others will say that treed bears are eaten by most hunters, but I just flat out don't believe you.
I know hunters, I live in an area where real hunters do so for food, and they don't want the bear tags, because there is better game to spend their time tracking and killing.
If you want to hunt and kill because you like it, just say so, but spare me the childish nonsense of justifying it in disingenuous ways.
Me? I prefer to shoot my guns at inanimate targets and let nature carry on without me interfering.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Hunters killed 1,002 bears in California in 2013, a 48 percent decline from the number killed in 2012, according to the Sacramento Bee
Hunters take 3,000-4,000 bears every season here in our itty bitty state of West Virginia.
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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my family hunted. i grew up hunting. our best dogs were blue ticks. always had a coonskin drying on the chicken house.
the only thing worse than having to feed, clean up, and pluck chickens, is doing all that only to have the damn coons break into the hen house and kill all the chickens.
dog craft is not a simple thing. not all dogs can hunt. not all dogs who can hunt, train up well. and a jillion gps collars wouldn't have made it any easier to track and trail in the big muddy flats at midnight.
yes, there's a lot of retards hunting coons. there's a lot of tards on this site. and even more at the crags. but neither has made me lose my basic respect for good dog craft or good rock craft.
i can't offer any knowledgeable comment on the bear hunting deal-- i've never bear hunted, and i'm not up on the literature. i do know that hunting bear with dogs goes back centuries in europe, and that bears (grizzly aside) aren't on the endangered list here in cali.
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franky
Trad climber
Bishop, CA
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Hunting can lead to a lot of the same mental failings as climbing. For example: A Climber really wants to get to the top of a hard route and wishes there was just the tiniest foothold where there isn't one, A Hunter really wants to get his animal and wishes he just had the tiniest clue about where it was.
Obviously this is silly, if there was another foothold it wouldn't be a hard climb, if you know where the animal was you wouldn't be hunting, you'd be a wild deer/bear/whatever rancher.
Climbing fortunately forces people to recognize that hoping for things to be easier is stupid, hunting often embraces that hope and promises ways to make the hunt easier, which people obviously snap up in droves.
Both sports are largely about the sportsman battling with his self-doubt and sticking to his reasonable goal and his well thought out plan even under difficult conditions.
I can tell you that there are thousands of dedicated, challenge-accepting, nature-appreciating hunters in Cali. Of course, there are many more who would prefer to set up bait fields right next to the road.
Anyone who tells you they hunt only for meat is truly missing the point, it'd be like saying you climb to get to summits.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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If you really need the meat for your family i do not give a hoot how you get it. a spot light and .22 is the most economical. hunting to put a head on your wall is pretty fcked up.
+10 for JD
There should be a season to use dogs for hunting rednecks.....accept their too drunk and fat to climb trees
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franky
Trad climber
Bishop, CA
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Id say if you just need meat, buy a cheap shotgun and go coot hunting. limit is 25 a day and they wont even bother to fly until at least 15 are shot.
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dirtbag
climber
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Alright Ron, that is cute!
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dirtbag
climber
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I don't know any bear hunters, but I certainly know that is true for waterfowl hunters.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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DMT, ya got any more of them there pictures?
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Tradman for the win!!,
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fluffy
Trad climber
Colorado
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Cute pic Ron
What a good girl
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