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cheamster
Trad climber
Vancouver
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Nov 15, 2013 - 04:27pm PT
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Since I'm not getting through to you, I'll repeat it one more time and I'm done: Internet. Forums. Not. The. Place. For. Public. Trial.
that is all. I don't know all the facts. Maybe Johnk is completely in the right, maybe he has broken down every nuance of this situation so that you can sanctimoniously render your internet justice.
I'll leave you to that, good luck. I'm done with this discussion.
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Nightclub Dwight
Social climber
Outside Your Window
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Nov 15, 2013 - 05:37pm PT
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Aww hell, are all ya'll internet wankers still working to give John Kelley the virtual hand job of his dreams? Is he so impotent that he hasn't spooged all over his screen from your loving attentions yet? Do any of you cali-centric attaboy backslappers know any climbers in Anchorage? If so, you should ask them about consensus opinion on Mr Kelley. I know several, and as a whole they pronounce him as a psychopathic homophobic internet stalker who is mentally unstable and incapable of keeping a girlfriend more than two days. Not that this is a problem, hell, I'd screw him if he'd spread his legs and squeal like a pig, he's a splendid hunk of man meat, but his homophobic slurs of ST posters like Joe Hedge and Prezwoods suggest that he's so deep in the closet he'd murder the first guy that got him off.
More to the point, he claims that John Frieh lacks even basic alpine skills. Here's a list of TR's from Frieh's home board: www.cascade climbers trip reports Note that you'll have to enter "john frieh" in the "poster" field to summon his postings, but its clear that the man has been around the block. It kind of makes one wonder, what else has Kelley lied about? Please, make no mistake: Kelley is categorically a psychopathic liar.
Kelley says he'd never apply for a grant. Maybe true, but not for the reasons implied, otherwise why would he have been after Frieh to apply for a Spitzer grant from the AAC for a proposed climb of Celeno in 2012? Of course, Kelley isn't a member of the AAC and so he is ineligible, but he wasn't above seeking a proxy, who he'd already stood up on several climbing dates, to request a grant application 24 hours before it was due? Stood up? Yes, Kelley was non responsive to email/text/phone messages from Frieh for months as timelines for proposed climbs came and went. Kelley said he'd apply for a Mugs/Stump grant for the proposed Celeno climb, which he should have a good chance for, since he'd never applied for a grant before? How did it go, did you fail to apply or were you rejected?
Ya'll might think John Kelley is the cats pajama's based on his claims, but I'm here to tell you he's a lying sack of sh!t and you've been had by a consummate internet troll. You just keep stroking the lonely Anchorage mountain boy's tiny penis, I'm sure he'll climax soon. Maybe this sort of humiliation is just what he's been seeking? JK, are you a closet submissive, as well as a closet faggot?
Kelley's "work"? Excuse me, but we're talking about a snapshot of a peak, which Polaratec paid him $200 for and Frieh offered to pay him $250 for. What, Fried offered to pay him? Well, payment was refused with "I'll see you in court" which is certainly indicative of what kind of Alaskan strong man Kelley is: lawsuit whore. Yeah, kind of makes you wonder what else Kelley has lied about. Frieh apologized too, but apparently that is not enough, and it kind of makes you wonder what else Kelley lied about.
Stole his route? Well, due to inadvisable landing conditions Frieh and company got dropped off on the other side of the mountain and attempted a different new route. What the fawk is Kelley complaining about? Go climb "your" (as in its been attempted by others before) route whiner, it still hasn't been climbed. Are you the biggest mealy mouthed piss poor whinging dingbat in the history of Alaskan climbing, or do you actually have the skill to climb the route? You've already admitted you were there watching Frieh & company, why didn't you do the FA then you inept wannabee wanker? You're pathetic; most of us sometimes fail to live up to our aspirations, but we don't all seek solace from ignorant strangers who will assure us that our failures are not our fault. For god's sake man, take responsibility for your own foibles.
Yeah yeah, I know Frieh, enough that he'd talk to me about this, but not enough that we'd recognize each other in the supermarket. Some of you, JK included are going to give me sh#t for posting anonymously. How many of you have dealt with a stalker before? I mean the kind of bitch who when jilted after flaking out on several climbing dates sets out to email everyone you've dealt with in an official capacity to trash your reputation? I'm talking Dan H0witt level stalker, the sh!thead FortMental quoted regarding his enduring character assassination of Chad Kellog for daring to doubt his bogus claims. That's what John Kelley has done with John Frieh, and if that whiney biotch wants to go after me the same way, he can try and unravel my anonymous avatar, or send his usual death threats via email. Here's a tip for you JK: Chris Mac doesn't give a sh#t about your whining butthurt and won't give you succor without a warrant.
In fact Mr Kelley, none of the vast range of people you've emailed your voluminous whinging complaints to want to have anything to do with you, or are willing to take any position on your personal vendetta. Polartec paid you for the snapshot they published online to cover their legal exposure, it was not in any way an endorsement of your vile rants. Let me make it clear: no one gives a damn about you or your claims beyond the popcorn munching value of viewing an internet drama queen's hissy fit. Do some yoga so you can suck your own c*#k, ain't no one on the planet going to do it for you.
And hey, everyone should apply for a grant for Celeno in the Wrangell Mountains just to chap Kelley's ass.
Photo by Patrick Endes courtesy of AlaskaPhotoGraphics
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Nightclub Dwight
Social climber
Outside Your Window
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Nov 15, 2013 - 05:49pm PT
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Sheeeit, do you swallow every bit of rotten dead fish with a hook in it? This is not an ethical dispute, this is a butthurt complaint from a troller who wants the validation of your sympathy. Boohoo, someone tried my route! He offered me a spot on the trip but I didn't accept.
What, Frieh offered Kelley a spot on the trip that was funded by the grant? Kind of makes you wonder what else Kelley lied about.
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goatboy smellz
climber
लघिमा
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Nov 15, 2013 - 05:49pm PT
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Certainly more interesting than the political threads.
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Nightclub Dwight
Social climber
Outside Your Window
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Nov 15, 2013 - 05:54pm PT
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More personal anyway, always makes it more interesting. I'm looking forward to my first email punch out/death threat from JK. Word amongst those with experience with the man is that he's profligate with that jive.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Nov 15, 2013 - 05:57pm PT
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If Frieh knew all this about jk why would he use his photo without permission which he admittedly did.
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canyoncat
Social climber
SoCal
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Nov 15, 2013 - 06:10pm PT
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I don't know anything about Kelley's friends, but if the last few posts were any example of Frieh's friends, it's time for new ones.
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Nightclub Dwight
Social climber
Outside Your Window
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Nov 15, 2013 - 06:45pm PT
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MTsomenumbers, the point is that its all He said She said. You want me to post up private email to a public forum to prove my points? That would definitely be unethical, almost as bad as using someone else's snapshot to propose a line. Frieh offered to pay Kelley for using his photo, did Kelley offer to pay Frieh for posting his personal email? Get my drift? This is all a butthurt catfight over no big thing, but Kelley tries to dress up his pig as an ethical conundrum and justify contesting Frieh's grant applications. Its all pathetic bullshit whining, you might as well go after Henry Barber or Ron Fawcett for poaching someone else's routes, routes that are a Brazillion times more popular than some snow slog in the Wrangell mountains that might see two ascents per decade.
Pathos stalks the earth in the form of Kelley's lament for what he might have climbed. Did Tom Frost get paid for his lovely beta photo of El Cap that others have drawn lines all over? Should I get paid for the line on El Cap that arch c*#ks@cker Steve Grossman later climbed when I saw it with my binoculars in 1976? The point is that John Kelley has shown himself to be less than the scrum I scraped off my EB's before climbing some weak slab route on the Glacier Point Apron in 1974, and all his thunder and whinge means less than a fart in the wind.
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Nightclub Dwight
Social climber
Outside Your Window
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Nov 15, 2013 - 06:48pm PT
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Heh, I just gotta acknowledge that Cmac's disemvowelment of the insult before "Steve Grossman" in my last post meets the definition of censorship while in no way impinges on the use of the term. Just another case in point that Chris is in fact a master of internet discourse.
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Nightclub Dwight
Social climber
Outside Your Window
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Nov 15, 2013 - 07:02pm PT
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Jammer, have you really met JK? Did he cup your balls under the bar? If not Subman, you display a disturbing level of loyalty to a proven homophobic stalker that bears reconsideration. You must have research skills, take a look at who you are defending. You really exhibit poor reading comprehension skills, did you actually graduate middle school? No offense intended to the illiterate on this board, but it does undermine your ability to effectively argue your point.
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Nov 15, 2013 - 07:29pm PT
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The A-Frieh-D avatars are out in force.
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Dolomite
climber
Anchorage
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Nov 15, 2013 - 07:30pm PT
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Don't know JK or JF but what I got from this thread is that JK made his point very early on, then beat it to death. JF's one post was little thin, in my opinion, but there could be any number of reasons he wouldn't want to get drawn in to a public goat rodeo like this one.
And, in my opinion, climbing grants should go to the young and needy, period. If there's money "leftover" pay the AAJ contributors for their writing, if their climbs are supposed to be, as advertised, "The world's most significant climbs."
Peace, and out.
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Nightclub Dwight
Social climber
Outside Your Window
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Nov 15, 2013 - 07:32pm PT
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Oh Kalimon, JK's Submen have been active for quite awhile too. You, I take for a popcorn eater, am I wrong?
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Nov 15, 2013 - 07:38pm PT
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Yes you are quite mistaken.
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Nov 15, 2013 - 07:43pm PT
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Should I get paid for the line on El Cap that arch c*#ks@cker Steve Grossman later climbed when I saw it with my binoculars in 1976?
Someone has to know who this Dwight guy is??!
Incredible you would call someone a psycho or homophobe after the babble you just spewed Dwight. Classy.
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Nightclub Dwight
Social climber
Outside Your Window
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Nov 15, 2013 - 07:50pm PT
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Ah, unbelievable. Do you need me to google that for you grandpa?
err, that's for RyanD, this thread's off the charts, like Bob Dylan talking about the upper City of Rocks water well in 2009: The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handle!
Ack, let me be more clear: I like sucking c*#k, so why do you think that's an insult? JK does too, he just won't admit it. AKgloryhole knows though...
I'd link you a vid, but unlike some, I know what's forbidden
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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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Nov 15, 2013 - 08:16pm PT
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Nice chunk of libel upthread there, Nightclub--well played.
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Nov 15, 2013 - 08:24pm PT
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Grandpa, lol.
Yeah good stuff keep em coming blue oyster bar Dwight.
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