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crusher
climber
Santa Monica, CA
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Perhaps this is being done but are the local authorities putting the missing flier up at all the Mammoth, Reds Meadows and local area trailheads? They all have map/bear info boards, toilets, etc. at their parking areas and the more people see it the better. Maybe someone coming out from a backpacking trip has seen Matthew back in there - who knows?
So at this point was the last known sighting of or conversation with Matthew aboard the Reds Meadows Shuttle (or was it a town shuttle that drops at Main Lodge)? And that was mid-July? Or has a later sighting been confirmed (sorry I haven't been able to read all the posts yet).
Sending good vibes out there to all.
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franky
Trad climber
Bishop, CA
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i apologize for my roommate's ill-informed and insensitive comment. I deleted it.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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He owes you some beer! Definate party foul.
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10b4me
Ice climber
Wishes-He-Was-In-Arizona
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Has the flyer been passed out to YARTS?
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needledick
climber
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Hello Super Topo, I am Needledick, Franky's roomate. Silence is golden, my first error was participating in an internet forum. Moving on... I am not any more ill informed than anyone else. I am a former S&R professional. I also happen to be insensitive at times although I did not intend to hurt any feelings. I just don't understand the gesture of saying that you are hoping for "a good outcome" when clearly things aren't good. Your realization that things aren't good is likely what compelled you to comment that you hoped things "turn out good". I'm not sure how my statement makes things worse although I acknowledge that it certainly doesn't help, but neither do 90% of the other comments in this thread. Lay aside your emotional bias. I don't plan on responding to anymore comments concerning my post so if you really care about the conversation and the family members reading the thread, you will quickly forget it. If you feel like it, flame on, just understand that your target audience wont be listening.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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I'm not sure how my statement makes things worse
You are on a forum full of SAR pro's Somehow you think we don't know the score?
Suggest you consider that you are not a vulcan. Human factors matter.
Fact. Worse cases have come out positive.
Demotivating folks does not help.
You have a lot to learn about how the world works.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Make sure to help spread the word on Facebook etc.
If it was my buddy missing you'd bet your ASS I wouldn't stop looking.
I've been at north lake out of bishop (SE face Emerson), rock creek bouldering and cathedral/tenaya. No sign of anything, for what it's worth. Not really info that's useful but why not.
Now....back on topic.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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franky- your roommate lives up to his moniker. "insensitive dumbass" would work as well. you live with that person?
edit: I'm assuming needledick is your roomie, but could be wrong since the post was deleted and I missed it.
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WBraun
climber
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climbski2
"Demotivating folks does not help.
You have a lot to learn about how the world works."
100% spot on.
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franky
Trad climber
Bishop, CA
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Needle dick is a very good roommate. Just not very experienced in the ways of the internet. He fails to realize that there are real people reading this forum who treat it like a normal conversation. I see what he's saying, I just don't think he's right to say it in the manner he did to whoever is reading this. People who have seen and done enough searches know that less likely scenarios are still pretty common.
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SCseagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Needle dick is a very good roommate
I guess he pays his rent portion on time.
Susan
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Agony throws everything off-center. And we are agonizing here. It will be messy.
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strangeday
Trad climber
Brea ca.
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Needle dick is a very good roommate. Just not very experienced in the ways of the internet. He fails to realize that there are real people reading this forum who treat it like a normal conversation. I see what he's saying, I just don't think he's right to say it in the manner he did to whoever is reading this.
There are plenty of other forums/threads on the web to practice trolling that are much more appropriate than this thread. Hope is a very powerful emotion, and sometimes in life, it's all one has to lean on.
Best wishes to the friends and family of the missing.
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SCseagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Agony throws everything off-center. And we are agonizing here. It will be messy.
Thank you, Peter. What a beautiful capture of some complex stuff.
Susan
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there say, franky and needledick and all...
i sure missed something, it seems, here, as to a post that somehow was
out of order?...
but i have learned by meeting so many folks in the world, that the words may not come out right, or to fit the situations at hand, properly, at times, as compared to the majority, but there can still be care in the heart... i will see this, in this way...
we are all different, i know that... we all have hopes, and yet, fears, as to folks that are lost... :(
i reckon it is coming out in a variety of ways...
but say--we all DO care... we ARE connected to the climber-field in some way or other, and doing the best to post hope, worries, or whatever, in the light of a very bad situation for someone dear to someone's heart...
prayers offered, again, tonight...
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Maybe it's just a simple case of penis envy...? Here's hoping Matthew is found so that we can stop worrying about him...
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PITA
Social climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Tom,
I can't even imagine the frustration and helplessness you must be feeling at this point. My heart goes out to you, your friends and family.
I have never posted on Supertopo before, but have been following your story. Ok, so this might be really lame, but a thought.
This last weekend I was working the PM shift as an RN. During the day, I wake and sleep. When awake, I cruise the TV channels. I clicked on to the "Nancy Grace" show. She has been broadcasting about two missing persons:
1) an amber alert
2) a kidnapped women.
I have no idea how her show works, I am sure there are a lot of cases nationally, but maybe she would televise Matt? Maybe worth a shot.
Anyway Tom, I do wish you good luck in your search.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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If he was a baby in Florida... But no, I can't see Nancy Grace giving this story press - but hey I could be wrong and bad press is good press if it gets attention...
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Crank, yes. But no matter what, we just do not know a thing at this point. Our young man may be fine, he may not. We couldn't possibly know and we have to wait and work.
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