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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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Anyone checked the blast radias from San Fran? Could Yosemite get contaminated? Now that would piss me off.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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I think you better worry more about the radon from all that granite. ;-)
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Vegasclimber
Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
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Right now, the average N. Korean thinks that we are the aggressors, pushing them to go to war. These people are completely brainwashed from birth, and too downtrodden to know any different. They believe what "Dear Leader" says, and that's that. Right now a good portion of the population is starving, so getting fed is probably all they care about.
I read a story once that a doctor was allowed to perform some eye surgeries in the North. Many of his elder patients burst into tears after recovery - not because they could see again, but because they could gaze upon a photo of the "Dear Leader". You talk about the sheeple in the US - they don't hold a candle to N. Korea.
I'm especially getting a laugh at how the news is trying to convince us that they can strike the US mainland. I saw one graphic that had these big circles emanating from Korea, one of which touched on the Western US. When you opened it, it showed the range of all the missiles they own - that big ring touching the US was totally empty. The fact is, the missiles that they do have could barely reach Hawaii - and that only by a long shot. They are trying to build an ICBM, but so far their success rate is in the toilet with all of their longer-range rockets.
The very real danger is to our military installations in Asia, all of which are in range of their reliable missile systems. I think that all it's going to take is one slight mis step by the US in the current war exercise, and Dear Leader will use that as an excuse to push the button. And yeah, I think he's stupid enough to do so. Any nuclear action would then make Japan and several other countries immediately pursue a nuclear arms program to defend themselves.
If it remains only N. Korea in a conflict, they would be wiped out, but we would lose thousands, and potentially tens of thousands, of US nationals and allies. If the Chinese decide to support Dear Leader, then all bets are off.
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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I don't think he is crazy enough to want to be dead.
We have all of this cold war tactical stuff laying around. It is running out of shelf life. Use it or lose it. Hell, Walt probably designed half of it.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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i heard today that someone hacked the N.K leaders twitter account and sent a picture of himself with a big nose wearing a mickey mouse t-shirt.
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Gene
climber
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i heard today that someone hacked the N.K leaders twitter account and sent a picture of himself with a big nose wearing a mickey mouse t-shirt.
Here it is...
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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If it remains only N. Korea in a conflict, they would be wiped out, but we would lose thousands, and potentially tens of thousands, of US nationals and allies. If the Chinese decide to support Dear Leader, then all bets are off.
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There's no way in hell ANYONE is committing 10s of 1000s of American soldiers to subdue North Korea. That would never get past congress. We'd be bankrupt once again. It's an Asian problem, basically. Though terribly passive aggressive, China will have to make a mover here sometime if Our Leader stops watching porn long enough to launch a nuke.
JL
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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There's no way in hell ANYONE is committing 10s of 1000s of American soldiers to subdue North Korea. That would never get past congress. We'd be bankrupt once again Are you sure?
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abrams
Sport climber
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Of supreme importance in war is to attack the enemy's strategy.
So far so good with N.Korea. They have been threatening for 50 plus years
to commit national suicide and we keep ordering more popcorn in the hope
that the show is entertaining.
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Vegasclimber
Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
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I agree with you totally, John. I should have clarified that to mean we would lose thousands if Dear Leader pushes the little red button at something like Okinawa or any of our other large installations within reach.
I'm really hoping this cools off, I have friends in this nutjob's crosshairs.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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I live in Okinawa and nobody's worried. We've got Patriot missiles and one of the world's biggest air bases protecting us. Most of us here think this is all part of an internal power struggle in North Korea. What better way to rally your people and lock up your detractors than to stir up fears of war? Unfortunately we know so little about North Korea, we're not sure who might be backing or trying to get rid of dear leader.
As for committing troops, that is debatable. We already have tens of thousands of our military stationed in South Korea and if large numbers were killed in a North Korean attack, we would have to respond. Hopefully we're smart enough not to get involved in another land war in Asia or go north of the Yalu River this time. If anyone uses nukes, it's most likely to be us, for the same reason as WWII - to save American lives.
The Chinese will protest but won't do anything. The Korean War set their development back a whole generation and South Korea is a profitable trading partner whereas North Korea is an economic drain and source of refugees.
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steveA
Trad climber
bedford,massachusetts
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It looks like things are heating up over there.
N. Korea has suggested that the Russian Embassy staff ought to leave, and return home for their safety.
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Gary
Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
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What better way to rally your people and lock up your detractors than to stir up fears of war? Unfortunately we know so little about North Korea, we're not sure who might be backing or trying to get rid of dear leader.
He's a disciple of George W. Bush apparently.
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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There may be no way we are sending 10's of 1000's of troops in to subdue N. Korea, but the fact remains that we currently have 28,500 troops stationed there and a large percentage are within artillery range of the N. Korean guns on the DMZ. Sure, we'd kick their butts if we need to, but we could lose quite a few troops even if we respond immediately to an attack.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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If NK pulls the trigger...
They will only get one shot off.
Then the sh#t will fly and the blood will spill.
To bad one of those fat ass generals dosen't have the balls to do the right thing and put a cap into the fat ass.
Just like they did in Romaina. One bullet (really about 15 clips from AK)saves a whole lot if innocent people.
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GuapoVino
Trad climber
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The North Korean military is roughly the same size as the pre-war Iraqi military. Of course Iraq gave us about six months to prepare and get into position and let us set the time frame to when we were ready to go and there was initially hundreds of miles of desert between us and them. And 2/3 of the Iraqi troops were conscripts that really didn't want to be there.
If we go to war I wonder if North Korea will produce any entertaining characters like this guy.
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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There ain't gonna be no conflict. It's all wanking. Asians are locked won. Any attack would never be declared. How do you honestly think the North Koreans would mount any attack at all? With what gas? It takes millions of gallons. And what food? It's silly to take any of this seriously, though yo have to with a nut in office and so many Americans nearby. It is true we have 28 K troops there? Seems crazy excessive. And super costly.
JL
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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What's gonna happen when he hits puberty?
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Cragar
Trad climber
MSLA - MT
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Werner gets my vote for best post on this subject and american's in general.
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