2012 SPRING JOSHUA TREE PARTY AND GORDON FAMILY FUNDRAISER

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goatboy smellz

climber

Nederland-GulfBreeze

Dec 27, 2011 - 12:23pm PT

Yo Mehicoian's are licky to have us as nehbros.
B tankful yur knot one of tjose french snobby candyians frostbacks.

zip

Trad climber

pacific beach, ca

Dec 27, 2011 - 12:43pm PT

Do you have any kind of plan yet on what type of roof that is going to be built, materials and permits needed, and associated costs?

Brandon-

climber

The Granite State.

Dec 27, 2011 - 12:48pm PT

How deep are the eaves?

What sort of overhang will be provided by cedar shakes below the starter course?

goatboy smellz

climber

Nederland-GulfBreeze

Dec 27, 2011 - 12:53pm PT

All you worrywarts need to stand down with the questions.
There are Mexicans on the job, so chill out.

Brandon-

climber

The Granite State.

Dec 27, 2011 - 12:56pm PT

Huh?
It's a simple question and it's my trade I ask about.

I'm curious to hear how it's done in drier climates.

BTW, Pearlclutcher? I don't even know what that means, but it seems derogatory. Thanks.(I can edit my posts too :))

goatboy smellz

climber

Nederland-GulfBreeze

Dec 27, 2011 - 01:00pm PT

Heh, typical anglo response.
Wait for the trip report if you really need to know.
It's roofing, knot rocket science.

zip

Trad climber

pacific beach, ca

Dec 27, 2011 - 01:04pm PT

GS,

Ok, thanks for the update.

I know nothing about roofing, and i was just trying to find out how much of an investment this was going to be.

Glad you got it handled.

Brandon-

climber

The Granite State.

Dec 27, 2011 - 01:15pm PT

It's roofing, knot rocket science.

True, but I don't have enough fingers and toes to count the number of hastily or ignorantly installed roofs I've replaced.

goatboy smellz

climber

Nederland-GulfBreeze

Dec 27, 2011 - 02:05pm PT

Brandon this is a half ass Internet forum not the encyclopedia britanicca.

Brandon-

climber

The Granite State.

Dec 27, 2011 - 02:16pm PT

Dude, I'd like to help out and learn how things are done in different climates.

Check your email.

Peace.

jstan

climber

Dec 27, 2011 - 03:19pm PT

Some of the UBC was posted earlier showing that there should be a 19" over lap on the underlying water resistant layer. I have seen composition shingles on one roof at a slope of 1/12. There the shingle overlap was reduced to four inches. No leaks. Penetrations are usually the problem.

When I stripped off a twenty five year old roof in JT I found all the tar based materials had been fried and were like paper. It is important to get the nail pattern dense so an old roof does not blow off. Based upon the topography the wind at that site should come more or less from the SW.

When stripping Todd's roof the cause of its failure should be apparent. Few to no nails?

One nail per tab?

The sun also destroys the ability of wood to hold nails. Edging pulls away from the rafter ends. Put on new edging if there is any doubt. You can get non wood products for the roof edge that, though pricey, seem to do better. Last roof I doubled the rafter end, stayed away from wood grain that would twist or check and used nothing but screws. Place screws well away from the edge of a piece of wood. And drill baby drill. Very important I think. I even used washers on southern exposures.

Best answer? Stucco the whole eve.

From what I have seen stain beats paint all hollow. Stain is where it's at.

the kid

Trad climber

fayetteville, wv

Dec 27, 2011 - 03:56pm PT

it's on the calendar, now to work it into the work schedule..

the kid

Trad climber

fayetteville, wv

Dec 27, 2011 - 03:57pm PT

T-2 is a licensed California contractor. Lets get him on the mission..

dee ee

Mountain climber

citizen of planet Earth

Topic Author's Reply - Dec 27, 2011 - 03:59pm PT

GORDON FAMILY FUNDRAISER BUMP

BIG PARTY AT THE GORDON RANCH APRIL 21/ 2012

Once again, we are trying to raise some money to fix the roof at THE RANCH.

EVERYONE IS INVITED! Including Stonemasters, Uplanders, wanna-bes, Sheep Buggerers, those mysterious folk from San Diego, RADs, Banditos, Valley boys, Euros, Asians, Latinos, Mazamas, Vulgarians, Buff Alpine clubbers, Sierra Clubbers, American Alpine Clubbers and even Canadians and Newfoundlanders, not to mention people from Florida.

In the continuing philanthropic tradition we will be having a giant party at The Gordon residence on April 21/2012. This year the goal will be to put a new roof on the main house at The Gordon Ranch. They have one messed up roof with multiple leaks. The roofing crew of motivated locals is already set. We just need money for materials.

Most of us know Todd Gordon, AKA "The Mayor of Josh," as one of the most giving humans in the So. Cal climbing community for the last 30 or so years. Chances are you have stayed at one of Todd's houses more than once while visiting Joshua Tree for it's world famous climbing....or you've climbed one of Todd's many, many classic and not so classic routes.... or maybe he even taught you to climb. I myself have been his guest more times than I can remember. We've showered, pooped, watched TV, camped, used the kitchen etc. there while visiting Todd, his family and our beloved Monument (JTNP).

This party is in the beginning stages of planning but we expect to have food and a raging band “Warsaw” to augment the festive fun social scene. We may have a slide show as well.
BYOB booze.

We are looking for volunteers to help with food, setup and cleanup.

READ THIS PART! We are looking for cash and material donations. Cash in any amount is good. Material donations should be things that can be sold for cash. I will have a continuing sale/auction as this thread develops.

Please feel free to call or e-mail me regarding any questions you may have about this must attend event.

You can send cash, checks, money orders and material donations to

TG Donations c/o Dave Evans
1931 Rolling Stone Ln.
Tustin, CA 92780

I have a Paypal account which is dedicated to this event, so if you are Paypal savvy all you need is my e-mail address to help. Paypal is free and easy to sign up for. It is:

devansbike@earthlink.net

I can also be reached at 714-492-2159

Guest List.
1. DEE
2. Todd Gordon
3. Jeremy
4. Dr. F
5. TYeary
6. Bullwinkle
7. Locker
8. Stahlbro
9. steelmonkey
10. philo ?
11. Bransdon ?
12. Mtnmon ?
13. Mighty Hiker ?
14. Brokedownclimber
15. Sketchy
16. RussWalling
17. Flouride
18. Steve
19. RLF
20. Karen
21. Crimpergirl ?
22. Marty(r)
23. Tarbuster
24. TGT
25. F10
26. Lynne Leightfuss
27. SCseagoat
28. Ferretlegger
29. Bill McKirgan
30. goatboy smellz
31. H
32. Paul Parker
33. Ron Gomez
34. Jim Bridwell
35. Dave Yerian
36. Hashbro
37. Murf
38. Sooze
39. Steve West
40. Dennis Gomez
41. happiegirl
42. Riley Wyna
43. Gal
44. Cosmiccragsman
45. Dimes
46. Fitness Coach
47. Mtnmun

Brandon-

climber

The Granite State.

Dec 27, 2011 - 04:01pm PT

Coz,
Yeah, I'm offering to fly cross-country and work like a dog roofing a house for someone I only know vaguely from the Internet, yet care about, as well as meet people I'd like to meet and I get treated like an as#@&%e for the offer.

Sounds like fun.

dee ee

Mountain climber

citizen of planet Earth

Topic Author's Reply - Dec 27, 2011 - 04:07pm PT

I understand and appreciate the interest in the roof by you pros out there. I also hope it is done well. I have confidence in the lead guys ability to make sure it is done correctly and I hope the rest of the crew can follow direction.

I would love to put you all in touch with them so you could have a giant pow-wow but I doubt that is going to happen.

Have faith.

CrackAddict

Trad climber

Canoga Park, CA

Dec 27, 2011 - 05:07pm PT

I am on the list and sending a check to Dave today. I have limited roofing experience beyond "More Monkey Than Funky" but I have torn off old shingles and composite, and am able to do some grunt work.