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k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Jun 3, 2014 - 10:09pm PT
Hypocrites

You run all over countries all over the world and rape and pillage them for your own material lusty gains and then leave them behind
as destroyed shells to fend for themselves from scavengers whom moved in from behind.


So worth repeating.




Speaking of Afghanistan, anybody donate to the cause to remove the land mines that were made (and are still being made) by the USA war machine? Cause, you know, what those things leave behind.

Yeah, it's climbing related because they ring the highest mountain there and nobody can get to it to climb. (OK, so I digress).


To bring some meaning to this, did anybody listed to Bob Bergdahl? He looks like a crazy-assed sketchy dirt-bag climber, but man he's got noodles in his head.


BOB BERGDAHL: The chief prosecutor for the military in Guantánamo Bay is saying that the five Afghans should be traded for Bowe Bergdahl. The chief prosecutor. I don’t think anybody can relate to the prisoners at Guantánamo more, I don’t think, than our family because it’s the same thing. My son is a prisoner of war. And wars end with reconciliation and negotiations with the enemy, and prisoners of war should be part of that dialogue. And I insist, I insist that it will be. The Supreme Court justice that was sent to Nuremberg for the Nuremberg trials, has just an absolutely fantastic statement of what American justice stood for at the end of World War II.

He's quite a guy.

http://www.democracynow.org/2014/6/3/father_of_freed_us_soldier_nobody
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Jun 3, 2014 - 11:00pm PT
KMAN highly approves of the Taliban ideals and how they treat their women and children.

The Chief, why do you make up such crap? Hate in the morning, hate in the evening. Just hate radio all day long from The Chief.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Jun 3, 2014 - 11:09pm PT
Hey The Chief--I have an idea. Why don't you turn it around and try to do something positive with your time? You know, it can feel pretty good. Quite different than focusing on how to hate others all the time.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Jun 3, 2014 - 11:11pm PT
Well KAMN, you approve of the five senior Taliban individuals being returned to their homeland.

Why don't you bring that up with the chief prosecutor for the military in Guantánamo Bay? He was for the trade. I don't hear you denouncing him.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Jun 3, 2014 - 11:15pm PT
Chief, it looks like yer blood pressure is creeping up to dangerous levels. How exactly are the Taliban different than the death penalty nuts here in the US or the "right-to-lifers"???

You performed a series of tasks as specified under your contract; that is done. Now continue being a productive citizen without using your prior work as qualifier.

You are being effectively manipulated by bigger players...
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Jun 3, 2014 - 11:17pm PT
Tthe chief prosecutor for the military in Guantánamo Bay lives in a cave and you live in a castle.


Got it.




I post a quote about how wars end, and you equate that with executions.



And I'm the one who lives in a cave?



Got it.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Jun 3, 2014 - 11:23pm PT
Got your reference right here brother:

http://www.democracynow.org/seo/2014/6/3/former_guantanamo_chief_prosecutor_defends_american



Boy, don't you look suddenly like a fool.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Jun 3, 2014 - 11:28pm PT
Yo Chief, I am not kidding; describe the differences without resorting to some BS talking points.

Thanks!
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Jun 3, 2014 - 11:42pm PT
The five going back to their homeland and returning to Taliban business as usual in promoting and securing the Taliban Sharia Law way of life.

What would you do had you been captured, held for a decade, and then released?

It seems you are projecting that into your predictions of how these men will act...
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Jun 4, 2014 - 12:07am PT
What is wrong with this dialog?


The Chief: KMAN: Cite your ref where the "Chief Prosecutor in Gitmo" himself, publicly, for the record, made that statement.


k-man: Got your reference right here brother:


The Chief: Morris speaks absolutely nothing regarding what I speak of regarding the Taliban and their brutality towards the local population.




The Chief, you look a little brain damaged here. My reference to Morris, as you asked, was to show his support for the release of the five Git'mo detainees. How did the reference suddenly morph into it being about your distaste for the Taliban and their brutality?


It's called non sequitur. A tactic you often employ when you have been shown to be talking nonsense.


Bedtime for Bonzo!
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Jun 4, 2014 - 01:43am PT
KMAN highly approves of the Taliban ideals and how they treat their women and children.
As opposed to, say, the warlords they displaced and who we've now restored to power. Prior to their excesses, the Taliban were originally accept as a better alternative to the warlords. Clearly two totally suck choices, but let's not make out like the alternative is any better.
Reeotch

climber
4 Corners Area
Jun 4, 2014 - 04:31am PT
Another unprecedented move by Obama.

4 high level terrorists released for one deserter. This doesn't add up. There is something we are not being told about this. Very fishy smelling.

couchmaster

climber
pdx
Jun 4, 2014 - 06:08am PT




VA issues? What VA issues? I read the news today and there aren't any VA issues. This kicked all that off the front page...and then some. LOL










rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jun 4, 2014 - 06:11am PT
sketch just had a myopic flashback...give him some slack.
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Jun 4, 2014 - 06:24am PT
Here's some more non-issues. Taken from the Obama administrations persecution of Col. Morris Davis, now going on it's 5th year since he resigned as the Gitmo dude for opposed torturing prisoners. The same Col. Morris who was named upthread as supporting this heinous trade. We don't need no stinking first OR 2nd amendment. Obama is going to put the man in jail for thought crime. Now THAT'S some "progress" "for you progressives).

"The government’s ability to limit free speech, to stopper the First Amendment, is perhaps the most critical issue our republic can face. If you were to write the history of the last decade in Washington, it might well be a story of how, issue by issue, the government freed itself from legal and constitutional bounds when it came to torture, the assassination of U.S. citizens, the holding of prisoners without trial or access to a court of law, the illegal surveillance of American citizens, and so on. In the process, it has entrenched itself in a comfortable shadowland of ever more impenetrable secrecy, while going after any whistleblower who might shine a light in. All that stands in counter to the government’s actions is the First Amendment, exactly as the Founders designed it to be."

Hope and change has arrived.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jun 4, 2014 - 06:30am PT
sketch...thanks..! what's next ? any new words.?
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 4, 2014 - 06:43am PT
VA issues? What VA issues? I read the news today and there aren't any VA issues.


How could there be? Scumbag Shinseki gone, problem solved.

Notice how quiet "regressives" in congress got as soon as they had a scalp?
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Jun 4, 2014 - 07:26am PT

The Chief, why do you make up such crap?

It's only okay when you (or your fellow travelers) do it?


Sketch, seems like you're saying I'm making up crap. Why stand behind a curtain and throw stones? Come on out and show your face if you have the fortitude. Show where I've made up crap.


Yet another passive-aggressive attack from Sketch, we know it so well.
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Jun 4, 2014 - 07:47am PT
I think some are making too much of it. It's a punchlist item,along the path of getting out of every war we've ever had for over 200 years.
We're getting out of Afghanistan and I'm happy for that.

Those that feel strongly about it? Time to get rid of those dam Black POW/MIA flags. Those certainly helped pressure the Adminstration to get this done. I know, I'll be making inquiries to see what can be done to get rid of the one in the park in front of my place.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Jun 4, 2014 - 07:58am PT
Oh man, not that again Sketch. I addressed all your points, (1), (2), and (3), directly. Do we need to drag everybody through it again? You want me again to post my answer to (2), it feels like I've answered that question directly over a dozen times.

I don't expect you to acknowledge my posts on this, because it's too easy for you to continue to post your crap over and over. And that is covered in the definition of "passive-aggressive" below, where is says, "misplacing important materials."


pas·sive-ag·gres·sive adjective


of or denoting a type of behavior or personality characterized by indirect resistance to the demands of others and an avoidance of direct confrontation, as in procrastinating, pouting, or misplacing important materials.



I know what it means. Indirect confrontation. Like you indirectly saying that I made up crap. Perhaps you should educate yourself on the behavior.
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