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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Aug 29, 2011 - 10:35pm PT
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Add to that the fact that it is so much easier to legally dodge taxes if you have the resources,
I don't deny that. Did you miss the part where I said NO EXEMPTIONS for wealthy people? No loopholes? Same for corporations like GE!
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apogee
climber
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Aug 29, 2011 - 10:41pm PT
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"Did you miss the part where I said NO EXEMPTIONS for wealthy people? No loopholes?"
The Party you tend to vote most consistently with (notice I didn't call you a Republican) considers that a tax increase...you do realize that, don't you?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Aug 29, 2011 - 10:57pm PT
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Apogee, it depends on who you talk/listen to in the party.
You know where I stand. And yeah, this is why Neocons suck.
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donh
Social climber
los angeles,ca
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Aug 29, 2011 - 11:19pm PT
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at a&m
perry was a member of the Corps of Cadets
a junior yell leader
a senior yell leader
and an animal science major
god bless this idiot
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Aug 29, 2011 - 11:21pm PT
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and an animal science major Hmmmm......wonder how he got through Biology and Genetics without believing in Evolution
Suspension of disbelief?
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Aug 30, 2011 - 10:34am PT
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How did he get through those courses High Traverse? Well lets see....oh, I know, he went to Texas A&M.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Aug 30, 2011 - 11:14am PT
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Just pisses me off the lack of respect. I'd still like to know why he despises me..
get outta there Skully, somebody's gonna lose an eye111666!!!
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Aug 30, 2011 - 11:16am PT
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in the same way that hemorrhoids are entertaining?
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Aug 30, 2011 - 11:29am PT
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PS. I'm kind of a Republican in that I like small government that doesn't spend a lot of money. Rick Perry scares me.
Spider, I don't mean this as an attack, but this description of Republicans is part of their "Big Lie". This is their rhetoric, and what they sell, but it is not what they practice in real life when give the chance.
The most recent example of Perry. Our recent Governator. Palin. Bush.
You've seen all the graphs of Repub president budgets. The same in all the states.
It's rhetoric, that means nothing, because it's designed to bring people in, but never be acted upon.
Even the Great Libertarian, Ron Paul, now the Chairman of the House Financial Services Subcommittee on Domestic Monetary Policy and Technology. It was a BIG DEAL whether he would get this Chairmanship, because he has been a huge critic of the Fed, making all sorts of threats, wanting to abolish it, investigate it, etc. So now he has complete power over it, and can haul them in front of him anytime to explain anything. And what has he done? N O T H I N G ! ! ! ! All hot air and bluster. All BS and smoke.
Typical Republican entertainment, to pull people in to the tent for the show. Timeworn hucksterism.
So you may be a person that likes small government that doesn't spend a lot of money, but I don't know what that is, it is NOT a Republican.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Aug 30, 2011 - 11:59am PT
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Rootin' Tootin' Rick Perry drank Sarah Palin's milshake. He drank it up!
The cheerleader ate the barracuda's lunch, stole her Teahadist base. Well played, Mr Perry, well played indeed. While Sarah was going for the fashionably late, debutant entry to the Ball, Perry snuck in the side door and DRANK HER MILKSHAKE. Poor Sarah, TV show canceled, the rabid base 22%-ers are in for Bachmann-crazy-overdrive and Rootin'-Tootin'-Rick, leaving Sarah with nothing but a big 'ol pot of Moose Stew.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Aug 30, 2011 - 12:02pm PT
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^^^^^^^^
now THAT's funny
and apt
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apogee
climber
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Aug 30, 2011 - 12:06pm PT
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"...it depends on who you talk/listen to in the party."
bluering, show me a quote from any current Republican who is in leadership (or simply a pundit) who believes changing the tax code so as to create equity is a good idea. More to the point, show me such a person who has actually taken action in that direction (without being crucified, excoriated, and excommunicated by the GOP).
The goal of the GOP is to 'starve the beast' of all tax revenues, and force reduction in government. A tightened tax code would simply preserve & increase revenues to the Fed. The GOP has no such interest.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Aug 30, 2011 - 12:12pm PT
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too bad we can't just shoot em when they get too upity
Yeah, Dick Cheney retired, so our "shoot em in the face" Republican is out of commission.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Aug 30, 2011 - 12:24pm PT
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Cheney'd better watch out his new book putting the blame on everyone else. General Colin Powell is gunnin' for Cheney. And I hear he's a durned good shot.
Cheney's Vietnam war record from Wikipedia
When Cheney became eligible for the draft, during the Vietnam War, he applied for and received five draft deferments He was happy enough to send our boys and girls to Iraq.
Now we return to our regular programming: Rick Perry
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Aug 30, 2011 - 12:26pm PT
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Apogee makes an excellent point:
What people say they stand for, and who they actually Do, are very different.
This is the definition of hypocrisy.
Republicans SAY they stand for fiscal "responsibility", yet when in power they spend money and drive up the national debt at a rate MUCH higher than Democrats.
Republicans SAY they stand for "less government" and "personal responsibility", yet they
want to pass MORE big government legislation to tell people who they can marry and who they cannot can and cannot give birth to.
Republicans SAY they want "smaller government", yet when they are in power they grow the size of the Federal government and use no "pay as you go" to fund their pet programs.
Republicans SAY they are "all about jobs", yet after eight months in control of the House they have passed ZERO "jobs" legislation, while managing to focus on the huge issues of defunding Planned Parenthood and National Public Radio.
There is not enough bandwidth to continue with more examples................
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Aug 30, 2011 - 02:35pm PT
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Aug 30, 2011 - 03:20pm PT
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Sorry, Zzzzzzzz....... bluey, I'm not a big fan of Christopher Hitchens, but did you read the article?
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Aug 30, 2011 - 04:09pm PT
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Nice dilemma Fatty, no self professed republican can show support for a prominent athiest in a public forum. That comes off worse than supporting ending tax cuts for the rich.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Aug 30, 2011 - 05:27pm PT
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Republicans SAY they stand for "less government" and "personal responsibility", yet they
want to pass MORE big government legislation to tell people who they can marry and who they cannot can and cannot give birth to. And they claim to want a free market place--no or limited regulation. Yet they want to create more regulation by passing government (i.e. Republican)-sponsored legislation that limit or prohibit an individual's right to sue businesses when they've been injured by them.
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