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Mimi
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Jul 30, 2011 - 01:14am PT
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It is very strange about this limbing going on. Charcoal, boyscout juice? Lots of sawing? No way is that climebers. The Valley is becoming more vegetated if you look at its natural history. Everyone knows that proper pruning won't hurt the trees, but that doesn't warrant cutting limbs on climbing trails by knuckleheads.
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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Jul 30, 2011 - 01:41am PT
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hey gerber-
yer kind of a dick.
just sayin.
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Mimi
climber
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Jul 30, 2011 - 01:51am PT
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That's a drag, Mike. There's a way to prune and then there's hacking and leaving a mess. The perp should be required to make amends. But what's with the charcoal in the forest? Was it the same guys?
munge, that is horrible for sure.
Gerb, with stretched resources, can't the climbing community help with the climbing trails? I'm glad the PS is focusing on the touron trails, with or without horses. They're getting the most traffic and need to be maintained. And horses are harder on trails than bikes. At least they used to be. Where's the trail crew equivalent to Face Lift? And aren't these Green jobs?
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jstan
climber
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Jul 30, 2011 - 02:15am PT
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The Forest and Park services clearly view volunteers as a real benefit and a connection to the people for whom they manage the areas. Mimi, I suspect neither of us has ever seen an interaction different from this.
I think safety can be an issue particularly when the volunteers are relatively inexperienced in handling tools. Furthermore if the group breaks into two parties there have to be at least a couple of people in the agency or very familiar with the agency's needs to keep things on track. All that said these interactions are hugely positive as seen by everyone.
After one has climbed for awhile, these efforts become more fun even than the climbing - I have found.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jul 30, 2011 - 08:04am PT
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Let me preface this by saying that I do not spend much times in national parks and am from the east where we have a sh#t ton of trees..
Show me a climber who claims to have never done any unoficial trail work and I will show either a liar or a lazy bum ;)
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Looks like the park will do a little trimming itself - - to the tune of 1000's of trees.
Given Jesses silence on this subject, we can probably assume he's just too damn busy running the chainsaw 24/7 to clear cut the 1000 and some odd trees to restore those all so important views for the folks.
God forbid any of us saw off a tiny branch that in no way disturbs the tree but which will stick the next fella walking that same path right in the eye. More bullshit from the government.
Hyperbole, hypocrisy and bureaucracy all in one thread.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
or some such
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If you get a stick in your eye, it means you're not paying attention.
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