D5 Open Source Hammer Project - It's Hammer Time!!!

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Ihateplastic

Trad climber

It ain't El Cap, Oregon

Nov 30, 2010 - 04:40pm PT

BurlyBob... You have my word. It has been set aside.

Simon

healyje

Trad climber

Portland, Oregon

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2010 - 04:52pm PT

So far we haven't posted up anywhere but ST to alert folks the hammers are available. I'm guessing the initial sales covered a good chunk of the folks who said they wanted one. But hopefully everyone here let's the more technophobic ST'ers who wanted one know this is happening so they can get one.

Shack

Big Wall climber

Reno NV

Nov 30, 2010 - 05:06pm PT

PhotogEC, don't know who you are, but you are obviously a relative newcomer to the hammer party, so (in the nicest way possible) stfu.

Here is Ed's post from February...

OK, the first and possibly only run of these hammers is for 250 heads. Given various issues with manufacture, there may be as few as 238 hammers...

right now, I have confirmed interest for 130 hammers, with a possible max interest in 206 hammers. There are people who have not previously shown interest that are now.

SO at some point we may actually run out of hammers... those who have not responded (see the list above) with their desire for some number of hammers should do so or risk someone else responding and getting in line ahead of them...

if you send email to me by whatever means always make sure to include your SuperTopo name, which is how my list is driven... while I know a lot of you, I don't know all of you.

You can also respond here, but I'd like to have your email to ease in communication. My mass emailings use a "bcc:" list so I'm the only one who can associate your email to your name to your SuperTopo avatar.

ONE MORE TIME: IF YOU ARE ON THE "HAVEN'T REPLIED" LIST PLEASE RESPOND OR RISK MISSING OUT ON THIS HAMMER

What, now that's all out the window?
Again, who is on the LIST, that has not responded?
Is this such a difficult question?
Did anyone bother to keep track?

Ihateplastic

Trad climber

It ain't El Cap, Oregon

Nov 30, 2010 - 05:35pm PT

Shack... Ed wrote...

I'm the only one who can associate your email to your name to your SuperTopo avatar.

That is the truth! I am processing credit cards and NONE of them seem to have crazy ST names on them. If people have INDICATED they were on a list then I have that info. So far the number of people who have INDICATED can be counted on 1.5 hands...

We still have APPROXIMATELY 100 hammers left so we are not scraping the barrel yet. I URGE all of you: If that know someone who WANTED a hammer tell them to get on ST and check this thread out ASAP. There is no reason for anyone to be left in the cold.

Read the following with a smile as I am not a mean person)
By the way... I once told a Bugatti dealer to set aside a Bugatti Veyron Super Sport for me as I really wanted one. Arsehole sold it without waiting for me to get filthy rich. Just cause I say I want something does not always mean I will carry through on what I said.

Shack

Big Wall climber

Reno NV

Nov 30, 2010 - 05:54pm PT

Maybe if you took the time to contact Ed, you wouldn't be so clueless.

I once told a Bugatti dealer to set aside a Bugatti Veyron Super Sport for me as I really wanted one. Arsehole sold it without waiting for me to get filthy rich.

That is so weak.
If fictitious Bugatti dealer is an "Arsehole", what does that make you, to people who are actually on the list and have their hammers sold?

PhotogEC

climber

In front of my computer

Nov 30, 2010 - 10:32pm PT

you are obviously a relative newcomer to the hammer party, so (in the nicest way possible) stfu.

Been following the endeavor for a bit over a year, so yes, I am a relative newcomer, and I appreciate you breaking it to me gently. I also have complete respect for the fact that you are trying to ensure that those people who are most interested and closest to this project get a crack at these awesome hammers first, but I'm not sure what you expect of the organizers. Let's review what could be done:

1) Manufacture a bunch of kickass hammers, document the process, and alert everyone that they're almost done, and along the way accommodate requests like adding serial numbers and coming up with an equitable process to allow requests for specific numbers. DONE - Go Theron, Joseph and Simon!

2) Post a thread letting everyone on ST know that the hammers are almost done, and you can now place your order. DONE - Go Joseph!

3) Post links to Simon's site and this thread in other D5 threads. DONE - Go Joseph!

4) Send an email to everyone on the "intent list" who was interested enough to provide Ed with a valid email address earlier this year, with links to both this thread and Simon's site. DONE - Go Ed!

5) Keep this thread on the front page so that anyone interested in getting a hammer will see the thread and go order a hammer. DONE - Go, well, everybody posting up!

Don't get me wrong, again, I get that you're trying to ensure that the ST community members who want one of these get their orders in before the "general public" starts snapping them up, but there's gotta be a line on what you reasonably expect the organizers of this project--who are not making a dime and are doing this in addition to their work that is paying their bills--to do. God knows they've already done a ton.

If someone has missed all of he above, and they don't know someone else here well enough that they'd be given a heads-up, are they that interested? Really?

Personally, I'm letting select friends I know who will truly appreciate--and use--the craftsmanship in these hammers know they're available. I'd be surprised if everyone here wasn't doing the same, and I hope that every last one of these hammers goes to people who do appreciate them without Joseph and co. having to post anywhere else.

The organizers are big boys and can speak for themselves, but that's my $0.02.

Now, I'll stfu.

--Eric

Gene

Social climber

Nov 30, 2010 - 10:40pm PT

These bitch posts, no matter the source, must make all those who have given so much to make this project happen cringe and wonder WTF did they do all this for.

No good deed goes unpunished.

Cheers to the heroes of D5! I hope I can get my financial ducks in a row to get mine before they sell out. Thanks D5 guys for all you have done. Much appreciated whether I score one or not.

g

couchmaster

climber

pdx

Nov 30, 2010 - 11:14pm PT

That is so weak.
If fictitious Bugatti dealer is an "Arsehole", what does that make you, to people who are actually on the list and have their hammers sold?

uhhh, make joke shack. Perhaps jokes not in your country? HA HA?! Make sexy time with my mother in law?! Is not joke.

Insert laugh here_*___HAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Moving on. Hammer time.

Bump

Ihateplastic

Trad climber

It ain't El Cap, Oregon

Nov 30, 2010 - 11:17pm PT

THANKS! Gene

klk

Trad climber

cali

Nov 30, 2010 - 11:24pm PT

well, i was on the list and got an email from ed alerting me to the thread.

of course, since ed is getting so much dough from the margin on the hammers, he ought to do some serious research into st avatards to make certain that folks who used their 5th, 6th or 7th email addy to register for ST-- and who haven't been following the news --will get dibs.

frickin physicists.

suck all day on the taxpayers teat and then wallow in the sweaty money of honest working men.

if i don't get my bugatti/lanborghini/govt.surplushumvee/hammer#666 because it went so some frickin commie/nazi/jew/moslem with a real email address, i'm going to foam like a mad dog.

PhotogEC

climber

In front of my computer

Nov 30, 2010 - 11:24pm PT

Cheers to the heroes of D5!

Amen. Best quote of the entire thread.

Mighty Hiker

climber

Vancouver, B.C.

Dec 1, 2010 - 01:24am PT

wallow in the sweaty money of honest working men

Such as history professors, I take it?

klk

Trad climber

cali

Dec 1, 2010 - 01:49am PT

Such as history professors, I take it?

heh

Shack

Big Wall climber

Reno NV

Dec 1, 2010 - 03:10am PT

but there's gotta be a line on what you reasonably expect the organizers of this project

Exactly. Is it not reasonable to expect them to stand by their original intent?

If someone has missed all of he above, and they don't know someone else here well enough that they'd be given a heads-up, are they that interested? Really?

You realize that makes no sense, right?

What does how well someone is known have anyhting to do with how much they wanted a hammer? Really?

Disaster Master

Social climber

Born in So-Cal, left my soul in far Nor-Cal.

Dec 1, 2010 - 07:03am PT

Hi hammer-heads,

Just waiting for payday to order mine, if it's still there, otherwise any I can get...

-DM

couchmaster

climber

pdx

Dec 1, 2010 - 09:57am PT

Exactly. Is it not reasonable to expect them to stand by their original intent?

The intent was to build the hammers and toss a few extra bucks into a fund raising effort for Conrads Sherpas thing. At the end of the day Shack, Theron HAS to sell these hammer or he gets hosed. Folks don't get to yell "MINE" for 3 years with no deposit required without ponying up the money when it's time.

Perhaps if you want to take over the sale and the Mfg you could hold them until the cows come home for all the folks who thought they'd better say they wanted one....before they had the 2 kids, new house and got laid off at work. Oh sure, maybe they say that they would still want and pay for it, as soon as unemployment runs out and they go get another job.

That's the way it works in the stores, they sell stuff till they run out of it. Hopefully it works that way here. There's a hundred hammers they need to move, step up yourself and go hunt down those who you know needed one. Do your part and quit harassing folks working for free. Folks need to pony up the money. It's time.