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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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One time I was driving on a winding road, a car pulls out of a driveway and surprises me, I hit the breaks but dont think I skid. I didnt even know it but a motorcycle was right behind me. It was a guy on a brand new $20k harley davidson goldwing who worked for the dealership and was delivering it to the customer. So I hit the breaks and the next thing I know, thump thump thump, I come to a stop and this guy comes rolling off the roof of my car onto the front hood then onto the road in front of me. I was stopped by then but was really confused and thought I was running him over. My car wasn't scratched at all, the guy was ok, but the bike was totaled. It doesn't take much.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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There's a whole class of weapons from the late 19th and early 20th century known as "Bicycle Pistols" Generaly small caliber revolvers with extra features that enhanced portability like hammerless actions and folding triggers.
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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What's the big touring bike I'm thinking of with the big saddlebags? I called it a goldwing but am not too knowledgeable about them.
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John M
climber
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A cyclist nearly got me killed. He had no idea what he did wrong, even when I explained it to him. There is a traffic light at that intersection now, but cyclist ignore it and still cause accidents.
There are a whole lot of ignorant dumb asses out there. Since there are more autos on the road, they out number the cyclist. But stupid is stupid. In an auto or on a cycle.
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rockermike
Trad climber
Berkeley
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32,000 people killed every year in the USA in auto accidents. And some people are wagging their bony fingers at cyclists for not stopping at stop signs. ha
Personally, I always look carefully (I know, I'm the one who will die if I miss judge) and never stop if there is no cross traffic. It really pisses drivers off I know. get over it. It takes more energy to stop and start on a bicycle then it does to continue to cruse uninterrupted for another 1/2 mile. doesn't make sense to stop just for the sake of following the letter of the law. But that's just me.. ha
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John M
climber
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That cool rockermike. The next time a cyclist rides in front of me coming from a sidewalk where he was going the opposite direction of traffic while I am making a left on a busy highway.. I will just run him over rather then risk my life to keep from hitting him.
my life versus that fact that its harder to stop and start a bicycle. hmmm. sorry. you lose.
And by the way.. I don't give a sh#t if someone bends a few rules now and then, but they damn well better know what they are doing when they do it.
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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rockermike
32,000 people killed every year in the USA in auto accidents. And some people are wagging their bony fingers at cyclists for not stopping at stop signs. ha
Personally, I always look carefully (I know, I'm the one who will die if I miss judge) and never stop if there is no cross traffic. It really pisses drivers off I know. get over it. It takes more energy to stop and start on a bicycle then it does to continue to cruse uninterrupted for another 1/2 mile. doesn't make sense to stop just for the sake of following the letter of the law. But that's just me.. ha
John M
That cool rockermike. The next time a cyclist rides in front of me coming from a sidewalk where he was going the opposite direction of traffic while I am making a left on a busy highway.. I will just run him over rather then risk my life to keep from hitting him.
my life versus that fact that its harder to stop and start a bicycle. hmmm. sorry. you lose.
And by the way.. I don't give a sh#t if someone bends a few rules now and then, but they damn well better know what they are doing when they do it.
Whoa man John M, easy there bud. I run lights after looking both ways and making sure it is safe. I don't haul ass through them. I slow down to a California stop at the vest least to make absolute sure there is no traffic. If a car in my lane is making a right, I let them go. As the law of traffic should be.
I don't think rockermike is hauling complete ass blindly into cross-way traffic to save energy. He's saving energy by making a safe cross, without stopping.
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John M
climber
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And some people are wagging their bony fingers at cyclists for not stopping at stop signs. ha
If he wasn't speaking to me, then thats cool. But if he is trying to say I shouldn't complain when someone risks my life, then he can ......
I am more then willing to share the road. I use to ride. I was just trying to say that its not a one way street. There are stupid people who drive and there are stupid cyclists. It still gives me the willies to think how close I came to getting creamed by an 18 wheeler.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Time to flame away on this politician.
He thinks bikes give off more CO2 than cars and should be taxed accordingly.
WTF
Reminds me of Rush Limbaugh explaining that the problems in the US healthcare industry were the result of costs generated by treating thrill-seekers like rock climbers when they got injured.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Riding along PCH in Huntington Beach when i catch up to an older snobbish , yuppie couple with shiny , expensive litespeeds..They had matching swiss national team kits on and seemed annoyed that i was drafting them while invading their Sunday victory lap thru HB...?
....Then we are stopped by a red traffic light with no cars in sight for miles...I look both ways to make sure there's no po po or traffic and take off...As i roll away , the well dressed lady takes a parting shot at me and screeches at me in a whiny voice " dirty rider "....Can't wait to get back on the dirt...
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2013 - 01:32pm PT
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Lets not get to this point!
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Whoa man John M, easy there bud. I run lights after looking both ways and making sure it is safe.
Michael, are you doing that in California? If so, you need to look behind you, too. I've seen a great increase in red light running by cyclists and pedestrians both, mostly imports into California from parts east where right-turn-on-red is illegal.
What most red-light violators on foot or pedal ignore is that the right-turn-on-red option can kill a jaywalker(or jayrider [No personal implication meant, Jaybro!]), because the car turning right is concentrating on oncoming traffic, not on the person crossing illegally to his or her right.
John
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Yeah, I almost broad-sided a Bobcat when I blew through an unmarked stream crossing*.
Man, was he pissed!
*On a mt bike, mind you.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Drljefe,you sure are right.It is hard to believe.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2013 - 09:23pm PT
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Do people like that guy have absolutely no, self awareness?
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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I went out for a walk on Monday morning. Bike after bike after bike. More people are being forced to use bikes as transportation due to losing licenses, it seems like, as well as more people "baking an obivious green statement" and putting it where their mouths are. Yummy!
In France bicycles have their own code of conduct and a portion of driver's ed. is dedicated to bicycles and the rights they have on the road. Everybody is required to learn this. We could certainly benefit from that approach here as more and more people are attracted to bikes for general transportation purposes. In the Merced County Times yesterday I read a bit of an article on re-vamping parts of our bike path, extending the "sharrow lanes" and a bicycle awareness program by a local club aimed at drivers.
As to the above rider, the law says no bikes on sidewalks on Main St. It can be a $100 fine. We have "bike cops" who patrol irregularly downtown. It is clearly illegal for the rider to do what he's doing, but it happens ALL THE TIME! I've even done it a few dozen times myself...
No kidding, this was just yesterday morning in about one hour's worth of walking. It just happened and here's this rant. (Not really much of one, I'll agree.)
As it also just happened, Tommy, the guy in the first shot, was on his way to a bike show someplace and he came by and shined his bike up with glass cleaner and paper towels and we split a 40.
DY-NO-MITE!
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hellroaring
Trad climber
San Francisco
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When me on bike screams, yells, hollers at you in car milliseconds after what is usually a sudden unexpected "oh shit" I'm gonna die or get real messed up moment, it's less about anger than just plain fear. Kind of like those uncontrolled yelps if you take an unexpected whipper, or jumping out of your seat when the monster jumps out from behind the corner during a scary movie. Then after you take your first breath that's when you want to to throttle the inattentive and/or aggressive person behind the wheel. All sorts of idiots are out there, most but not all of them in cars. I would guess that most drivers are fairly clueless about the destructive power in their hands, and it doesn't matter whether Rush Limbaugh or NPR is on the dial because this dangerous ignorance crosses all spectrums. Those of us who know firsthand or have seen the nightmarish immediate aftermath know, if not haunted by what happens when a couple tons of metal, usually travelling at a high rate of speed, meets mere flesh and bone. I try to be a considerate rider and I don't intentionally hog a lane to be a dick, but if I am riding a little faster than you can jog and there are parked cars next to the curb then I take the lane and you my friend can wait or go around me. Anyone who has been doored knows what I am saying here. I'm all for peace in the streets especially since I the bike rider will more than likely suffer the brunt of any ill outcome. Just give me space, pay the f*#k attention to the task at hand...I'm wondering, has there ever been a Critical Mass style ride in the Valley?
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