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Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Sep 24, 2015 - 10:41pm PT

Exxon: The Road Not Taken
Exxon Confirmed Global Warming Consensus in 1982 with In-House Climate Models
The company chairman would deny their own climate models as unreliable while he campaigned to stop global action to reduce fossil fuel emissions.

http://insideclimatenews.org/news/18092015/exxon-confirmed-global-warming-consensus-in-1982-with-in-house-climate-models
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Sep 25, 2015 - 01:22am PT
edit: "...infrastructure requirements, labor resourcing or supply chains..."
Sounds to me like code, for world-wide open borders. Am I close?

No, what you fail to understand at a fundamental level is that any 'geo-engineering' attempt to effect global climate in any significant way would require funding, infrastructure, labor resources and supply chains of incredible scope and scale - i.e. is never going to happen. Just altering all our existing infrastructures, supply chains and behaviors in any significant way is a massive undertaking let alone a dedicated geo-engineering effort aimed at climate change.

Sure we speculate about it, study the ideas, and run micro-climate attempts with our fingers crossed when we get desperate for rain, but that's where it stops. The only exception I know of is China's Three North Shelterbelt Project which has planted billions of trees since 1978 to try and hold back the Gobi Desert (with questionable success).
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Sep 25, 2015 - 09:06am PT
From EOS Earth & Space Science News
courtesy of Jim Shirley of NASA, my old climbing partner

http://eos.org/articles/noaa-predicts-strong-el-nio

This mentions that a further update would be forthcoming by September 17, but I cannot find anything except this, which promotes BIG BLUE LIVE on PBS.


http://blog.conservation.org/2015/08/bracing-for-the-biggest-el-nino-on-record-how-climate-change-is-upping-the-ante/?gclid=Cj0KEQjw4ZOwBRDoxpjAvPXAl5MBEiQAEek_3v_HYFhsH0ODvrOUkWAIG-SwCqSajkhIBsm9qeNMSOkaAjoj8P8HAQ
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Sep 25, 2015 - 09:09am PT
looks easy from here

climber
Ben Lomond, CA
Oct 14, 2015 - 05:41pm PT
Anyone have any recent shots of Hetch Hetchy? Wondering how bad the ring is.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Oct 14, 2015 - 05:47pm PT
c wilmot

climber
Oct 14, 2015 - 06:14pm PT
can someone explain why one plane emits steam from its engines while another plane flying even higher does not?

I saw this the other day and I hate to say it...but chem trails kind of sounds plausible. It would be pretty easy to blend whatever in the fuels meant for regional distribution...got me
John M

climber
Oct 14, 2015 - 06:17pm PT
the atmosphere is not consistent. Different moisture amounts plus different temps mean contrails will form at different altitudes.

or its martians..

I'm never quite clear on the difference.
c wilmot

climber
Oct 14, 2015 - 06:38pm PT
thanks^ that makes more sense
10b4me

Social climber
Retired
Oct 15, 2015 - 07:39am PT

Oct 15, 2015 - 06:46am PT
Jeez folks around these parts are talking about El Nino like record setting rain is a given.

a jpl scientist says there is a ninety-five percent chance of El Niņo happening.
I will believe it when I see it.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Oct 15, 2015 - 08:35am PT
El Nino. First the winds will blow the roves off our houses, then it will dump 5" in 20 minutes.
With all the forest fires, the raging rivers will be brown with precious top soil.

Yeah, these things are possible I suppose.

Right now, what we need is scattered showers, for a few weeks, so the little plants can take root and
hopefully keep some of the soil in place if it does dump.

Yosemite is getting thunder showers. So that's a good thing. Right now, though, lightening is a scary thing.



+1 on the Chem Trail switch! It looks pretty unused though.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 15, 2015 - 10:54am PT
Lotta white showin'! I'm guessing 100'?



I think this is Folsom and it is lookin' a tad dry...
couchmaster

climber
Oct 15, 2015 - 12:18pm PT

You guys see how much of the Rice crop was lost in Cal. last year due to drought? I saw 25% on a .gov site. I'm not going to go fish out the link) Since it's a $5 billion crop, that represents $1.25 BBBBBillion BBBBucks.

Wow, I think more of those folks (predominatly north of Sacramento) are shifting into Olives as it's a tree more in tune with dry hot weather.
squishy

Mountain climber
Oct 15, 2015 - 12:30pm PT
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 15, 2015 - 12:35pm PT
DMT, I knew you had my back. But it was an 'F' dam! ;-)
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Oct 17, 2015 - 02:35pm PT
*
Nice to finally get a bit of rain today in Chico..

Webcam yesterday in Yosemite
Nice to see the webcam today..(-;
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Oct 18, 2015 - 12:25am PT
Some impressive waterfalls coming off Hammer Dome DMT. Maybe Salt Springs Reservoir gained several inches.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Oct 18, 2015 - 12:33am PT
lightening is a scary thing

Boy, I'll say. Sounds way scarier than any bright flashes of electrostatic discharge...

lightening
[lahyt-n-ing]
Spell Syllables
Synonyms Examples Word Origin
noun, Medicine/Medical
1.
the descent of the uterus into the pelvic cavity, occurring toward the end of pregnancy, changing the contour of the abdomen and facilitating breathing by lessening pressure under the diaphragm.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Oct 18, 2015 - 01:25am PT
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Oct 18, 2015 - 09:40am PT
*
Yep, so good to see the change in the weather and some precipitation..Bring it!
This morning..Yeah!
Whiteness below 9000..(-;

DMT...Cool pictures..
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