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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Jan 11, 2013 - 09:45pm PT
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There is a different mindset amongst people in that community. I have a few friends who personally know James Yeager, who are VERY conservative, very pro gun, who think he's bat sh#t insane. Don't let one speak for all.
Thanks Chaz. Glad I didn't have to Google it though. Glad my elementary school education is still retained in my child like zipper head.
Bought my guide book, off to get some sleep for some flailing tomorrow.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Jan 11, 2013 - 09:46pm PT
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ah, if only it were one...
The point being, not only is he allowed to own guns, he instructs others on how to use them. People like that SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO HAVE GUNS.
PERIOD!
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Jan 11, 2013 - 09:47pm PT
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If ya believe that, yer a sucker Chaz.
They were not afraid to go against our military, why the hell would they fear pea shooters. They savagely went after any insurgent activity, including going after innocent civilians.
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Jan 11, 2013 - 09:48pm PT
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James has plenty of experience shooting guns, from all different positions and situations. He's a VERY EFFECTIVE INSTRUCTOR.
How is what Chaz wrote make him a sucker?
Facts are there. Why else would they have stopped? They toppled our only Navy in the Pacific (Aside from our Carriers which moved to a different location right before the attack).
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Jan 11, 2013 - 09:48pm PT
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ksolem wrote:
Sorry for the wandering post, but regarding the Bill of Rights, and the concept that the 2nd amendment is there so the people can defend themselves against a tyrannical government, it is quite clear that in today's world citizens fighting with small arms against our military is not a viable option (I think though that this is more about food and water than the weapons.) But, a government which supports the responsible ownership and use of arms is a government which respects and has trust in the people.
It is not a question of whether or not there is a "concept" there, what is written is what there is... and it doesn't say anything about rebellion or tyranny... or about individuals defending such or the "trust" of the government in the people...
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
where is there talk of tyranny, rebellion or individuals?
It's "We the People..." not "Me the Person..." after all...
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jan 11, 2013 - 09:49pm PT
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Monolith writes:
"If ya believe that, yer a sucker Chaz."
Top Dog of the Jap Navy. I don't know, Monolith. Maybe your personal imagination is more accurate than historical documentation.
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crankster
Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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Jan 11, 2013 - 09:49pm PT
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NRA peddles fear and paranoia. The weak minded are easy targets.
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Jan 11, 2013 - 09:52pm PT
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I'm very scared and paranoid.
My WASR-4 killed nobody today.
Must be defective.
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Jan 11, 2013 - 09:53pm PT
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Sigh. Okay I'm gonna go fantasize some more then. Goodnight.
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Jan 11, 2013 - 09:54pm PT
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Micheal, take up your employer's offer to pay for some education. A community college will do you some good.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Jan 11, 2013 - 09:55pm PT
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Thanks Chaz. Glad I didn't have to Google it though. Glad my elementary school education is still retained in my child like zipper head.
Home schooled... right?
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jan 11, 2013 - 10:15pm PT
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I dunno, Monolith ( jghedge )
I have multiple non-Wiki sources, all saying that quote was indeed uttered. You want to try to prove a negative?
Yamamoto's advice was certainly heeded.
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Jan 11, 2013 - 10:16pm PT
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That's your logic?
His fear was 'waking the sleeping giant' who could mobilize a huge industry to make planes, tanks, ships. Nothing to do with the pea shooters a citizen might have.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jan 11, 2013 - 10:18pm PT
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Hahahaha
That's about as long as you'd last as a grip
Even if you kept your mouth shut.
Yeah, I'm vastly overqualified for furniture moving.
And,
I can't help but feeling a bit sorry for anyone stuck in a job where "Keeping your mouth shut" is a prerequisite unless it involves national security.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Jan 11, 2013 - 11:02pm PT
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haha... yeah, the Japanese were frightened because of civilian guns... hahaa... and yet, somehow, we are being invaded by Mexico according to Rong.
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jstan
climber
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Jan 11, 2013 - 11:10pm PT
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A commentator on NPR observed today that negotiations with the NRA tend not to be "feel good exercises."
It is such a treat to run into people who are not the functional equivalent of a zip lock bag full of testosterone. And, and, and with normal neurological capabilities.
Oh, and with regards to my post asking if guns have not become a fetish. Somewhere above someone posted a youtube showing four bikini clad women firing and explaining the features of four leading assault weapons.
I think I have the answer to my question.
Oh, and some other stuff of interest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6_JpPvWCAQ
Modern flame thrower.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkFU7o3IAaM
And then there is the A10. Fires 8000 rounds a minute of depleted uranium. In full firing the plane almost comes to a stop in the air.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laNhSU-9XB0
You guys can handle this with tech 9. No problem.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jan 11, 2013 - 11:50pm PT
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In the spirit of posting links for those who do not realize a world exists outside of www.*
I've never heard of this young guy, Ben Shapiro before but he seems damn intelligent and very articulate under heavy MSM troll fire. A rare combination this country needs.
Check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiU8dyEYyGg
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jan 12, 2013 - 12:12am PT
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Very astute analysis there Christ..... I expected more 'idiot' and 'd#@&%es' but that will do. Bravo!
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Jan 12, 2013 - 12:15am PT
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Can't expect much more given the quality of the material I had to work with.
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