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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Oct 30, 2011 - 01:51pm PT
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I think the protests make a lot of sense.
The U.S. took a punch in the face far worse than 9-11 in the banking meltdown.
Nobody is being prosecuted, although fraud was obvious and widespread.
If the financial lobbyists and the boards of Fannie and Freddie were muslims in Yemen, we would be killing their asses with drone strikes.
I don't think you can argue against that.
It's the manner of the protests that disgusts me.
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BASE104
climber
An Oil Field
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Oct 30, 2011 - 02:21pm PT
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I know Bluey. I about gagged over the Tea Party popping up from the "deficits don't matter" party, but you have to respect the protest. The protest and right of assembly should be sacred as long as it is peaceful.
Shooting protestors is what they do in Iran and Syria.
As Americans, we have to support the protest even if you can't stand what they are saying.
It would be a crappier country if nobody got pissed off enough to go carry signs.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Oct 30, 2011 - 02:32pm PT
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ACORN is behind these hippie protestors.
ACORN bused them in and paid them to protest.
I have it from good source that they are mostly Anchor Babies.
Send them all back to Mexico.
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BASE104
climber
An Oil Field
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Oct 30, 2011 - 02:45pm PT
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I don't think that the constitution has a time limit for peaceful assembly, Fattrad.
Really. Like this or not, it is part of who we are, or should aim to be.
Said it above: they shoot protestors in Iran and Syria.
Hell, we don't have that great of a record when it comes to dealing with protests. Kent State. Chicago Democratic Convention. Dead Civil Rights marchers.
I dunno. I read a very exhaustive book on the roots of the financial meltdown. The lobbyists, along with Fannie and Freddie, were able to do practically anything they wanted with impunity.
"All the Devils are Here." Great book. It names tons of names. Nobody has spent a day in jail. They are still all rich.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Oct 30, 2011 - 03:04pm PT
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Well, I think these protestors just want to take some of my money from me.
I may not make over 500K a year, the 1% group, but it still scares me to death.
I just know they want to somehow take my money.
Besides, I am against any kind of "change", and especially "hope".
Why why why can't people just leave everything the way it is?
I mean, I have a job and my life is going good, don't they get it?
It's all about ME, not them.
Stupid hippies
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Dave
Mountain climber
the ANTI-fresno
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Oct 30, 2011 - 05:27pm PT
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That's not why many of us are against OWS, d-bag. Yeah, the banks suck and got bailed out. Old news.
OWS are taking up public resources and looking like idiots while asking for themselves to be bailed out by this fictional 1%.
America is about hard work. The "1%", and everyone else on the way up, or who has to deal with the traffic jams these idiots cause on their way to work, is making their own little piece of America, and making their own change. You make your own opportunity or you get left behind by your own decisions.
Anyone who built a company or built their own nest egg or is trying to, chafes at what these idiots are "protesting" against.
If these protestors had a brain they'd be in DC, protesting against the K-street lobbiest machine. If they really want to change the root cause of what they are bitching about, go tie up DC. Not Oakland, Denver, Memphis, and all the other places where the rest of us are trying to actually get something accomplished.
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BASE104
climber
An Oil Field
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Oct 30, 2011 - 05:27pm PT
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Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Oct 30, 2011 - 05:34pm PT
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If these protestors had a brain they'd be in DC, protesting against the K-street lobbiest machine.
Umm, that is what they are protesting about (the idea that most of them want handouts is laughable and shows an attempt to ignore reality). Why does it have to be in DC?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Oct 30, 2011 - 05:35pm PT
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Dave, mind showing a link, source, showing that a core ideology of the OWS protest is asking to have the richest 1% "bail them out"?
I have not seen any signs or interviews of the protestors asking for the 1% to give them any money, or to legally or illegally "take" any money from anyone else.
Oh I suppose with hundreds of thousands now protesting all over, there probably is some idiot with sign asking for money, but that's like saying all Tea Party people come to rallies wearing guns, we know not all of them are like that.
Seeing as there is no recognized national leadership, curious where you got this?
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corniss chopper
climber
breaking the speed of gravity
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Oct 30, 2011 - 05:42pm PT
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What is Inciting a Riot?
A riot is essentially thought of as mob mentality. A riot can occur as the
direct result of many things, and can certainly be blamed on one
individual. Noted historical psychological authority, Sigmund Freud viewed
crowds as crazed, criminal, unanimous masses of anonymous individuals who
had ceded psychological control of themselves to the group mind and whose
behavior was being directly controlled by the mob.
http://disorderlyconductlaws.com/inciting-a-riot/
Weeding the violent rioters out from the peaceful protesters is a job for the police.
Check out what happens to this Denver OWS bozo who pushes a motorcycle cop
over as he goes by. Big mistake. So many strange looking people at the Denver protest.
http://tv.breitbart.com/occupydenver-thugs-knock-motorcycle-cop-to-ground/
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Oct 30, 2011 - 05:47pm PT
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The protestors are filthy trust fund pigs waiting for a catalyclismic trickle down moment...Send em back to the corner Starbucks...
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Oct 30, 2011 - 05:50pm PT
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by contrast, the good folks at Tea Party rallies had no inclination to violence
No talk of "we came unarmed THIS TIME"
Nope, they all just woke up on January 21, 2008 and discovered they all had been having trouble sleeping, what with being worried about Federal spending and all, so stressful
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Oct 30, 2011 - 05:59pm PT
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Corniss demonstrates his usefulness to society
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Oct 30, 2011 - 06:29pm PT
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Howard Stern? Really Cornhole Chomper, HOWARD F*#KIN" STERN. Oh get real.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Oct 30, 2011 - 06:39pm PT
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Nope, don't see anything about the OWS "movement" stating that they want to "take" money from the 1% super rich.
No one is talking about passing legislation to take money away from the 1% and then turn around and hand it out to the 99%.
And both articles were clear that there is no movement leadership.
No one "speaks" for the protestors. They have no cohesive voice.
Right now, they are just regular Americans of many diverse colors and ethnicities who are protesting what they see as government bailouts for Wall Street ( Bush gave them 900 billion) when the housing market derivatives eroded.
And yes, as I mentioned previously, with hundreds of thousands protesting all over, of course there will be people with signs saying they personally want all kinds of things.
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Dave
Mountain climber
the ANTI-fresno
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Oct 30, 2011 - 07:13pm PT
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Tell me, Norton, who exactly is going to pay for Demands # 3,4,6,7, and 11?
You didn't read the first link, did you? OWS is organized. They have a committee. LOL. Change you can believe in?
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