Armed Militia Takes Over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge HQ

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overwatch

climber
Jan 27, 2016 - 10:16am PT
others —and every one of those episodes was deemed justified,

Tell that to Randy Weaver
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 27, 2016 - 10:16am PT
Digging their own graves with a Cat 320D.

Well you gotta hand it to them on that one.

Can't fix stupid.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 27, 2016 - 10:20am PT
Digging their own graves with a Cat 320D.

Well you gotta hand it to them on that one.

Can't fix stupid.

Nobody has a friggin hardhat on. Someone needs to convene a safety meeting

Edit: live press conference http://koin.com/koin-video-extras/

Militia live stream, keeps restarting

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kattz

climber
Jan 27, 2016 - 10:20am PT
A few villages in Altai mountains now have internet (not Mongolia, but fairly close to border), people even work from home there...

I still think US is the best country in the world, and its public lands happens to be the some of the best it has to offer.
John M

climber
Jan 27, 2016 - 10:28am PT
WTF.. from what I understand, nature doesn't make money off of sushifests. he charges break even rates. That stuff is expensive. He isn't breaking any rules that I know of. You should try understanding the spirit of those kinds of rules. Even cops understand this. I know quite a few police officers, and even though in many places gambling is illegal, they won't bust a home game where gambling is happening, because the purpose of the game isn't to make money for the house. Its for a few friends to get together. The same is for Nature's sushifests.

That is not equivalent to what the hammonds have done. In no way. So you are creating a false equivalency.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 27, 2016 - 10:44am PT
I shouldn't even bite but why not... I'll let the stupid play itself out.

I don't "charge" for anything. We're a group of friends getting together and people pitch in either by helping, bringing food, or contributing for the food. It's a private event. To some that's called a pot-luck. Ever have one? Get a permit?

I didn't know I needed a liquor license to share saki with my friends. Better tell Donini about that next time he shares a bottle of wine with someone. Better not offer someone a beer w/o a liquor license.

It's not a business and thus no need to report to the IRS. Though if I were to report I'd be reporting at a loss. I always never make money, rarely even break even, and usually loose out.

As it's friends getting together to make dinner no county health codes are considered. I've checked (and I've had a license to operate in the past - I know the rules).

And BTW... States don't issue business licenses - cities do. FAKT.

Two years ago I was contacted by BLM in regards to the event. Nice lady. After disclosing exactly what was going on she said, "sounds like fun - mind if I stop by? I love sushi". Now when we held the event in the Coconino National Forest we had to secure a special use permit - they wanted to make sure we had outhouses. And here again the ranger I worked with wanted to stop by and join us.

Nice Try.

FALE.




Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 27, 2016 - 10:47am PT
what???? no

SUSHIGAZI!!!!!
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 27, 2016 - 10:58am PT
Haha... eKat I forgot about that BLM guy.

One of the first nights of Flagstaff SushiFest we had someone else camped close and I was worried about the noise we were about to make. So I called up the woman at the FS that issued our permit and asked what I should do. She said if they complain to give them her card and have them call her - she'd explain we have a permit and to deal with it. Cuz'... you know.... we got the band back together.


WAR PIGS!!!



Edit:
LONG LIVE NATURE GOIN' BROKE ON SUSHIFESTS!

Well now that I no longer have my salaried job (after eight and a half years) we're gonna be aiming for a little closer to the break even line ;-)
Slabby D

Trad climber
B'ham WA
Jan 27, 2016 - 11:01am PT
Good to see that they haven't run out of snacks yet. It's gonna get rough when the Cheez-Its dry up.


Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Jan 27, 2016 - 11:21am PT
Back to the insurrection

The folks arrested are in the Inverness Rd jail near PDX airport and will be arraigned at 1:30 at the federal courthouse downtown at 1:30 PM.
zBrown

Ice climber
Jan 27, 2016 - 11:22am PT
FBI officials say any vehicles approaching the checkpoints will be stopped and searched, and all occupants of the vehicles must present identification. Law enforcement officials said in a press release early Wednesday morning they will arrest anyone who is not compliant with the checkpoint procedure


Huh?

Random poking around on the internet.

Twenty-five-year-old Bradley Stroot is one of several campaigners to go public, after the Guardian revealed an FBI investigation that labeled them “environmental extremists”, with new allegations of a continued crackdown. From an hours-long detention at the US border to a home visit by a terrorism task force and an encounter with police searching for bombs, the activists say law enforcement has tracked them from a peaceful Texas protest of the highly contentious oil project in 2012 and 2013 to the tony suburbs of Indianapolis as recently as the end of last year.


http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/08/keystone-protesters-fbi-watchlisted-terrorism
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Jan 27, 2016 - 11:41am PT
Where's Ron Anderson to give his commentary to twist all these lame azz lazy armchair do nothing wannabee crankloon quarterbacks in this thread.

The chief would be great too.

You stoopid crankloons ban everyone to make your boring drooling stupid little cliche group all the same and end up looking like drooling zombies .....

oh my god, I agree with a duck.

the loss of life is sad. but I cannot believe it was anyone's choice other than his. The FBI were very careful in how they handled this. fact is if you play with guns you might get shot. as sad as it is.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Jan 27, 2016 - 12:25pm PT
Majid S,

you nuked your thread from yesterday. How come?

It's a conversation worth having, imo.

I was curious and would like to follow up.

(1) Are you yourself Muslim?

(2) If so liberal Muslim? just curious.

(3) What do you make of Asra Nomani?

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Asra Nomani, hero or villain?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWNv97yq4Fc

http://mail.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2757232&msg=2757243#msg2757243
slabbo

Trad climber
colo south
Jan 27, 2016 - 12:36pm PT
I have to comment on the Sushi stuff....I know a sushifest in penitente a few years was w/o issue..It was in fact a BLM sanctioned event. It wasn't for profit, for anyone..not Nature,,not the brewery .. not petzl or any of the sponsors and certainly not for anyone helping a rebolt effort

silly to compare
monolith

climber
state of being
Jan 27, 2016 - 12:51pm PT
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 27, 2016 - 01:16pm PT
Looks like the Wal-martyr's are not ready to give up on their dream:

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rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jan 27, 2016 - 01:17pm PT
"Drooling Zombies"; an apt description.

Let's hope none of the brain dead here develops independence of thought, witnesses injustice, and takes a stand for freedom. If this unlikely event should ever occur, let's just hope you pick a more appropriate venue for your stand than the protester gunned down yesterday.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Jan 27, 2016 - 01:33pm PT
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jan 27, 2016 - 01:36pm PT
"Yeah a sushi fest that skirts laws is no different than a cattleman who breaks laws. "

Oh for f*#ks sake.
Gary

Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
Jan 27, 2016 - 01:42pm PT
These guys aren't the sharpest tools in the shed. They were dealt a bad hand and played it badly, sure, but we who are more fortunate have to think "there but for the grace of god."
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