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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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Jun 10, 2012 - 12:49pm PT
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Weird how serious marijuana is, even talking about this feels like I'm part of a conspiracy. Luckily, I was not involved. Meanwhile, this forum is about climbing up the sides of cliffs, deaths on Mount Everest, unroped solos, R-rated 5.12s, and so on. And the occasional sandbag. A lot more serious than some dudes selling weed. No doubt its a very serious story but can't compare to falling thousands of feet to your death.
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zBrown
Ice climber
mercenario de merced
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Jun 10, 2012 - 01:31pm PT
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I am a smart American.
Evidence?
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hamie
Social climber
Thekoots
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Jun 10, 2012 - 11:01pm PT
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First post May 21, 2005.
That's over 7 yawns ago.
Ooops, I meant years!
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 12, 2012 - 01:52am PT
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Another of those at the lake found what appeared to be the wallet of someone that had been on board the aircraft. Not feeling comfortable about just leaving it to lay, when he made his way back to the Valley, he placed an anonymous phone call to Chief Law Enforcement Ranger, Lee Shackleton. He explained what he had found and wanted to turn it in, but was afraid of being arrested for being up at the lake. Shackleton and the caller agreed that the wallet could be left at a phone booth of the caller’s choice to be retrieved by Ranger Shackleton. Shackleton (told to the author) said that this was the one time in his +30 years of law enforcement that he let someone go so he could get a piece of evidence that was greater than the guy that was turning it in.
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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Jun 12, 2012 - 06:32am PT
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That dude turning in the wallet was playing with his life. Saw a base jumper die in the valley once, made the mistake of telling the rangers so they could do a body recovery. They put me in a small room and gave me a cup of coffee before questioning me. I'll send an anonymous note next time I think they need my help.
Licky did you ever get police or DEA reports about this incident? Should be available through the Freedom of Information Act.
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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Jun 12, 2012 - 07:25am PT
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Will this thread please die? It keeps the music off the front page.
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 12, 2012 - 10:00pm PT
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Yes Don...got doc from: USPS, DEA, Justice, US Customs, FAA, and NTSB not to mention the county Sheriff and Coroners. I have surveillance notes dating back to the early 70s, almost six years before the crash.
Funny thing was the DEA. They would not release any info until I could confirm that the two pilots were not DEA agents. How do you confirm that they weren't? That was an interesting dance.
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Jun 13, 2012 - 12:01am PT
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@Tobia NO!
Hey ric:
Are you workin' this thread or workin' on the book?
@Tobia - Chapter Two
If you can't Licky 'em, join 'em.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Captain...or Skully
climber
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Jun 13, 2012 - 01:26am PT
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Tobia, You are hilarious & awesome.
Thank you.
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Jun 20, 2012 - 01:51pm PT
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You cannot keep a good plan down or up.
NAVY RECOVERS 19,000 POUNDS OF DUMPED POT
SAN DIEGO — An aircraft carrier group recovered an estimated 19,000 pounds of marijuana that had been dumped into the Pacific Ocean over the weekend by three boats off the California coast, the Navy said Tuesday.
Nobody was apprehended, and the three boats sped off after dropping their load, said Lt. Aaron Kakiel, spokesman with Naval Air Forces Pacific.
Crews from the aircraft carrier Nimitz, guided-missile cruiser Princeton, Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron 6, Helicopter Maritime Squadron 75 and the Mexican Navy picked up 186 bales of marijuana that apparently were en route to the United States.
The Nimitz Strike Group is operating in the Pacific Ocean off the Southern California coast conducting carrier qualification operations.
“The coordinated response of all hands involved was phenomenal,” Nimitz Strike Group Commander Rear Adm. Pete Gumataotao said in a statement. “The combined efforts of each of our strike group components demonstrated the flexibility and capability that defines how we conduct business.”
Shortly before 2 p.m. Saturday, starboard lookouts on the Nimitz spotted two boats about four nautical miles away. When helicopter crews flew in for a closer look, they saw two 25-foot single-engine boats, which began dumping 80 black plastic bags, each filled with about 100 pounds of marijuana, the Navy said.
A little more than three hours later, an officer of the deck on the Nimitz spotted a third boat, which also dumped its load into the ocean. The bales were eventually transferred to the Coast Guard and brought to shore.
“This crew’s response was amazing,” Nimitz Commanding Officer Capt. Jeff Ruth said in a statement. “To operationally shift gears quickly and safely from carrier qualifications to a real-world response shows what true professionals work here.”
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Jun 20, 2012 - 01:54pm PT
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That sucks. Since the shipment didn't make it, them and their family's will be killed because they couldn't deliver.
Oh well.
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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Jun 20, 2012 - 02:39pm PT
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... picked up 186 bales of marijuana that apparently were en route to the United States.
... they saw two 25-foot single-engine boats, which began dumping 80 black plastic bags, each filled with about 100 pounds of marijuana, the Navy said.
Uh ... sorry I meant 80 not 186. Must have counted wrong the first time.
In any event, 186 is an odd number. I say there are 14 bales out there still floating around. Will wash up somewhere, eventually.
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splitter
Trad climber
Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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Jun 20, 2012 - 02:40pm PT
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zBrown- "19,000 pounds of maryjane dumped in P.O.!!
Doods, keep eyes peeled between sets for the next week or two. could = a payload of bong loads.
Use to hear of such happenings from surf buddies, bitd and recall one time at dusk as i approached the path up the cliff in front of Abs at Sunset Cliffs and a plus tide/high tide was starting to crash against the cliif this new cabin crewser of about 25-28 ft. long was getting sucked in and out with the shorebreak. It was obvious that it was going to strike the cliff and be busted to smitherins whithin a few minutes as the tide was rapidly rising. Everyone was just running around it and climbing up the cliff. I stopped and looked at it for a couple minutes or less. I was mainly focusing on the two big Mercury outboards. I think they were 200's or 250's. I figured someone was driving back towards OB and got to much inside cuz it was a big swell, way overhead. There is a channel right there between Abs(Abalones) & Subs(Submarines). I new it was going to be dashed to smitherines within about 10-15min.! I decided to just split.
I could have easily got someone to help me push it out and gone out aways and dropped anchor and came back, or tried to start it or whatever. It was abandoned so I could have laid claim to it. Those engines were prollie worth about $15,000/$25,000.00 each at least. It was a brand new boat and brand new engines.
Turns out that the next day there were bales all over the place. Evidently they jetisoned a bunch as they were coming towards shore, and a bunch more were stashed in the boat. I didn't surf the next day so lost out. But several of my friends did score.
I use to surf the Cliffs whenever they broke. That was happening every so often up and down the San Diego shoreline including the Cliffs. Still is. They panic like that fairly often. I could have had a new boat with twin Mercury outboards at least. Still kicking myself in the ass. Obviously it stil had gas in it. An i imagine they may have left the keys init since they were not going to need them. I would have jumped in and went for it. Criminal that i am. And I had my surf board and wetsuit if I got into troubleor ran out of gas offshore headed back to the Jetties/channel!
So is life. Actually it prollie would havechanged my destiny for life and I would now be a wanted man with a price on my head and fifteen bastard children and when I was eventually gunned down my obit would be posted here on ST and everyone would say bad things about me and say all those bastard kids of his are way better off without him and one less Dirtbag in the world, etc(like the Rodney King thread)!! lol
Just sayin...
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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Jun 20, 2012 - 02:44pm PT
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A new boat AND ... a lot of splainin' to do.
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splitter
Trad climber
Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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Jun 20, 2012 - 02:54pm PT
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DP, I have ran this through my noggin prollie a hundred times over the years. I would have taken it to mission bay via the channel/jetties. There are plenty of floating type anchors that people tye/anchor to just off shore. Simple to swim or paddle my board in. If coast guard stopped me I would just tell them the truth. I saw the boat and salvaged it. I didn't know what cargo it had!! I didn't suspect that there was dope on board, just thought that they got in over their heads and bailed. If i new there was dope, i would have been all over it/on top of it in seconds. Prollie would have left the boat right there, except those two outbords would have been a grand prize on Let's Make A Deal back then. It was stupid of me to just leave it there, regardless. I new the ocean and was comfortable in all conditions/surf. No big deal.
It would have been like winning the lottery and then some! Evidently primo weed also!
edit: cept, i am no longer a bad boy(lol)and i am glad i didn't decide to snatch it. cuz, like i explained above, sh#t happens and most likely would have went south for me...so, ya yer right, prollie would have had a lot of explaining to do!
it is just one of the events i occasionally(or at least use to)look back on when I was broke and wished i had taken advantage of or would happen again or...Wudevah!!
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Jun 20, 2012 - 03:09pm PT
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There is so much traffic coming up the coast now, human and pot that there is a lot more scrutiny. Oside harbor is home to a new OPD triple outboard RIB, it must have been bought with a Federal grant, must have cost 250k. I have never seen it out but Customs is up here with their offshore racer on a regular basis. I hear the smugglers are going way the hell offshore now.
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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Jun 20, 2012 - 03:15pm PT
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You would have been BUSTED and intense pressure put on you to plead guilty to a lesser charge, even if you didn't do it. Also, I bet they would have confiscated the boat as evidence. Good luck getting it back after that. So there you are, with your cup of coffee and a dime for the phone call, insisting its your boat but you don't know anything about the dope. I belive you, but do you think a jury would, after hearing half a dozen witnesses say you're the man? Way to scary for me. I like your other plan better, just be happy with one bale and hide it under your board. Surfs up people!
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splitter
Trad climber
Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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Jun 20, 2012 - 04:17pm PT
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"I like your other plan and just hide it under your board."
Actually they drug them on a tow line and if things went south so did the dope. simply let go of the line. And they used big paddleboards, not surfboards or typical typical longboards. plus, in case your wondering, i didn't personally smyggle anything. had friends that were dumb enough or desperate enough or hardcore enough to do it. They mainly went right across the international border. i had/have prollie gone across that very border a few hundred times by the time i was in high school. early on with my father who played the ponies and dogs at caliente. or when i went down to get my teeth fixed becaus i was a poor ass kid. and it ws about a quarte of the price and if you new what dentist to go to the were a lot better than the average dentist north of the border. And i started surfing , etc. down there on a weekly basis in high school.
The point being, you notice things. like they always switch guards at the exact same time everyday. For instance three 8 hour shifts. Let's say at
8:00am, 4:00pm, 12:00midnight. They were not about to pull someone over at 15minutes before their shift ended because whoever started the frisk/check would have to complete it and do the paperwork on it. So what does that tell ya? A very good friend of mine, Gary MacA-----, went through there like clockwork for a very long time. One time a guard stuck his hand in and put it on his chest to check his heart and made eye contact with him. He said his heart was pouding like a jackhammer. The guy just waved him through. But his luck ran out and he ended up doing a couple years in a low max facility in Arizona or Neveda(federal rap). He was in the same place as Joan Baez husband Richard Harris(i think that was his name)was cell mates with him. Plus it cost him every nickel he ever mde from it and more. He did turn his life around, went to college and graduatedwhen he got out. Prollie best thing that ever happened to him. I alredy mentioned Tony H. a good friend from High School. Got busted on the TJ side and spent nine months in the Mesa Prison in TJ. Hideous place. His cell mate got his guts ripped open by a shank and crwled back into the cell begging Tony to help him put his intestins back in his stomach. Died in Tony's arms. He wasn't much older than Tony.
Tony was busted with another kid i went to highschool with during our senior year in high school. The othe kids parents pid the initial $400.00 that the TJ police were requesting from each for bail. Tony's parents didn't want to pay that much and hoped to get a cheaper deal the next day plus wanted to teach Tony a lesson by leaving him in another day or two. When the got back a day or two later he was already shipped to the prison. Within the first couple months they had lost over $25,000.00 via phony Mexican lawyers. Like i said, he did a total of 9 months in that hell hole. He said there are people who live in there, pay to live in there so they can deal drugs. Totally corrupt. You can buy anything you want in there if you have the money. Everyone who could afford it had better buy/pay for protection, especially pretty young white boys. Tony was a different person when he came out of there.
So, there was absolutly no way I would hve ever ran dope. very stupid thing to do if you value your freedom and for that matter, life. Tonys dead cellmate was an American kid!
I wouldhave kicked the sh#t out of any friend I had who even thought aboutgoing acros the border with ny kindof contraband. I did buy keys in Ensenada many times and smoked and gave away the dope befor we returned. The San Miguel parking lot was an open market, as was downtown TJ, where you were approached all the time with people selling everything from bennies to weed to black tar h. I was just a pothead and i didn't even touch/buy that in TJ. You could not trust anyone there.
I remember two of my good surf bodies from highschool who were living next door to me while i was in college come baack from San Miguel in one of thems VW bug(four of them)with surfboards on top. As usual they scored some weed while they were there(it was so cheap for the best dope/$15.00-$25.00 a key). Evidently it was really good so they decided to take one lid/4 fingers/1oz back across the border by putting it in this square hole in one of the axles. What dumb shits. I could not believe it. I made a solid decision to never go surfing with them again across the border at that very moment. Total fools who could not be trusted. And they were UCSD honor students(two where).
Anyway they get pulled outof line and escourted to the check station. One guy frisks them and guards them while another annouces that he is going to get a drug dog. They all about sh#t their pants right then. Long story dshort, the dog runs around the car about 5-6 times stopping to sniff everything., but doesn't detect the bag of weed. Talk about lucky.
I never smuggled a damn thing. Fools business in my opinion. Plus i was to big a chiken sh#t to even think about it let alone do it. Especially back then. But I new and ran into many who had or did over the years.
And you could get weed very cheapon the US side of the border if you so desired. I think some of those people did it mainly for the adrenaline rush or something. Because it just didn't make sensetome. interesting to here about.
EDIT: i was referring to the lurkers that are evidently monitoring this thread , not you. sorry about that!!
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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Jun 20, 2012 - 04:36pm PT
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Me? Not hardly. My name is Paul Wolf, 202-431-6986. I live in Colombia half the year working on a lawsuit against the Chiquita banana company. Al Jazeera covered it, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONCTOiKT42U. Also google my name and "Press TV" and you'll see all kinds of other stuff I get involved in.
Living in Colombia and being fairly well known there becuase of the Chiquita case, I've been contacted by a number of serious drug traffickers. I gave a "know your rights" type seminar in the "patio" for extradictable drug traffickers, in Combita prison a few years back. Their cases are sort of interesting, but after dealing with a couple of them, I realize this is not the kind of person I want for a boss. These cases involved many millions of dollars and tons of cocaine each. They don't screw around with people sneaking over the border, they do it in one big shipment with millions spent in bribes to clear the path.
So don't worry splitter, you're secret's safe with me!
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