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10b4me
Social climber
Lida Junction
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perhaps we shouldn't build our homes in flood plains, or across earthquake faults, or in the fire zones,
yeah I know it's a free country, and all that, but there should be away to encourage people to not build in these areas. Why? Because many of these people who are burnt out, or flooded away, say they didn't know.
The developers who build on these floodplains, or fire prone areas are trying to tame nature. Nature doesn't need to be tamed
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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There's a great--if depressing--Planet Money podcast about the economics of flood insurance. It will leave you screaming. Because of the frequent, predictable, catastrophic flooding in the Mississippi drainage and others, private insurance companies made policies simply too expensive for most home owners. Ah, federal gov't to the rescue! Now, all tax payers get to fork over for the idiotic rebuilding in areas that are GUARANTEED to flood again and again as long as the rain shall fall. One bloke has been subsidized by the tax payer to rebuild something like 16 times! WTF? At least if you rebuild in a burned out area, that particular threat is unlikely to be repeated in one lifetime.
At least in California, we've got so much extra cash lying around to fight fires, it's no big deal to afford. I mean, it's not like we're building a $100 billion dollar POS bullet train that will never be completed or be self-sustaining, right? Sorry for thread drift.
Crossing my fingers for everyone fighting fires and whose homes are in danger.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there, say, timid... thanks for sharing... this helps me understand a lot... feel so bad for our beloved calif...
i used to wonder too, about a lot of this... now i understand better...
i kind of knew a little bit, about all that, and had wondered...
thanks again...
:)
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John M
climber
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Section 1. For the Ahtiests/non believers.. Nothing about God
100 years of fire suppression
Rising average temperatures ( whatever the reason.. I shouldn't have to say that, but I will )
Current Drought
building homes in high fire danger areas
Increased need for spending on fires without equal increases in spending on overall forestry budget = less money to spend on habitat enhancement ( meaning not just things like weed control, but also things like thinning )
Its a complicated system and we are currently behind the curve.
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Section 2.
A. Increased pressure from Disrespect for nature and the source of nature... God = most things are out of balance. We played god with our earth without a respect for the ultimate guide. I am not speaking about religion. Most religions have many things wrong, else why would Jesus tell his tribe that he had yet more things to tell them, but they weren't ready for them. If we had everything right, then what more would He need to tell us. End of scriptural lesson. This in no way means that religion has it all wrong. But evil has infiltrated a lot of religion, including christianity.
If you don't believe in God, you don't need to mock me. I already know that you don't believe in God. Thats is why I created a separate section. I fully respect Science. I don't believe that they have everything right. We are constantly learning new things which disprove old beliefs. This also in no way means that we know nothing. We are meant to be in a state of learning.
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that should stir the pot. LOL..
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canyoncat
Social climber
SoCal
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I burnt my toast this morning. I blame God.
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John M
climber
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I burnt my toast this morning. I blame God.
Its His/Her way for telling you that you shouldn't be trusted with something as complicated as a toaster. ;-)
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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DMT...I call BS on your assessment leaving out climate change as one of the causes of these fires...What caused the dry conditions ...? Draught , What caused the draught...? The screwball weather patterns...We've had aruund 7 smoky summers on the east side something that is a recent phenomena...People living in fire prone areas didn't just happen in the last 7 years...Correct me if i'm wrong but scandinavia temps in the 90's isn't normal...peace out...
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climbski2
Mountain climber
The Ocean
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Rick. Still sounds not great but glad it was not worse for you. No one hurt nothing irreplaceable lost. I suppose that counts as Lucky.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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I saw an article about the arsonists arrest Minerals. It will be interesting to see what motive twisted that screwball's pea brain to do such a thing. Some people lost everything.
Yeah, I was very lucky Derek. The neighbors not so.
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10b4me
Social climber
Lida Junction
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It will be interesting to see what motive twisted that screwball's pea brain to do such a thing. Some people lost everything.
I think some arsonists see other arsonists set fires, so they do it too, to see if they can get away with it.
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crusher
climber
Santa Monica, CA
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Rick,
Glad it was just your deck. Good luck with the winter rain/snow/floods now that the land has been scorched.
Rotting - what's going on up there by Crestview/Clark? Saw that on Inciweb but no details except lightening. Is it under control?
Speaking of Clark, I haven't been since a month or two after the fires went through there - I'm wondering if the underbrush and sage, etc. has grown back at all after 2 winters?
Best wishes for everyone still affected by the current fires!
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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crusher...don't know what's happening...just drove by and didn't see any smoke...that was after i heard arcularius was evacuated with 3 fires going...pouring rain this moment with more lightening and thunder...gonna email Cmac and rat Jody and DMT out for saying bad things to me....
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Timbers of Fennario
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Just evaced in Pilot Hill, CA. Rode my motorcycle through a wall of smoke with 15+ foot flames on either side of my driveway. My wife, baby and dog were ten minutes ahead of me. I barely made it. Hoping my house is covered in fire retardant and not flames.
Been thinking about joining the fire department lately. Really serious about that now.
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10b4me
Social climber
Lida Junction
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Allow insurance companies to refuse to offer home owners insurance in high risk zones
Wasn't aware this was happening. What is the incentive for the insurance company?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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original...Hope you get back to your home...
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crusher
climber
Santa Monica, CA
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Good luck Original...this just started today? Stay safe. What a horrible season so far...
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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That's cutting it a little too close Original. Hope you got out the irreplaceables.
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sempervirens
climber
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Increased pressure from Disrespect for nature and the source of nature... God = most things are out of balance.
How could you possibly know such a thing as disrespect for God being a cause of anything?
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there say, john M... nice share...
ahhh, this was fun, too...
i know you meant it well, :) as you've seen the pot stirred,
before:
--as to your quote:
that should stir the pot. LOL..
it always happens in the best of kitchens...
;)
worldwise--man vs earth:
sadly, things have been 'over tampered with' that it
has that bad 'snowball down hill' effect ...
:(
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