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lazydays
climber
Nazareth, PA
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Aug 30, 2013 - 09:08pm PT
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@ Kelly and Split Pants
Not sure if you had this info for map/documentation. This is from an email I rec'd from someone who was in the area after Matt's disappearance:
I am aware of Matt's disappearance, although I learned of it only
after my return from the Minarets area (July 30-Aug 2). I climbed two
of the Minarets (Pridham and Starr), but his name was not in the
register on Pridham, and there was no register on Starr. I did not see
anything unusual during my wandering in the area that would shed light
on Matt's whereabouts.
Was just looking at the map Kelly made and didn't see any notations on Pridham. Matt wasn't searched for in the area, but his name was not seen in register.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
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Aug 30, 2013 - 10:02pm PT
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https://www.google.com/maps/ms?msid=201100958982639302825.0004e4b67d382d4f35fd4&msa=0&ll=37.548933,-118.322754&spn=2.364716,5.410767&iwloc=0004e50ae34c9f274c26d
Reading Glasses Found
Last Updated by Kelly Castleberry 2 days ago
THEY ARE NOT MATT'S
The eyeglasses were found at this exact location. They were sitting on the trailhead post; this is the trailhead to the second (northern) Inyo Crater.
I would disagree with this statement. It really should be stated that the reading glasses can't proved to be Matt's. Can't be disproved either. That is a dead-end as the officer described it.
Several people who are near-sighted have stepped forward to admit that they use reading glasses over their contacts so they don't have to take out their contacts to see close-up. Is it possible that Matt did this also?
The reading eye-glasses make and model are known. They aren't available any more as far as I can tell. Someone had them that likes to hold onto things for a long time and get full use out of them. Seems to be Matt's habit. Just look at his older cell phone and lack of personal pc etc. Admirable traits in my opinion. I'm kinda like that.
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SplitPants
Social climber
LA
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Aug 30, 2013 - 10:09pm PT
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Lazydays
Thanks for the information. Can you please PM me so I can reply and then you can forward the email to me? I am a tad hesitant to update something as searched or checked without knowing the source of he information.
Thanks so much for your help it is really appreciated:)
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Aug 30, 2013 - 10:15pm PT
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The glasses were at a trail head used by many people. They were reading glasses, exactly what one would expect people to use while checking out material like maps at a trail head. The simplest explanation is someone lost them at the trail head which would include a lot of people besides Matt. If you hear hoofbeats in North America, think horses, although there is a possibility they could be zebras, because they have been brought and raised here.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
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Aug 30, 2013 - 10:24pm PT
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Like I said, its a dead-end as the officer described it, but it isn't an absolute "NO THEY ARE NOT MATT'S GLASSES."
It is very uncertain.
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lazydays
climber
Nazareth, PA
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Aug 30, 2013 - 10:28pm PT
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Can you please PM me
Just sent email SplitPants w/forwarded email. (Had your email when we talked about the website earlier this week).
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Supermama
Social climber
pa
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Aug 30, 2013 - 10:58pm PT
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Nazareth Blue Eagles fans turned out to the first football game of the season in green, in memory of missing teaching Matthew Greene. The community wants to thank all who are helping to find Matt. We just want him to come home.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Aug 30, 2013 - 11:03pm PT
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lazydays and supermama, thanks for sharing this small piece of a communities voice. Matt obviously is one of those gifted individuals who everyday made a difference in someones life. Best to you and all for giving me who has followed this epic the chance to have him touch my heart as well.
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SplitPants
Social climber
LA
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Aug 30, 2013 - 11:12pm PT
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Super mama and lazy days thanks for sharing!!
Charlie D
Ditto! +10
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Supermama
Social climber
pa
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Aug 30, 2013 - 11:20pm PT
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Hi all,
I just found the conversation below on Mountain Project Forum: Here is the link: http://www.mountainproject.com/v/yosemite-area-partner-july-1-9/108170299
He calls himself the brass monkey if it is him. See what you think.
"Im driving out west from PA for 2 months of climbing this summer and I'll be in or around Yosemite from June 22-July 14 and my partner from the July 1-9 just bailed on me due to work issues. Why cant everyone be a teacher, right?
So I'll be looking for partners from the 1-9. I'll have a car, rack, ropes, ledge, and some aid gear with me. I'm game to go anywhere within a 3-4 hour drive from Yosemite during that time. Needles, High Sierras, Valley, Tuolumne.
PM me and we can chat about more specifics and what not and see if we can work something out. I know there are some great climbers out there looking for partners from time to time, but I'm also not looking for the "I've never climbed aid or trad before but I'm a fast learner!" guy, sorry, I'm sure you are a fast learner, but...yeah, I'm sure you understand :).
Hit me up and let me know; if you are just in the area and see a silver Subaru wrx wagon with PA plates feel free to harass me! "
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LAhiker
Social climber
Los Angeles
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Aug 30, 2013 - 11:35pm PT
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Supermama, thanks for looking into this.
While that initial post sounds like it could be Matt, if you click on his profile, it turns out that brassmonkey is still posting!
Also, Matt had climbing partners for early July -- Jill and John. Brassmonke posts his phone number in another post -- a reverse phone lookup says it's a Dover, PA, number.
It's a weird coincidence, but this must be another PA teacher with a Subaru who climbs.
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lazydays
climber
Nazareth, PA
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Aug 30, 2013 - 11:37pm PT
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lazydays and supermama, thanks for sharing this small piece of a communities voice. Matt obviously is one of those gifted individuals who everyday made a difference in someones life. Best to you and all for giving me who has followed this epic the chance to have him touch my heart as well.
Charlie D, that was really sweet. I know so many I have talked to really appreciate all that is being done from and on the west coast to try to help find Matt. And as you can see from the video and pics, "Mr. Greene" was respected and loved by his students. He is missed by people of all ages.
Great pics Supermama!
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LAhiker
Social climber
Los Angeles
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Aug 30, 2013 - 11:46pm PT
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HighTraverse,
Thanks for your explanation that the "cross-country hike between Ediza, Iceberg, Cecile, and Minaret Lake," which Matt mentioned to a maintenance guy on July 11t, could actually refer to two hikes, both going by Minaret Lake but then diverging into a much safer "standard route" and a much more dangerous "high route."
You also made the point that if he had had an accident between Minaret and Cecile Lakes he probably would've been found by now because that part is more well-traveled.
Regarding the high route vs. the standard route, it sounds like the confusing thing about the possibility that Matt attempted this hike on the 17th is that if he had done the standard route, he wouldn't have needed the ice axe and crampons.
On the the other hand, the "high route" sounds so dangerous (especially with all those waterfalls coming down from the glaciers that Cragman and Cupcake saw) that (based on what Jill and Tiffany have said) it might have been out of character for Matt to attempt it alone. This seems especially unlikely because he probably thought he was finally going to be able to retrieve the car and drive to Colorado the next day.
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Supermama
Social climber
pa
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Aug 30, 2013 - 11:51pm PT
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LA Hiker...Sorry about that...false alarm....what a coincidence! I am still learning how to navigate all of the sites.
Lazydays...thanks! Were you there?
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
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Aug 30, 2013 - 11:56pm PT
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Aug 30, 2013 - 05:42pm PT
Aug 24, 2013 - 02:25pm PT
Officer Hugelman requested that I send him the images I took upon discovering the glasses- here is a copy of the email I just sent him:
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Hello- I was the individual who found what many believe are the potential glasses belonging to missing person, Matthew Greene. I've attached the photos I took upon discovery, as requested.
I would like to direct you, as well as Detective Hornbeck to a page in the SuperTopo Climbing forum- here you can find Matt's prescription details, and perhaps see if the glasses I found are similar or match.
Here is a copy/paste of the post from Ron, Matt's brother in law:
Aug 24, 2013 - 06:57am PT
Here's Matt's eye RXs from 2-1-13
Glasses:
OD - 2.75 - 0.75 x 175
OS - 2.75 - 1.00 x 005
Contacts:
OD - 8.6 / 14.5 - 2.50 - 0.75 x 180
OS - 8.6 / 14.5 - 2.50 - 1.25 x 180
Acuvue Oasys for Astigmatism
Hope that means something; my eyes are good so it's Greek to me.
Let me know if there is anything else you need from me.
Thanks,
Alex Xxxxxx
xxx-xxx-xxxx
"
Essentially I've relayed Matt's Rx info, hoping to expedite that process. We'll see what comes of it.
@Cragman, thanks, I'm interested to know.
Alex (x1n54n3x),
Just wondering. Did you give officer Hugelman of the MLPD original copies of all the in-camera images you took of the glasses with all the in-camera metadata along with them? Thanks.
Officer Dan Watson (MLPD),
Is it possible can you confirm whether or not Alex (x1n54n3x) provided you with original copies of all the in-camera images he took of the reading glasses with all the in-camera metadata along with those images? Thanks.
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SplitPants
Social climber
LA
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Aug 30, 2013 - 11:57pm PT
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Super mama
Great catch.....love your attention to detail.
LAhiker
Valid point......however......what if this guy just happened to connect with Matt? We do know:
1. Matt often sought partners on that forum
2. Per his family all phone numbers on his phone bill are PA except car repair center. Perhaps there is a PA number on his cell bill that might match this guy?
3. We don't have access to Matt's email accounts so we don't know if they corresponded
Let me sit and think on this tonight. Please don't contact this person yet. I have my reasons for holding off.......if we decide to make contact with him it needs to be done in a proper manner so as not to jeopardize a potential lead.
Hang tight.....:)
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SplitPants
Social climber
LA
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Aug 31, 2013 - 12:18am PT
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Supermama,
I am way behind in my emails:(((( I hope to get caught up tomorrow morning.
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SplitPants
Social climber
LA
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Aug 31, 2013 - 12:24am PT
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All/Supermama/LAHiker etc....
Concerning the post on mountainproject. It is not possible that it is Matt (the account is active).
However, we need to rule out that Matt did not see his post and send him a PM. We don't know Matt's habits about partnering up. Would he reply in the forum or would he send a PM?
I don't want to scare the person away in case he did have contact with Matt. It is possible Matt PM'd him and he may not want to talk to anyone. Meaning if we contact him and he did have communications with Matt, well he could decide to delete his account and then...........well we would need a warrant to find out who he is.
I want to turn this information over to the family and the detective. I honestly think it is a long shot this person talked to Matt.........but just in case he did I want to make sure things are handled in the proper manner.
I will send an email to the family and detective before I go to bed.
Thanks again for everyone's help:) Keep up the great work and keep the faith:))))))))
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