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Bob D'A
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Boulder, CO
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Feb 17, 2010 - 07:23pm PT
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Ron...is does offend when you make statements about things you know very little of.
I grew up in a black neighborhood in Philly...there a lot of reasons why certain groups in this country had to struggle to succeed...color being a huge one.
Whites...the biggest users of the welfare system didnot have that strike against them.
Lots of wisdom here Ron...Indeed a good thing to capture #2!!,,,, now if they will only deal with him in "DEADWOOD" justice style!!!! Wooos pigs need a feeding!!!! ... Ron Anderson
Good old white boy gonna show how we deal with them Muslims. Real wisdom.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Feb 17, 2010 - 07:35pm PT
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You and I know why you posted it. Teach them Muslims a lesson won't you Ron.
Ron wrote: Simply bait for takers of the cheap shot........
The only cheap shots are coming from you.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Feb 17, 2010 - 07:49pm PT
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Ron wrote: The American way is a good thing, but somewhere along the path, these giants formed ..... and with too much "help" from the feds.
Ron who let Wal-mart and the other giants get away with cheap labor and no benefits.
Ron wrote: and besides,, you missed the wisdom I was talking about,,,,,(sigh) ,,, so ill explain. Norton and I came to a certain degree of understanding today as Norton said, " without stereotyping and insults" i believe was his phrase......
Well you stereotyped blacks and insulted Muslims...I don't buy your crap.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Feb 17, 2010 - 07:49pm PT
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Feb 17, 2010 - 07:57pm PT
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Nice try Ron...do you always try to worm your way out?
Man up...if your capable.
Ron wrote: ok now,,,,,,im trying to be civil LOL,,, but what ethnic background constitutes the majority of welfare recepients in this country???? there in may be the answer....... just sayin.....
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Feb 17, 2010 - 08:26pm PT
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Ron...dig a deeper hole. as for muslims whos history is based much on the hatred for western (our) civilization
Between 6 to 8 million Muslims live in America...were the war at in the US.
There are 1.5 billion worldwide.
Can't you get anything right.
The one doing the bombing/killing are fringes groups and don't represented the majority of Muslims. Can you understand that?
Ron wrote: and still waiting to see where I said Blacks.......
Still waiting for you to man up. Who were you talking about? This should be good.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Feb 17, 2010 - 08:33pm PT
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Truth be told, by far the vast majority of Muslims are peaceful and
do NOT wish the United States ANYTHING bad.
However, there is a SMALL number who are extreme, young, unemployed,
nothing to do but taught to hate America.
THEY become the suicide bombers and Al Qaeda members.
Just like there are a SMALL number of dipshit Americans who are
extremists.
Even the tea party has its own subset of raving, stupid, idiots
who just like hating the government, meanwhile they have NO problem
collecting unemployment, or taking Social Security, or Medicare,
and have NO problem having that hated government's military protect
their hillbilly asses.
Ain't NOTHING wrong with being a Muslim, but LOTS wrong with being
an EXTREME, America hating, "fake" member of the Muslim faith.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Feb 17, 2010 - 08:53pm PT
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Jeff, they are not cowards when they put a civilian in front of them.
Think about it, it is WE who LIKE to say they are cowards.
THEY do not have the wonderful high tech weapons that WE have.
They fight with their hands and swords, roadside bombs, and yes with
innocent civilians in front of them.
They use every MEANS to defeat their enemy, us.
Just like WE use EVERY means to defeat them.
Mews flash: There are NO "rules" in war, no ethics.
Ain't nothing cowardly about them, they readily, willingly, give up their
lives in fighting for what they believe in.
THEY are some of the BRAVEST bastards on earth.
And it is that BRAVERY that makes them so effective with how LITTLE they got
to work with.
Again, there are no rules, none, none in war.
And they do not give a damn that we do not fight like they do, that we
are not seen or would not grab a civilian in order to fight another day.
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jstan
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Feb 17, 2010 - 08:57pm PT
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The last reports I saw from Tehran suggested the people on the street there have an education far superior to what I had believed and they are out there simply because they want what we think we have. A chance to participate in their country's future. And they are out there knowing some of them will be arrested and probably hung.
The hard part to understand? With all we have, we are not willing to participate in a government here in this country.
Everything has to be guaranteed and presented to us on a silver platter before we will consider it.
The talk here is not a process anyone would call government.
We in the US are rejecting what the people in Tehran are willing to take any risk in hopes of achieving.
Cause we can't have everything we want.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Feb 17, 2010 - 09:02pm PT
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And look at the "giveaway" to THE wealthiest Americans that the Republicans
HANDED with the income tax cuts as PAYBACK for their votes.
This SHOULD be sickening to every American.
The richest fukers in America pay LESS income tax because Bush REWARDED
them, and himself, and his rich friends.
Oh, before I forget, these guys did NOT go out and "create" jobs for
the trickle down peasants. They just said thanks and kept the cash.
I have already PROVED that tax cuts do NOT create jobs OR stimulate
the economy. This is the second greatest LIE ever told.
In 2007 the top 400 taxpayers had an average income of $344.8 million, up 31 percent from their average $263.3 million income in 2006, according to figures in a report that the IRS posted to its Web site without announcement that were discovered February 16.
Bloomberg noted that the wealthy's low tax rate can be directly attributed to the George W. Bush tax cuts. Bloomberg:
Almost three-quarters of the highest earners’ income was in capital gains and dividends taxed at a 15 percent rate set as part of Bush-backed tax cuts in 2003, the statistics show. Of the 400 earners, 289 paid a total effective federal tax rate of 20 percent or less in 2007, the last year for which figures were available, the data show
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Feb 17, 2010 - 09:08pm PT
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Jeff wrote: You're right about many peaceful, wonderful Muslims. But, their leadership in Iran, Syria, Saudi, Dubai, Northern Pakistan and Somalia want "The Clash".
Jeff..the US under Bush invaded a sovereign country...for 7 years under Bush all the Muslims world heard is how bad they are.
Do you understand what when down??
FYI..I lived in a Muslims nation (Indonesia) for over six months working...beautiful people and never an issue.
Jeff wrote: I agree, the Bush tax cuts were structured poorly. The middle needed a bigger cut.
Jeff...I think you are a moderate and really not part of the current mainstream republican party..depending who you were running against..I just might vote for you. :)
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Feb 17, 2010 - 09:28pm PT
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Hell, it is well known all over the world that Bush's invasion and
occupation of a mid east country just flat pissed off a couple of
hundred million Muslims.
They did NOT see the US as a "savior" in deposing Saddam, no one hailed
us as "liberators" as dumbfuk CHENEY predicted.
Christ, what a POOR record of predicting anything correctly conservatives have
Instead, our occupation served as a Cause for Celebration and ENCOURAGED
young Muslim men to hate America and want to kill us all.
The horrible blunder of us in Iraq is THE principle reason why recruitment
of young Muslim men is so easy into terrorism.
Bush and Cheney unleashed HELL and torture on tens of thousands of
INNOCENT Iraqi civilians, turned the world against us, pissed away
one trillion tax payer dollars in the desert, and increased the
national dept by two trillion, this in addition to the other four
trillion the Republicans added to the national debt with their
prescription drug giveaway to seniors, and watching, doing nothing, as
the economy melted down into recession.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Feb 17, 2010 - 09:32pm PT
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I can hardly breathe, just the excitement of GOING ROGUE turns them on.
Oh Sarah, the One, the Messiah, the Celebrity, the Savior of conservatives.
Run out NOW, and get your own Caribou Barbie T shirt, and just GO ROGUE!!
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 17, 2010 - 09:57pm PT
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Yep, I'd do her.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Feb 17, 2010 - 10:22pm PT
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You know, Ron, interesting you would say no one you know thinks Sarah
is The One, the Messiah, The Savior, even in spite of the adoring
crowds she draws, the books she writes for millions.
And you know what else Ron?
I do not know anyone, anyone, who thought or thinks right now, that
Obama is The One, The Messiah, the Savior.
Ron, I know many, many "liberals" because I AM one, and NOT ONE of
them EVER thought such things of Obama.
Honestly, we just thought it was time for a smart rather than a stupid
President, we liked him personally, and we felt he would better
represent the average American a lot better than John McCain,
it was that simple Ron.
It was the media, Ron, the right wing media, the Fox News talking heads,
the guys running right wing websites like hotair.com and redstate.com
and so on, it was THEM that MADE UP that crap about us on the left
seeing Obama that way.
It is all about creating hate, painting pictures of the other side
as being people to hate. Hate them for their education or lack of it,
hate them for talking down to people, or voting for dumbass people,
it is the media's job to create excitement, to create hate.
It keeps people tuned in, it keeps the advertising dollars rolling in.
Ron, I "threw" the stuff in about Saran being The One, just like YOU
threw the exact same language in about Obama a while back.
You know what Ron, we are BOTH WRONG.
Very very few thinking people ever believed that crap.
Another reason to stop the labeling, the name calling.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Feb 17, 2010 - 10:28pm PT
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I am a liberal and Obama was a better option for me than McCain...plain and simple, no messiah...a better candidate than McCain.
Ron wrote: it stopped being for the people BY the people, instead it became shoulda have been for the people by the CAREER POLITICIANS !!!
Funny stuff..it wasn't the democrats that wrote the contract America and wanted term limits then made a complete turnaround.
Ron wrote: it stopped being for the people BY the people
It stopped when it was written...we been trying to right it ever since...we have come a long way.
Fat wrote: Bob,
There was a Tea Bag rally in the park right across the street from my office, do you think I went?
The evil one
No.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Feb 17, 2010 - 10:54pm PT
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Ok Ron..whatever you say.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Feb 17, 2010 - 10:54pm PT
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