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sidmo
Sport climber
general delivery
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An interesting hunch, biotech – but wrong – although I wouldn’t put it past licky to do such a thing – but if anyone is a created straightman to the comic(al) licky, I think it would be w.braunsweiger – he WAS the first to post on this thread after licky
as for you, buttlicky - IT MUST BE SATISFYING TO BE RIGHT ALL THE TIME LICKY – HOW DO YOU DO IT? DIDN’T THINK THERE WERE GUYS LIKE ME AND ‘SAW OUT THERE HUH? THOUGHT EVERYONE AGREED WITH YOU EH? THOUGHT THAT WHEN YOU BEGAN WRITING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT YOU KNEW NEXT TO NOTHING ABOUT THAT YOU COULD ARBITRARILY SIT IN JUDGEMENT OF PEOPLE WHO WERE ACTUALLY THERE TO WITNESS, HUH? THOUGHT YOU COULD CHERRYPICK DATA TO SUIT YOUR PRECONCIEVED OPINIONS AND NOBODY WOULD NOTICE, DID YA? YOU NEVER GUESSED HOW FULL OF SHYT YOU WERE. YOU’RE NOT WRITING A BOOK YOU’RE SPINNING A YARN. TOLD YA BEFORE, WRITE IT AS FICTION AND DISTORT THINGS ALL YOU WANT, BUT IF YOU WANT TO PLAY JOURNALIST THEN ACCEPT THE SKEPTICISM THAT GOES WITH THE TERRITORY. NO WRITER WORTH THE INK HE WASTED HAS PLEASED EVERYONE, OR EXISTED WITHOUT A CRITIC. THE MERE FACT THAT YOU LET ME AND ‘SAW GET UNDER YOUR SKIN PROVES THAT YOU’RE TOO THIN-SKINNED FOR THIS VENTURE YOU’VE SET OUT ON. ATTACKING US JUST PROVES THAT YOU’VE GOT SOME IDEA ALREADY ABOUT WHAT YOUR “RESEARCH” SHOULD SHOW, AND SO YOU HAVE TO DISMISS DISSENT. YOU’RE A PHONY LICKSTER, A POSER AND A WANNABE, AS IN YOU “WANT TO BE” A WRITER. YOU’RE ALSO A LOSER WHO WANTS TO EXPLOIT THE CLIMBING COMMUNITY FOR YOUR OWN BENEFIT WITHOUT RESPECTING IT EXCEPT WHEN IT SUITS YOUR AGENDA. I’M REMINDED OF THE RUNUP TO THE WAR IN IRAQ, WHEN GEORGE BUSH AND DICK CHENEY SOLD THE U.N.,CONGRESS AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE A BUNCH OF HOOEY ABOUT SADAAM HAVING WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION - (HE DIDN’T, BY THE WAY.) LIKE YOU, THEY SHOUTED DOWN DISSENT AND ATTACKED THOSE WHO DARED TO HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS. SO, YOU’RE IN GOOD COMPANY LICKY. YOU’RE AS BRILLIANT AS PRESIDENTS BUSHNEY AT ANALYZING DATA AND JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS – I THINK YOU'RE IN POSSESSION, OF WEAPONS OF MASS DISTRACTION . . . OR POSSESSED, WHICHEVER - CONGRATULATION, DUDE, YOU’RE AN IDIOT, TOO
PS: I HAD MY FIFTEEN MINUTES OF FAME MORON, MORE LIKE FIFTEEN HOURS ACTUALLY – I’VE RETIRED FROM THE SPOTLIGHT, JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVEN’T FIGURED THAT OUT YET JUST REINFORCES MY THESIS – YOU ARE A BUMBLING FOOL THAT CANT SEE PAST THE END OF YOUR NOSE – AND ONE WHO NEVER CLIMBED THE NOSE OR ANYTHING ELSE – A “SOCIAL CLIMBER” AS YOU CALL YOURSELF – I RECOMMENDED EARLIER THAT YOU LOOK THAT UP. SINCE RESEARCH DOESN’T SEEM TO BE YOUR FORTE, ALLOW MW TO SHARE THIS DEFINITION WITH EVERYONE – FROM THE URBAN DICTIONARY(.COM):
social climber
(n.) Similar to an "attention whore", but a social climber is anyone that becomes friends with someone else if they have something that they want, which we all know involves people. They become 'friends' with people who "know people". In turn, they become (or attempt to become) 'friends' with that first person's more "popular" friends, leaving the first person behind. Repeats this cycle to "get to the top", in their own mind, until they realize they are shallow and unable to like people for who they really are. Inevitably, they will be forced to "mature" beyond this. This usually pertains to girls more so than guys.
I COULDN’T AGREE MORE, AN "ATTENTION WHORE"– LICKY IS A GIRLYMAN, OR AS WE USED TO SAY, A PUSSY
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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At least Sidmo....
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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I'd imagine it tasted terrible and just gave you a terrible headache, as well as some nausea.
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Wings of Steel II - the origins.
For fuk's sake...
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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If Obama had a son, he'd look like Sidmo.
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zBrown
Ice climber
mercenario de merced
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Rank amateurs all the way round.
If marijuana is medicinal today, it was medicinal in 1976. It was also medicinal in 1954. The Aztecs and Incas used marijuana medicinely even earlier to tone down the peyote buzz when they were carving the hearts out of those young maidens. We don't gotta show you no stinkin' permits, SA.
Obviously, no one around these parts has observed a helio-seaplane in action as I did in the infamous 1954 Machu Picchu Lake non-plane crash.* As I've said before I accept cash or Paypal only.
*No US Navy personnel (and particularly no UDT members) were involved in this operation.
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edgerson
Social climber
Newport Beach, CA
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I'd imagine it tasted terrible and just gave you a terrible headache, as well as some nausea. That and some Blue Nun and off to the Awahanee for Demitasse.
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zBrown
Ice climber
mercenario de merced
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P.S. Can't we all just get along?
DMT vs LSD
Weed vs Hash
Hash oil vs Hash coding algorithms
The Rhythm of the Saints vs There Goes Rhymin' Simon
The Rhythm Method vs I Shoulda Used a Rubber Instead of Tape
Licky vs The Looming Deadline
Sidmo vs Herr Braun
For the imaginationally impaired:
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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Good luck on the book - It is an essential part of the history of Yosemite climbing.
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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Hey wait - this post is from 2005. Did he ever write the book?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Edgerson...You Irvinites are so plastic...Go smoke some aviation fuel...RJ
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splitter
Trad climber
Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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Sidmo,
just a suggestion. try being a lil' more concise and to the point. that is, if you desire an audiance. from what i gather, this(licky's book)is not so much about C4, the dope which was extracted from the lake, etc.! it has a much broader focus. evidently it is about the life of the plane from its early beggining, to its shady latter day undertakings and eventual demise via nose dive into a remote, yet conveniantly located, mountain lake. Licky requested info and people responded. that is what usually happens on this forum. he is in debt to nobody.
Furthermore, why does it matter what he did during his youth? I imagine he focused on acquiring an education. i do recall him saying that he spent some time living and skiing in the mountains. If you are so concerned about the lifestyle of Valley climbers and inhabitants and whatever being given an appropriate portrail, why don't you write a book with a more centrally focused perspective.
i would get very snoopy, in regards to JD and his demise. i would look at it from several angles. might not amount to anything one way or another. but, like i have already said, i walked that trail a number of times afterwards. and, at the time, the spot were JD fell was the only spot on the whole trail where such an 'accident' could have occurred. Extremely coincidental(imo). very inconvient place to trip. the only spot(10-15 wide)which would have resulted in a straight shot down a muddy slope. Like i said, i checked. i would seek specific information in regards to the contentof the 'black book'. i believe that info is out there. money talks. i would definitely stir up some issues that have long been dormant for decades. a lot of my focuswould beon the Pacific NorWest. i would expect to meet resistance.
Licky says he is writing a book with the primary focus being the airplane. my primary focus would lie elsewhere. i gave a few hints as to where. but i am not a writer and don't have that great an interest in spending the next 3-5 years investigating the subject. nor do i have the funds it would take. and it may lead no where. other than a regurgitation of an event that prollie had more negative implications than positive ones.
Personally, I see/saw nothing positive resulting from a plane filled with dope crashing into a mountain lake. that last flight was cursed from the moment it was concieved, imo. and it left a negative imprint upon many of the lives it impacted. lives whose direction in life was forever changed.
There is enough material here to get you rolling. but, like i suggested, keep it concise and to the point.
EDIT: "a lot of my focus would beonthe PacNorWest!"!!...
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zBrown
Ice climber
mercenario de merced
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I’ve spoken with the guy that provided the route, he said he made it up.
Well, pick a card, any card. I picked this one.
Great investigative journalism ric. Did you verify this in some way? If he made up a story for someone else, how do you know he didn't make up one for you?
I'm beginning to think there will never be a book. I'm also beginning to think I wouldn't read it if there was (and I'm one of your staunchest supporters).
We gotta get out this place, if it's the last thing we ever do.
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 9, 2012 - 09:49pm PT
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Dayuum Splitter...very well put.
zBrown...don't forget one thing. I'm the one doing the research. I have yet to hear from anyone that they too are spending time and money researching this event.
I'm not posting everything I have learned here on the Taco as that would compromise the book. As I've said many times on this thread, there is more to this story than those that made their way up to the lake and made off with their share of the booty. For some, that is all there is to the story, or better yet...to their story.
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corniss chopper
climber
breaking the speed of gravity
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Has anyone thought to apply the obvious scientific method to this mysterious
incident?
The government sets up cameras and crashes planes on purpose to measure
various things all the time. No big deal.
Someone could buy a Lodestar, go south and get a cargo
and come back up and crash it into Upper Merced Lake again
-of course parachute out at the last second-
but this time there would be 100's of spectators taking video to catch the crash from every possible perspective.
Mystery solved.
Ok just kidding. Really.
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zBrown
Ice climber
mercenario de merced
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zBrown...don't forget one thing. I'm the one doing the research. I have yet to hear from anyone that they too are spending time and money researching this event.
Yeah ric, but you're the one writing the book. You asked for help on the ST and I understand you got some. I've offered mostly tongue in cheek advice and maybe a couple of serious ones. Your conflicts with some folks on the ST are not very interesting, though sometimes someone throws out some funny lines.
My guess is that you would make better progress if you had some deadlines, either self-imposed or otherwise.
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WBraun
climber
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Why does everyone have the need to tell Licky what to do?
It's his project.
Even if he never gets it done (hypothetically) it's still his project.
Leave the guy alone and he'll probably get it done sooner or later or never.
None of your business, especially the nutcase sidmo.
Stupid Americans need to get into everyone Else's business.
Just look at the world today and see.
Stupid Americans everywhere fighting all over the world getting in everyone Else's buisness and doing jack sh!t at home .....
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sidmo
Sport climber
general delivery
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Jun 10, 2012 - 03:52am PT
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many good points there in those recent posts (even you licky!), some remarkably insightful - BUT . . . Brauney really IS licky, huh? how could someone initiating such a thread so many years ago find such a willing sycophant so quickly as the FIRST POST? and one that has lasted to this point and likely to the end as an unapologetic cheerleader for someone we assume he has no personal relationship with? as seth and amy said tonight on re-run:
REALLY???!!!!
REALLY???!!!!
Mr. W. Braun, sir - are you ... err, do you know
LICKY?
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Bullwinkle
Boulder climber
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Jun 10, 2012 - 04:56am PT
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Damn SkidMark didn't Mommy give you any attention when you were a baby? Clueless. I've met Rick and unlike you he's a standup Guy who's done his research and is taking his time to get it right. He even uses his own name, not like some of the nameless trolls that call this thread home.
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zBrown
Ice climber
mercenario de merced
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Jun 10, 2012 - 12:15pm PT
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Hey ric:
I'm a very big procrastinator. Under prodding I've finished things that I might not have otherwise. You know whether you are one or not. If you're not, then keep plugging away. If you are, then keep plugging away and you can thank me later.
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