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HighDesertDJ
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Jan 27, 2016 - 07:06am PT
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Chaz posted It's cool to see so many Progressives coming out in support of police violence, mass incarceration, and prison rape.
I'm trying to remember a single time when you posted about any of those issues in defense of someone who wasn't white. And aren't progressives supposed to be rabidly anti-police and always blame police for everything?
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Jan 27, 2016 - 07:07am PT
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It's cool to see so many Progressives coming out in support of police violence, mass incarceration, and prison rape.
Au Contrairian.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jan 27, 2016 - 07:14am PT
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So now that it's over, will this thread still hit 2000 posts? Anyone taking bets?
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Jan 27, 2016 - 07:16am PT
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After thinking this over, I don't understand the sympathy for Lavoy Finicum. Dude was a hothead, itchin' for a gunfight, and knew what he was getting into.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Jan 27, 2016 - 07:20am PT
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Never stop posting.
After thinking this over, I don't understand the sympathy for Lavoy Finicum. Dude was a hothead, itchin' for a gunfight, and knew what he was getting into.
What is the likelihood of any of those people claiming that Finicum was "murdered by police" thought Michael Brown was rightfully shot?
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Bushman
Social climber
Elk Grove, California
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Jan 27, 2016 - 07:30am PT
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How could anyone think this wasn't going to end in violence?
Senseless.
If you want to fight fire with fire and expect to survive,
get a law degree.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Jan 27, 2016 - 07:33am PT
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Where's Ron Anderson
Ron's probably holed up with the other ignorant dongbeavers, Forum Bully.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 27, 2016 - 07:42am PT
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An eyewitness is reporting that finicum tried to run the blockade and ended up in a snow bank, got out of the truck and charged the FBI. I suppose he could have been unarmed and on the ground, maybe he was doing a low-crawl
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Jan 27, 2016 - 07:42am PT
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Werner posted Where's Ron Anderson to give his commentary to twist all these lame azz lazy armchair do nothing wannabee crankloon quarterbacks in this thread.
The chief would be great too.
You stoopid crankloons ban everyone to make your boring drooling stupid little cliche group all the same and end up looking like drooling zombies .....
This is so meta.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Jan 27, 2016 - 07:44am PT
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"Their concerns were valid"
Really,so if you run a business and you do not Pay your suppliers you would take up arms against them.
What do you call that?
GD yeeHaddists they are getting what is coming to them.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Jan 27, 2016 - 07:45am PT
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OK! OUR forces have blockaded the CowQuida nutjobs.
UPDATE (4:30 a.m.): FBI officials have established checkpoints around the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge as a handful of armed militants remain inside.
FBI officials say any vehicles approaching the checkpoints will be stopped and searched, and all occupants of the vehicles must present identification. Law enforcement officials said in a press release early Wednesday morning they will arrest anyone who is not compliant with the checkpoint procedure.
The only people allowed to pass the checkpoints will be local ranchers, according to the FBI.
“Anyone coming out of the refuge will have his or her identification confirmed and any associated vehicles searched,” a press release from the FBI stated.
http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/lockdown-harney-county/
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Jan 27, 2016 - 07:48am PT
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WTF posted Their methods were poor but their concerns are valid IMO.
How about at the next sushi fest the state of Utah showed up and shuts your wagon down.
You have health inspections Nature? You have a Utah business license? You report that income to the IRS?
You have a liquor license? You offer saki don't you?
Hosting an unlicensed sushi party in the desert is JUST LIKE an armed takeover of a government building. Excellent analogy.
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overwatch
climber
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Jan 27, 2016 - 07:51am PT
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Their methods were poor but their concerns are valid IMO
Glad you didn't put the H in there
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 27, 2016 - 08:11am PT
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The FBI is asking the press to move away from the refuge. Maybe sushi is on the way?
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jan 27, 2016 - 08:22am PT
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Where were the intrepid reporters and/or others when this all went down.
We want videos, don't we?. Is the head dead yet?
R.I.P. [Glenn]]
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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kattz
climber
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Jan 27, 2016 - 08:30am PT
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Got to say I'm myself against current government path towards tyranny, blatant violations of the constitution, the country having turned into the matrix of media brainwash and materialism slipping towards system of slavery more and more, etc, to the point I'm planning to permanently leave the States in several years, but even I have no sympathy for these nut jobs occupying Mahleur. They are disgusting looney bins and hope they all will be in federal prison soon. Their leadership are nothing but greedy rancher leeches with only personal profit in mind, and the rest of their "flock" are and not much different from Bundy ranch cows (while also acting like shameless leeches).
They'd asked for donations. What??! How "self-sufficient" of them, true preppers!
They'd occupied government building and land funded by taxpayers--they had been living consuming utilities paid by the taxpayers, enjoying all kinds of comforts, while destroying the property paid by the taxpayers, so in a couple of months I will have to foot the bill for yet another leech! It really got me how they're smoking inside the building....employees will have to return there and smell the filth--so, BLM will have to replace the flooring and all furniture, as it's impossible to remove the smell of smoke by any means--who's going to pay for this?? I hope these "occupiers" will have ALL property confiscated via fines, to pay for damages.
I definitely believe that the rights of white people are frequently violated in the US and people are being targeted because of being white, without repercussions for criminals who attack them. However--the Bundy clique are the exact example of "white privilege" and the proof that such indeed exists. Why had they been handled with such kid gloves? They're destroying the fence....and no police action. If I destroyed any fence, I'd be hauled to jail. But these had been enjoying their privilege, apparently, for being such all-American males (and well-connected ranchers)? I almost thought there's someone out there taking bribes from them (hence the kid gloves).
And what cowards they are....One of them was already posting tearful videos with his kids asking for money to get a lawyer yesterday (!)...yeah, the one who was ready to die in mortal combat with the feds or something few day ago. Bundy'd surrendered while letting his buddies rot in the compound...he's sure hoping to cut a sweet privilege deal with the Feds now...no matter how many more of his flock are going to get shot. What wusses! Unbelievable circus. All they could do is try to trash the bird refuge; as someone'd mentioned, any one bird from there is worth more than entire Bundy gang.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jan 27, 2016 - 08:35am PT
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I definitely believe that the rights of white people are frequently violated in the US and people are being targeted because of being white, without repercussions for criminals who attack them.
Oh, please...
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kattz
climber
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Jan 27, 2016 - 08:41am PT
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Another thing is the Bundy's space demands.. They own large private lands, already.
Apparently, they think it's not enough and they want to grab public lands. So that the other citizens, who don't have own large lots (or don't have any own lots at all) have to surrender their public land (which is often the only land they "have") to his cows, who's going to destroy what's left of that land and drive other users off the land, and make it generally unpleasant to use (cow crap everywhere they went though).
In the good old times, there was a lot of land and not so many people, this is what old Bundy is used to. Now, extreme overpopulation is making desirable (non-desert, non-arctic) land less and less available and more and more expansive.
So, Bundy wants more land. And he pops out...14 brats...what???!!
He brings 14 offspring and guess what, each will need more land! For their cows, themselves (since the're used to space) and whatever! That breeding spree alone is a message for others to "move on and make space" for ME.
Perhaps Bundy shouldn't had been breeding so much and spent the money on buying more land for his precious cows instead.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 27, 2016 - 08:41am PT
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Nice first post Katz. Love to hear what country you are moving to.
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