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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Aug 24, 2015 - 03:53pm PT
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Ah, OK. I got to chat with Rosemarie (our county Supervisor) about the tree mortality rate in Mariposa county. I was surprised (and dismayed) to learn a few things.
First, the Forest Service does aerial surveys, and CalFire takes these and proceeds with a more in-depth analysis. Finally, for Mariposa County, the task lands on Don Florence's desk--he holds the Office of Emergency Services. I suppose that is where the final figure is established, because Rosemarie told me Don just updated the expected tree mortality rate in Mariposa county to be a staggering 54%.
Rosemarie is new in her role, but I like the direction in which she's leading. She said she's trying to get sister counties together to establish a Tree Mortality Disaster committee, where they can work with the state to combat the disaster.
Also, she uses the term "infestation," as in the beetle infestation. I suppose it does sound better than "The Attack of the Beetles." Personally, I'd prefer the English Invasion (sorry, I couldn't help the pun).
Dang if it's not one thing it's another.
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Aug 24, 2015 - 04:03pm PT
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One quibble.... Its human losses not drought losses. As with fire, nature is adapted. She hasn't lost a thing. Its human expectations that have suffered losses.
Carry on
DMT
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice Post Dingus.
FWIW:
Both Sabrina and South Lakes are now 4/5ths full after being 3/4ers empty just this past May.
ALL of the natural backcountry bodies of water on the eastside that I have been to except for one the past six weeks, that being over 34, are at normal waterline. Even the local CAL F&G dude who is in charge of the MYLF implementation is pleasantly surprised at the amounts of water (normal levels) up high. And the fishing has been nothing short of fabulous.
Love it.
Below are some recent (this month) examples of them full bodied high lakes on the eastside:
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Aug 24, 2015 - 06:09pm PT
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ALL of the natural backcountry bodies of water on the eastside that I have been to except for one the past six weeks, that being over 34, are at normal waterline.
how little precipitation is necessary for the backcountry bodies of water to be at there "normal waterline"?
ever think about where the water goes which is in excess of that?
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Aug 24, 2015 - 06:18pm PT
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Average rainfall for LA is around 15 inches.
We have six years of below average rainfall and catch up on year seven.
It has always been that way.
(give or take a year or two in the cycle)
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Aug 24, 2015 - 06:37pm PT
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ever think about where the water goes which is in excess of that?
Ah, the excess from these Headwater bodies of water I am speaking of, flows down creeks and streams which are btw flowing at normal levels from what I was told. Evidenced by both Sabrina and South Lake's filling up as quickly as they in just over 3 months. I would imagine a minute portion gets evaporated as well.
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dirtbag
climber
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Aug 24, 2015 - 06:50pm PT
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Chief Running Mouth understands hydrology better than hydrologists. Just ask him. He knows everything.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Aug 24, 2015 - 07:05pm PT
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We were just having a discussion this morning on that subject. A Civil engineer who works part time for us was commenting on a hydrology report that she had just seen from a local water agency. Smoothed over the last normal drought flood cycle Southern California rainfall is exactly normal.
On the parenthetic side The week before last I fished the same lakes as last year out of TM, same week in August.
They were at the same levels or higher than last year. Kinda surprised me.
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Aug 24, 2015 - 07:06pm PT
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Yeah pretty amazing aint it TGT. Personally, I love it cus the fishing has been badass to say the least. Another way cool thing i noticed. The emtomology that normally remains some 2-4K below these lakes has actually moved up to them. Thus really invigorating the inhabitants to go after my flies that I normally use down lower.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Aug 24, 2015 - 07:10pm PT
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Let's play two.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Aug 24, 2015 - 07:12pm PT
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Since southern ca can't satisfy it's water requirements from local rainfall, its kinda meaningless as far as the drought is concerned.
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Aug 24, 2015 - 07:17pm PT
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Pretty interesting ZBrown that your local water district actually drained a large reservoir into a nearby canyon last month because it had TOO MUCH water in it, wasn't being recycled thus allowing it to get contaminated. All this during a supposed drought.
WTF is up with that??
http://www.pomeradonews.com/news/2015/jul/01/quality-concerns-force-poway-dump-drinking-water/
I wonder how many more of these type events have occurred statewide the past six months that were not publicized.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Aug 24, 2015 - 07:20pm PT
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Yep, Chief. That was quite a large amount of water.
The amount released from the reservoir represented roughly 1.6 acre feet of water, enough to supply three families of four people each for a year.
LOL!
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Aug 24, 2015 - 07:22pm PT
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Ah, so the drought is a joke now huh monolith. Got it. Thanks for informing us how you truly feel about it.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Aug 24, 2015 - 07:22pm PT
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So one city may have bad water management capabilities and this is supposed to prove something about what?
The city sometimes experiences water quality problems at the Blue Crystal reservoir, located off Highway 67 in the eastern portion of the city, White said. Built in 1981, the 700,000-gallon reservoir is not highly used, White said. Decreased demand for water due to residential water conservation efforts have exacerbated efforts to keep water quality within state regulatory limits for chloramines.
The amount released from the reservoir represented roughly 1.6 acre feet of water, enough to supply three families of four people each for a year.
The city has 19 water reservoirs. White said she thought it had been at a least one year since the city had released water from one. A previous practice of releasing a press statement prior to a water release has been discontinued, White said.
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Aug 24, 2015 - 07:27pm PT
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I guess the drought isn't all that bad down in San Diego County. Got it. That must be where you took that photo of yours ZBROWN...
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Aug 24, 2015 - 07:27pm PT
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You are the joke, Chief. You should actually read and understand your links before making wild ass claims, like a large reservoir was empied.
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Aug 24, 2015 - 07:30pm PT
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Of course I am a joke Monolith. Love you too.
Now how about all that very abundant at normal levels water up high in the on the eastside that NONE of you can have since the LA Aq (in order to maintain the LADWP Owens River/Lake agreement) was shut down to you.
Hopefully the smoke will clear tomorrow so I can get back to all that nice fresh cool clean eastside Sierra water.
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