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monolith

climber
Sep 13, 2011 - 08:19pm PT
coondogger, they put the target coordinates into the navigation system, just like they were trained to do on the big simulators.

atchafalaya, look at dirtbags's posts today.
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Sep 13, 2011 - 09:35pm PT
FWIW,

no doubt that RokJox knows more about computers than i do. what i inferred a couple days ago was that he knew nothing about the programming them to solve an extraordinary engineering problem on said computers. there is a huge difference between knowing computers and being able to set up the model to solve a twin tower structural analysis and failure. that was the discussion of a couple days ago.
WBraun

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 13, 2011 - 09:41pm PT
Naudet brothers documentary

So that explains monolith.

He's a total tool.

Naudet brothers documentary is total lies and bullsh#t.

Anyone that falls for them is a tool and sheep.

Naudet brothers documentary has been totally debunked as insider disinfo.

Momolith is "The TOOL"

Monolith needs to be sent to gitmo and tortured .....

monolith

climber
Sep 13, 2011 - 10:00pm PT
Yep, Werner's right, in a reflection off a window, you could actually see the firefighters reading off of giant cue cards.
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Sep 14, 2011 - 12:00am PT
LIHOP . . .


Olbermann: FBI Interrogator Soufan - Cheney's Torture Did Not Work & 9/11 Could Have Been Prevented
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x616501
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uja3ZT8CIk
http://current.com/shows/countdown/videos/ali-soufan-intelligence-failures-911-us-reputation-torture

Ex-FBI Interrogator 'Gagged' Over 9/11 Backstory
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4992347

The Black Banners: The Inside Story of 9/11 and the War Against al-Qaeda [Hardcover]
Ali H. Soufan (Author)
(Author), Daniel Freedman (Contributor)
http://www.amazon.com/Black-Banners-Inside-Against-al-Qaeda/dp/0393079422/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1315972464&sr=8-1

An Interrogator Writes 'The Inside Story Of 9/11'
http://www.npr.org/2011/09/13/140401483/an-interrogator-writes-the-inside-story-of-9-11
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Sep 14, 2011 - 12:24am PT
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x321595



Source: Dylan Ratigan Show / Raw Story

Former Sen. Bob Graham calls for new 9/11 investigation
Posted on 09.12.11
By Eric W. Dolan

Former Democratic Senator Bob Graham on Monday called on the U.S. government to reopen its investigation into 9/11 after a report found that links between Saudi Arabia and the hijackers were never disclosed by the FBI to the 2002 joint Congressional intelligence committee investigating the attacks.

“In the final report of the congressional inquiry, there was a chapter related primarily to the Saudi role in 9/11 that was totally censured, every word of the chapter has been withheld from the public,” Graham said on MSNBC’s The Dylan Ratigan Show.

“Some of the other questions we ought to be asking are if we know that the Saudis who lived in San Diego and now apparently in Sarasota received substantial assistance, what about the Saudis who lived in Phoenix, Arizona? Or Arlington, Virginia? … What was happening in those places?”

“I believe these are questions for which there are definitive answers, but the American people and largely their elected representatives have been denied that information.”

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/09/former-sen-bob-graham-calls-for-new-911-investigation
Reeotch

Trad climber
Kayenta, AZ
Sep 14, 2011 - 01:14am PT
No sh#t Riley, and repubs try to accuse BO of kissing ass to foreign leaders.

Not this repub . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NJLzfscMrg

Go Ron, Go Ron . . . !
raymond phule

climber
Sep 14, 2011 - 01:58am PT

What is this sh#t about me not knowing anything about computers?

It seems like I hit a nerve. I might instead have written know nothing about modern computers and what we can do today with computers that we couldn't do 1970. The discussion a couple of days ago clearly showed that.
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Sep 14, 2011 - 02:22am PT
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Sep 14, 2011 - 09:35am PT
BBC: FBI's former alQaeda expert says CIA withheld intel on two 9/11 hijackers; Cheney lied about torture
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x616559
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLO0lZvwr4E
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Sep 14, 2011 - 10:49am PT
"When a simple explanation has been scientifically proven to be true
It was only 3 jets, they did all the damage, nothing more was needed"...


Why some feel it needs to be more than that is beyond me...


First, this statement is a lie: "a simple explanation has been scientifically proven to be true."

The Scientific Method means the models can be analyzed and recreated.

They fudged the numbers and rigged the result. Nobody can duplicate the model because they hid the variables that they used to "prove" the three buildings fell because of the two planes.


Locker, it's not that we "feel" it needs to be more than that, it's that there is so much hard evidence that points to lies, deceit, and cover-ups in the Official Story. And why is that?

Witness all that has taken place as a result of the 9-11 attacks. Does it not bother you that all this was put into motion based on an Official Story that is founded on lies and cover-ups?

It's the facts that all you believers keep ignoring, or making up lunatic scenarios to justify the fact that you can't imagine anything but the OCT.

Karl posts an amazing short detailing some of the more outrageous stories contained in the Official Story. The Believers yell "It's full of half-truths!" Like, OBL might not have been on dialysis and that he wasn't in a cave!

Wow, really taking that thing apart, no?

No.

Why not deal with the real hard stories revealed in that short and not just the comic relief? Because you have nowhere to go when trying to explain the more fantastic truths told in the video.


Hey Dr. F., how about you find that "scientific proof" that shows how the each of the three buildings fell. You obviously seem to know where it is.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Sep 14, 2011 - 04:11pm PT
The most officials guys, the 9-11 commission leaders, state that the most official guys, the CIA lied to them.

This is in dispute by absoutely no-one, however official, that knows anything.

Isn't that enough to prompt even the biggest sheep to question "why are these guys lying"

I mean Bush and Cheney INSISTED on testifying OFF-THE-RECORD, TOGETHER, NOT UNDER OATH, NOT RECORDED.. WHY?

Really, what law enforcement accepts that shit!?

Why not question stuff that stinks so so so badly

Peace

Karl
raymond phule

climber
Sep 14, 2011 - 04:26pm PT
K-man, I have a question for you. The transcript for the video you like his here http://www.corbettreport.com/911-a-conspiracy-theory/

"... 4 commercial aircraft before flying those planes wildly off course for over an hour without being molested by a single fighter interceptor."

What is he talking about? What is this if not wrong or at best a half truth?

Not a single of those planes flew wildly of course for an hour.
stevep

Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
Sep 14, 2011 - 04:31pm PT
I'm not surprised that there was poor communication between all areas of govt. It probably could have been prevented. The govt screws up this sort of stuff all the time. For an example, see the ATF's botched weapons to Mexico sting operation. However, rather than proving some giant conspiracy, this does the opposite for me. I can't believe our govt could pull off something this complicated and keep it a secret.

Similarly, I have no doubt that the neo-cons used this to their advantage to push their foreign policy goals. But Cheney would have tried to use anything to his advantage, so I don't see that as proving anything.


As for those of you that think this was a big conspiracy, what do you have to say about this story:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/f-16-pilot-was-ready-to-give-her-life-on-sept-11/2011/09/06/gIQAMpcODK_story.html?fb_ref=NetworkNews

k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Sep 14, 2011 - 04:47pm PT
Good sleuthing raymond.

OK, so now we have a video FULL of lies!

Osama was NOT living in a cave at the time of the attacks, and the planes did not fly for over an hour each before turning around.

I guess this totally invalidates any of the hard points the video makes, eh?

But why not address something of merit, like this:

NIST Denies Access to WTC7 Data

Now why would they do that?? I mean, don't they want everybody to see how they came to the conclusion that small office fires brought down the massive 47-story building.


Now, as W.C. Fields famously said: Run along kid, ya bother me.
dirtbag

climber
Sep 14, 2011 - 05:24pm PT
I'm not sure who started all this conspiracy stuff, but I betcha it was a couple of boobs.

WBraun

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2011 - 06:25pm PT
Do I have to solve this sh'it all by myself?

Tossers all a ya.

Ya can't "SEE".

But if some boobs show up yer all drooling.

America ... ruled by boobs .....
dirtbag

climber
Sep 14, 2011 - 06:40pm PT
and a girl-girl hand holding as a bonus!
dirtbag

climber
Sep 14, 2011 - 06:59pm PT
raymond phule

climber
Sep 15, 2011 - 01:16am PT

BTW? Wildly off course seems appropriate verbiage when they wander in circles for hundreds of miles with transponders off. Were any of these planes on course to their announced destinations by the end of the day??

How stupid is it allowed to be? I said flying wildly of course for an hour.

You also proved that you don't have any knowledge about moderns computers and computer programs before. Why should I apologize.

K-man, I was sure that I would get that response from you. It is never the correct point someone shred to pieces.
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