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Tfish
Trad climber
La Crescenta, CA
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My car was the last one parked there so I guess I'm just assuming because there are other places to park if you want to stay past 10. But I'm pretty sure no one else was there.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Where were you, Tfish??? Was at B1 till very dark with Jeff, Hero, Nicole and Eric....
The moon was bright, we made good use of it.
And Tony.... it's sweet smoke and it rises everywhere around Stoney.
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Tfish
Trad climber
La Crescenta, CA
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Nabisco Canyon for most of the evening. We had the whole spot to ourselves. And then boulder #1 area from 9:00 til about 10:30.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 6, 2012 - 05:22pm PT
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wow! Tfish ur a climbing junky!
Night climbing at Stoney is something fun to do.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
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Tfish on night patrol.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 11, 2012 - 12:20am PT
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Nice temps today!
climbers on Pink drips.
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Apr 11, 2012 - 10:59am PT
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a bobcat crossed my path once on the rocky peak trail.
i was up at rocky peak yesterday and possibly saw a pair of golden eagles. i saw a golden about 10 years ago right next to the 118 at the pass, big bird with little white patches on the underside of the wings, which i think is positive identification. these birds yesterday were up high, but they had the patches. they had a different soaring habit than you see in buteos, and the raven that was pestering them seemed to be keeping its distance.
anyone else seen goldens in that neighborhood?
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FRUMY
Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
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Apr 13, 2012 - 05:57pm PT
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Don't even think of bouldering there this weekend.
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G_Gnome
Trad climber
Pebble Wrestling.... Badly lately.
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Apr 13, 2012 - 06:13pm PT
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Tony, there are goldens everywhere. I see them at Malibu all the time too.
I sail and you will see them flying out to Santa Cruz Island from Ventura to go hunt foxes. They stocked Bald Eagles out there to try to keep the Goldens away.
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PurplePineapple
climber
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Apr 14, 2012 - 08:54pm PT
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Stoney Point Community,
I wanted to post a few questions to the community and see what the response would be. There are a number of climbs on the West Walls that have potential and are in need of some TLC. More specifically the Suburbia & Boy Scout Wall Area.
I would like to do the following with a high level of craftsmanship:
1. Hire Beekeepers to relocate the existing beehives to an area of less risk to climbers and children. We have been assured that this can be done without doing irreversible damage to the hive.
2. Clean many of the easy to moderate climbs. This would include glueing critical loose holds.
3. Add quality bolt anchors.
I understand that the difference in opinions may be huge. I will use the prevailing opinions as a bases to go forward. Please be constructive with your feedback.
Cheers,
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Apr 14, 2012 - 10:01pm PT
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Short answer: NO
1. Bee's, You gonna pay? Who's home is it?
2. It's sandstone. Gluing it back together is futile.
3. Quality anchors have always been welcome after the irritation wears off. Others tend to get chopped or pulled.
Boy Scout Wall needs no bolts. Plenty of natural pro. Plus it's so easy it's not worth the hardware. I'm the only one who ever climbed there with my kids and their friends. A couple of Scout outings.
I'm sure Chris (SOWR) would say the same about Suburbia Wall.
I appreciate you loving and wanting to contribute to Stoney. Get a bucket, pick your favorite area, and spend the afternoon with your thumb and forefinger picking up every single piece of glass. Very satisfying. I did it at Mommy's Boys last fall.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
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Apr 14, 2012 - 10:41pm PT
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Spider thank you.
Purplepinnapple - If I find you with clue or in anyway defacing anything at Stoney Point I will do what ever it takes to make your life miserable ---- starting with a call to the police.
Stoney Point is a city Monument it is protected by state & federal laws.
Only a complete self centered F-_-head would change Stoney.
There is a long history of morons chipping & clueing & getting there a_s kick for doing stupid things like that.
There have been people climbing at Stoney for over 80 years.
Clueing & cleaning routes is for weak minded morons who steal from the future & destroy the past.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 14, 2012 - 10:41pm PT
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hey Purple send me an email with ur name and number. i'll call you. my buddy mike and a few others were going to just clean up (old roots) on that area.
rm
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FRUMY
Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
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Apr 14, 2012 - 10:42pm PT
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Pyro you know better.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
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Apr 14, 2012 - 10:54pm PT
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Just a typical California girl at the beach.
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Tfish
Trad climber
La Crescenta, CA
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Apr 17, 2012 - 05:29pm PT
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I saw this in the paper today. Stupid reporter "Remote Stoney Point Area" next they will be calling it backcountry or alpine.
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Apr 17, 2012 - 05:58pm PT
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geez, frumy--take a mellow lesson from yer dogs. if ya wanna tool, tool graffiti artists who don't have any real talent.
santa susanna sandstone is allergic to good bolts. it chews them up and spits them out. only the old, rusty quarter-inchers seem to stick.
They stocked Bald Eagles out there to try to keep the Goldens away.
not the way i heard that, gnome. goldens quickly do away with balds. they were trying to return the fish-eating balds to their island habitat, but there warn't enough room in that town for two eagles.
dontcha love that news copy? "the remote stoney point area". that's near porter ranch, in case you need orientation, and within 10 minutes of several major shopping centers. any sasquatch sightings last week?
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G_Gnome
Trad climber
Pebble Wrestling.... Badly lately.
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Apr 17, 2012 - 06:25pm PT
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Hmmm Tony, wonder what the real story is/was with the eagles.
Back to PurplePeopleEater; don't place any bolts, don't glue any holds (see, unlike Frumy I can spell), but cleaning up is always welcome. I can't think of any bolts that need replacing either. If you want to be helpful, fill some old bolt holes in nicely so that the place doesn't look such a mess at the tops of some of the walls. Or very lightly spray over existing grafitti with a pleasing variety of light tans to match the surrounding rock.
If you want to make friends, show up with a 6-pack on Tuesday or Thursday and introduce yourself. We really are a bunch of nice people - even Frumy.
Jan
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Apr 17, 2012 - 08:31pm PT
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i dunno, fattrad--it's dangerous in that remote stoney point area. the place has a reputation. i'll bet you couldn't get enough backup.
my own opinion is not to spray more paint to cover up graffiti. paint is paint and it accumulates and it doesn't take long before you're trying to climb on paint instead of rock.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Apr 17, 2012 - 10:00pm PT
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@ Purple-
Stoney Point Community,
I wanted to post a few questions to the community and see what the response would be. There are a number of climbs on the West Walls that have potential and are in need of some TLC. More specifically the Suburbia & Boy Scout Wall Area.
I would like to do the following with a high level of craftsmanship:
1. Hire Beekeepers to relocate the existing beehives to an area of less risk to climbers and children. We have been assured that this can be done without doing irreversible damage to the hive.
2. Clean many of the easy to moderate climbs. This would include glueing critical loose holds.
3. Add quality bolt anchors.
I understand that the difference in opinions may be huge. I will use the prevailing opinions as a bases to go forward. Please be constructive with your feedback.
1. Hire Beekeepers this gets an unequivocal NO from me!!! Please don't mess with the hives. They have been there forever, and are currently not polluted with Africanized DNA = not really aggressive. The routes they are usually located on are kinda crappy climbs so why bother disrupting them? They are also pollinating a large # of plants including some highly endangered ones that only grow in that area. There are plenty of places to take your kids there that are nowhere near a hive.
2. Clean many of the easy to moderate climbs: "cleaning" is sort of subjective. Brush some dirt and loose stuff off?... Knock yourself out. Gluing ?... I wouldn't bother. Paint over graffiti with housepaint... I will personally hunt you down and you will have more than a bee sting to worry about.
What routes in particular do you think need work?
3. Add quality bolt anchors: Won't work. Every time someone tries to add a new anchor it gets chopped (even off stuff that is extremely difficult to impossible to set up a TR) so save your bolts. Just bring your long ass webbing and deal like the rest of us.
Edit to add: I agree.. The most constructive thing you can do there is to pick up trash.
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