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zBrown

Ice climber

Jul 12, 2015 - 06:24pm PT

Thanks for that clarification TGT.

So if I'm understanding it, there is either ten miles of stainless steel pipe (what grade?) running from Carlsbad to the reservoir or the water is getting additives before starting it's journey?

EDIT: I missed all the intervening posts. Good thing they didn't have to use copper. It would not have stayed in place long enough for completed the flume.

TGT

Social climber

So Cal

Jul 12, 2015 - 06:37pm PT

Not talking about the reservoir, the Desal plant!

http://carlsbaddesal.com/

The Cacification towers are the last stage before the pump station to the San Diego WA Aqueduct. Not sure it even hits that reservoir.

There's another problem with copper, that's MWD's switch to chloramination instead of simple chlorine addition. That's forced all of their member agencies to adopt chloramination and if you have lower quality (read Chinese) copper plumbing in your house you will at some time in the not so distant future have the pleasure of dealing with pinhole leaks and a whole house re-piping.

zBrown

Ice climber

Jul 12, 2015 - 06:54pm PT

As I understand it, the water travels 10 miles from the plant in Carlsbad to the reservoir.

TGT

Social climber

So Cal

Jul 12, 2015 - 06:59pm PT

Yeah, it's a big uphill push.

We just sold high five figures worth of chlorination pumps that had to have special alloy heads due to the pressures involved.

Sodium hypochlorite (bleach) doesn't play well with metals. You have to use machined from billet Hasteloy C (cast won't work) or titanium.

zBrown

Ice climber

Jul 12, 2015 - 07:03pm PT

There's another problem with copper, that's MWD's switch to chloramination instead of simple chlorine addition. That's forced all of their member agencies to adopt chloramination and if you have lower quality (read Chinese) copper plumbing in your house you will at some time in the not so distant future have the pleasure of dealing with pinhole leaks and a whole house re-piping.

I knew the ST was good for something besides jokes. Now how does one go about assessing the grade of copper used in the repipe I already did?

TGT

Social climber

So Cal

Jul 12, 2015 - 07:03pm PT

You wait for the repeated leaks to appear.

(I smell a class action lawsuit here)

neebee

Social climber

calif/texas

Jul 12, 2015 - 08:26pm PT

hey there say, TGT and all... i never knew there was so much MORE to learn about water, and how it's handled... i wish they would have taught us more about that in school... :(

thanks for sharing, everyone... i still may not get all this sorted out, but it really IS interesting...

i hope whatever goes on, though, that it will work out, as real help, and not just 'tease everyone' into thinking that all is well... :(

i am going to go read that san diego link, now... oh my...

zbrown, sadly, i am not sure what to do with the info, but THANK you for sharing all the water-info maps... (i think it was you, but i will check)

MisterE

Gym climber

Being In Sierra Happy Of Place

Jul 12, 2015 - 09:45pm PT

From recent reports, the smaller of the two Palisades glaciers is all but gone.

Snow isn't bringing that back...

Ken M

Mountain climber

Los Angeles, Ca

Jul 13, 2015 - 12:06am PT

TGT is correct about the purity of advanced treated water, and the problem with piping the mineral-less water. I believe the common solution is to add minerals back.

This may be new for San Diego, but it is not new. This has been done many places, or it's alternative, spreading grounds for percolation into the ground.

I don't think the deionized water is particularly dangerous, as I've tasted this water output at three different plants. It is approved for consumption on-site by DHS, which I can't imagine if there was any real health concern.

I will say that it doesn't taste "bad", but a little "flat".

Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber

I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!

Jul 13, 2015 - 12:39am PT

best water in the US right here at 10 gallons a minute, Oly WA artesian,

only problem is the freak show next door in the park

just dig your own artesian well in your back yard and your troubles will be over,

only problem is finding the artesians to dig it,

nita

Social climber

chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.

Jul 21, 2015 - 11:48pm PT

*
Mudslide on the El Portal road...Possibly closed for a couple of days..
Mudslid @ dog rock...

and.

This is how Truckee looked today...
Crazy...but we need the precip...
and that's the 1415 news..

edit..a bit of deleting today.. from 1415 to 1404

Chaz

Trad climber

greater Boss Angeles area

Jul 22, 2015 - 08:59am PT

Almost three inches of rain here over the weekend.

It rained like crazy Saturday morning. Then it rained steady all day.

Same thing Sunday, except it rained all Sunday night too.

It soaked in nicely. I dug down over four feet yesterday ( I was burying a goat ) and the ground was soaked all the way through. Normally, in July, digging in dry Redlands clay requires a pick and a Pulaski ( and a jackhammer, if you have one ), but yesterday it was like digging in Jello.

I might not have to water my citrus trees again until Labor Day!

I told you people that Summer is the new rainy season.

Chaz

Trad climber

greater Boss Angeles area

Jul 29, 2015 - 10:37am PT

Not even 11:00am, and it's raining here.

July is kicking the crap out of January and February for rain.

Pound-sign; NewRainySeason

Ken M

Mountain climber

Los Angeles, Ca

Jul 29, 2015 - 11:47am PT

chaz, you must be in Victorville, seems the only place getting precip this morning.....

k-man

Gym climber

SCruz

Jul 29, 2015 - 12:00pm PT

Our supervisor from Mariposa county said they are expecting 50-60% tree die-off this year in the county.

What???

Reilly

Mountain climber

The Other Monrovia- CA

Jul 29, 2015 - 07:23pm PT

Never thought I'd live to hear this: an old friend with a sweet patch of
land outside Olympia, WA just said her well has gone dry after 30 years!
This is the Apocalypse, for sure.

zBrown

Ice climber

Jul 29, 2015 - 07:24pm PT

^^^ Did this supervisor have access to some scientific data or is this her opinion?

Better yet ask NASA and HuckleBee. Billions and billions of tree will die this year as will millions and millions of Americans when Iran cuts loose with a nuke

k-man

Gym climber

SCruz

Jul 29, 2015 - 09:07pm PT

Did this supervisor have access to some scientific data... ?

To be honest, I heard it third-hand from a neighbor in YoWest. Seems like a crazy figure, but I doubt she pulled it out of thin air.

I haven't been through there for a few months, going up this weekend. I'll ask around to see if I can find out more.