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TKingsbury
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MT
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Oct 27, 2011 - 12:44pm PT
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Re: Kitchen
From what I gathered actually watching livestream and the GA, the kitchen is giving more power to the working groups rather than having a centralized kitchen, this should help reduce the stress put on the main kitchen.
Some folks may feel the way the article expressed, but I heard from many people yesterday(from the kitchen group) saying "feed everyone"(Now there is a revolutionary idea!).
It's an open group(Kitchen), if someone doesn't want to cook, they don't have to, someone else will step in.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Oct 27, 2011 - 12:53pm PT
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Jeff, do you have to work at being a total horse's ass or were you born that way?
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Oct 27, 2011 - 12:55pm PT
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i wanna go to jail with fatty,
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TKingsbury
Trad climber
MT
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Oct 27, 2011 - 12:55pm PT
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Stay classy fatty...
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Oct 27, 2011 - 01:19pm PT
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criminals and professional homeless should blend right in with many of the protesters.
We have been over this already, but you don't seem to be capable of learning.
I suppose you would have been against the original tea parties methods. Well? Wouldn't you?
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Oct 27, 2011 - 01:34pm PT
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I like how each citys character is reflected in the protests.
The San Francisco protest is filthy, with piss and sh#t all over the place, the Oakland protest is dangerous and violent, and in L.A., the government's worried that protesters are trampling the lawn.
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Oct 27, 2011 - 01:35pm PT
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from michael moore:
"I do very well -- and for a documentary filmmaker, I do extremely well. That, too, drives conservatives bonkers. "You're rich because of capitalism!" they scream at me. Um, no. Didn't you take Econ 101? Capitalism is a system, a pyramid scheme of sorts, that exploits the vast majority so that the few at the top can enrich themselves more. I make my money the old school, honest way by making things."
and by not hiring union workers
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Oct 27, 2011 - 01:39pm PT
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Dirty hippies join the OWS protests: Oh the IRONY!
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Oct 27, 2011 - 01:50pm PT
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I am thrilled that the protesters are out there, but there are rules against overnight camping, they should be showing up every morning at 7AM.
Jeff, there were rules against stealing and dumping tea. Overnight camping is a small price to pay for allowing the people to voice their frustration. And this is the people's frustration.
Given an opportunity to speak and lead the people, the right seems to merely want to belittle them. What a shame.
It is also a shame that the democrat leadership is doing nothing for them either. Has even one leader gone to try and talk to them?
What a shame, but keep on ignoring them. That is the one thing that will make this movement stronger, because there is a genuine frustration with how our government leads by allowing large financial institutions to set policy.
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Oct 27, 2011 - 02:03pm PT
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a revolution won't work
the slave masters have been planning for that for a long time; and counting on that as a critical component of their long term plans
a revolution just gives them an opportunity to unleash their dogs
what will work is to cease flowing power to the criminal mighty
research the truth behind all the secrecy and disinformation and let it be widely known
and figure out how to develop a society based upon individual contributions and mutual respect that is not a pyramid scheme
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CrackAddict
Trad climber
Canoga Park, CA
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Oct 27, 2011 - 02:30pm PT
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Peoples Park. the extreme brutality of the Right on actual Hippies. And what they did in return.
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/488646/Peoples-Park-An-American-Shame-OT-Long-Pics-Political-
THESE were Hippies. REAL, actual hippies, living in the time of our greatest inter-generational solidarity and love.
In the 90's I lived half a block from People's Park. I admit to enjoying the history of it, but it turned out the same way every leftist utopian dream does - it went to $hit. Walk by there now, you are likely to get mugged, or get offered all manner of drugs. Women brace themselves for the inevitable catcalls. Drunks sleep behind bushes. The stench of urine is obvious from hundreds of feet away.
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Oct 27, 2011 - 02:33pm PT
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Rox, you lose support when you advocate killing.
I advocate a slightly higher tax rate on them and A firmer hand on the financial regulations. With penalties beyond just a few million. Some of those folks should have ended up in jail. And not just the peons who were taking orders, but the big whigs.
You will undermine this movement if you advocate killing.
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Oct 27, 2011 - 03:00pm PT
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I don't care about you.
We realize that Skip. You complain about Rox not caring about the rich, yet you are also uncaring.
Truly I say to you, Inasmuch as you have done it to one of the least of these my brothers, you have done it to me...
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Oct 27, 2011 - 03:45pm PT
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billionaires and politicians are more symptomatic of social system problems rather than being a root cause
they are simply the winners in the current system
the system has worked better than most, but is faulty and will fall apart under its own weight
the root cause is setting up our society as a Ponzi pyramid scheme
we have greater corruption and inequality in this country than in any of the middle eastern countries
however a revolution is a very bad idea and simply leads to massive destruction
recognizing the problems opens the possibilities for correcting with a more viable system
we can conceivably unravel the Ponzi scheme without destroying the society
the people fighting to keep the system working are fighting so hard to maintain something that is not workable; because they can't imagine something that is workable
people with better imaginations should be agreeing to keep the system together long enough to replace it with something more workable
there is more than enough creative energy in this country to develop a system that will be more equitable, workable and stable
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Oct 27, 2011 - 04:03pm PT
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hat part do you not understand that demagoguing any 1% of the population,
by definition, makes you a bigot?
But, we understand. We really do. Lynching people that you don't' agree
with has long and favored history in the Democrat Party.
Oh.. I see, so when we demagogue someone, according to you, that means we care for them. And of course we only hang those we care about. Got it.
In other words, you have confused posting to SuperTopo with actually helping the poor.
Uh.. don't know what you are talking about as I am fully aware of the limitations of the taco. But if you want to pretend you know, then go for it. I would say that most here on the taco think that it is you who lives in la la land, as your ideology and action here on the taco seems to be fully removed from any caring. Notwithstanding whatever non profit you have set up to buy your way into heaven.
As for me, I am just holding a conversation. A conversation that can help clarify thought, which could lead to action, but isn't yet really action.
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