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fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Jul 6, 2016 - 01:37pm PT
Well, what do you expect from a REPUBLICAN official? Seems like the Repubs have a lot to answer for, to their constituents. Tea Party II???

I dream of one day when people could overlook their tribal mentality and see reality for what it is.....

Blue or Red makes no difference. The system is rotten to the core.

We've got a garden variety narcissist acting like a clown make-believe he's running "against" a neocon warmongering criminal who isn't accountable for anything she does.

Rome must have been a similar experience towards the end.

Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Jul 6, 2016 - 01:53pm PT
As Trump spoke at his rally here…his attacks on Clinton were especially popular, and one man in the crowd repeatedly shouted: “Hang that b—-!” A reporter for the local News and Observer tweeted that as Trump criticized President Obama, someone near him shouted: “He’s a monkey!”

Gosh, what could be motivating Trump’s supporters? It’s such a mystery.
Cragar

climber
MSLA - MT
Jul 6, 2016 - 01:54pm PT
I fear ya hear!
Coach37

Social climber
Philly
Jul 6, 2016 - 02:02pm PT
"The previous administration was forthcoming with evidence, rather than stonewalling, made Libby go through indictment, trial and conviction, and then pardoned him"

There are multiple factual errors in the statement above. Who can pick them out?
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Jul 6, 2016 - 02:05pm PT
Rome must have been a similar experience towards the end.

The Roman Republic ended when its citizens traded self-determination for prosperity and security. After that, the emperor was whoever controlled the loyalty of the armed forces. The empire lasted until Constantinople fell in 1452. I doubt the US will last that long, at least as we're going now.

Lorenzo, I think I stated my point obscurely. Had Bush pardoned Libby before prosecution (as Ford did Nixon, e.g.), there would have been no public record. This administration has been particularly non-forthcoming in providing evidence relating to both the email server (because Clinton, not the State Department, had the easiest records to obtain) and the IRS scandal (All the hard drives got erased? And we were upset 43 years ago about a 20 minute gap?) While there are legitimate explanations possible, those actions don't look like those of people who want the truth known. It's that perception of deceitfulness that they need to stop, or it will hurt her campaign. While I don't see how Trump can win, why give him opportunities for easy pot shots?

John
zBrown

Ice climber
Jul 6, 2016 - 02:08pm PT
why give him opportunities for easy pot shots?

I'm sure Herr Braun would say "stupidity". I'd have to agree, but don't like to see that entering in on the Clinton side of the sideshow.

EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Jul 6, 2016 - 02:10pm PT
Does anyone still believe Libby had anything to do with outing Valery Plame?

Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jul 6, 2016 - 02:13pm PT
Does anyone still think that Clinton was responsible for the killings in Benghazi?
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jul 6, 2016 - 02:15pm PT
Yes, and yes.
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Jul 6, 2016 - 02:24pm PT
Those who believe in nothing....
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Jul 6, 2016 - 02:26pm PT
Libby stonewalled
That's why he was indicted, obstruction of justice


That's how these Republicans here talk, they forget all things that their side did and remember it some how different than the facts

then they compare their revised history to something that they are going ape over

like Benghazi

8000+ dead on Bush's watch, no concern,
4 dead on Hillary's watch, she will pay dearly
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Jul 6, 2016 - 02:29pm PT
Am I wrong

Yes.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jul 6, 2016 - 02:38pm PT
"8000+ dead on Bush's watch, no concern,
4 dead on Hillary's watch, she will pay dearly"


FAKT.
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Jul 6, 2016 - 02:39pm PT
Libby stonewalled
That's why he was indicted, obstruction of justice

Libby was thrown under the bus by Cheney. THAT is why he was indicted.

Curt
Norton

Social climber
Jul 6, 2016 - 02:44pm PT
“I can’t imagine that a Republican majority in the United States Senate would want to confirm in a lame duck session a nominee opposed by the National Rifle Association,

Mitch McConnell, Republican leader of the Senate

anyone bothered by this approach to selecting Supreme Court Justices?



Captain...or Skully

climber
Boise, ID or the fricken Bakken, variously
Jul 6, 2016 - 02:46pm PT
You nimrods can't actually LIKE this guy......anyone is better.
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Jul 6, 2016 - 02:59pm PT
Wikipedia

Libby was indicted by a federal grand jury on five felony counts of making false statements to federal investigators, perjury for lying to a federal grand jury, and obstruction of justice for impeding the course of a federal grand jury investigation concerned with the possibly illegal leaking by government officials of the classified identity of a covert agent of the CIA, Valerie Plame Wilson, the wife of former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV. Pursuant to the grand jury leak investigation, Libby was convicted on March 6, 2007, on four counts of perjury, obstruction of justice, and making false statements. He was acquitted of one count of making false statements.



They don't say anything about Cheney, even though it was Cheney that outed Valerie Plane
dirtbag

climber
Jul 6, 2016 - 02:59pm PT
Lol Esco, whatever.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jul 6, 2016 - 03:11pm PT
"anyone bothered by this approach to selecting Supreme Court Justices?"

Yes. I am.
overwatch

climber
Arizona
Jul 6, 2016 - 03:11pm PT
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