The Massive Ark on the Moon (very OT, but of high interest)

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graniteclimber

Trad climber
Nowhere
Sep 28, 2010 - 08:40pm PT
"Gosh, those rocket scientists must be idiots."

No, but some of the people who end up "in charge" of the technology they develop are. The scientists find the real problem and fix it.
WBraun

climber
Sep 28, 2010 - 08:46pm PT
After visiting this planet Earth, I would split without a word too.

Nothing but cavemen here throwing rocks at each other in so called "Advanced Forms",

They're still cave men predominately even though they've manipulated the material energy in various ways because on this planet earth we are still at the the stage of hucking rocks at each other and pounding each other over the heads with clubs.

Just plain stupid .....
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Sep 28, 2010 - 08:48pm PT
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Sep 28, 2010 - 08:56pm PT
And they had to come anywhere near our planet, let alone all the way into our atmosphere to figure out we're cavemen? Given we've been steadily broadcasting our caveman status for about a 70 lightyear radius that doesn't make the aliens sound all that bright either.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Sep 28, 2010 - 08:58pm PT
Who knows about time travel. From our perspective, that might be necessary, but again it might not be.

But suppose they have a handle on it, and they've actually zipped a bit into our future and know when is the best time for tea.

In any case, if the crafts are real and are inhabited by beings, I think we can make few assumptions about their motives and what their plans are.

Obviously they aren't here to conquer or take our resources.

But, just maybe, they are waiting to see how the NFL season progresses. They probably have a fortune bet on the Dolphins winning it all.
WBraun

climber
Sep 28, 2010 - 09:00pm PT
Just remember Joe.

Not everyone in this Universe thinks like you.

There are much more advanced folks then you have any clue to.

They don't waste their time with cavemen .......
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Sep 28, 2010 - 09:03pm PT
They obviously have been according to these guys.
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Sep 28, 2010 - 09:17pm PT
And I ain't worried about how well your balls climb, because you have no balls. The only thing I want from you, chickenhawk, is for you to get your sh#t face close enough to mine that I can beat hell out of you. If you have those balls, give me your name and location, and I will email you with the location of a suitable gym.

I'd PAY to punch you up.

dude, if i thought you were worth more than what i just flushed down the toilet, you wouldnt have to pay.

you brought up my climbing skills or are you too stupid to remember what you wrote?

get a life bitch...
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Sep 28, 2010 - 09:28pm PT
One note - when I say time travel, I just mean getting from point A to point B, not traveling into the past or future. Just traversing the distances involved amounts to time travel unless you are talking it taking generations of aliens to make the trip. Who knows? Maybe that's the case and they simply forgot what they were going to say when they got here.
WBraun

climber
Sep 28, 2010 - 09:31pm PT
Guessing won't help .....
bmacd

Trad climber
100% Canadian, Certified Kook
Sep 28, 2010 - 09:36pm PT
folded space, white holes. Is space entirley linear ?

we are limited to a 3 dimensional geometry, but extraterrestrials and others may have access to additional dimensions which shorten distances or time spent traveling. Including Bigfoot. lol ...

Can you loosen up on the hating boys ?
Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Sep 28, 2010 - 09:42pm PT
i'd like to hear the bigfoot story. just put on an extra layer of hide.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Sep 28, 2010 - 09:47pm PT
folded space, white holes. Is space entirley linear ?

That would all fall under the definition of 'time travel'. Anything you can do to short circuit the amount of time it would otherwise take to travel across many lightyears of space is by definition a form of time travel. No hatin' going on at all.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Sep 28, 2010 - 10:00pm PT
Guessing won't help .....

And you know that by guessing? Is that a gut feel thing or do you have the inside track with a cute Vimana pilot?
bmacd

Trad climber
100% Canadian, Certified Kook
Sep 28, 2010 - 10:35pm PT
HJ you're not the hater, no worries

Wonder sez:
healyje, I take offense that you keep adding sasquatch to your list. I witnessed these beings up in the Yukon & all the natives know about them as well. We were 13 or more K's out in the bush up in the middle of the territory. And I dont care if anyone believes me. It's a good memory for me.

No need for secrets Wonder, half a dozen or so STopians have shared a Sasqutch eye witness account, including me. We would love to hear yours .....

Edit: Have you ever had a bigfoot encounter ?
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1025337&msg=1241773#msg1241773
Wonder

climber
WA
Sep 28, 2010 - 10:37pm PT
Ok give me a minute, I'm a slow typer, but i use more than 2 fingers.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Sep 28, 2010 - 10:42pm PT
How about we keep Sasquatch on the Bigfoot thread and Ufos over here and god on her own thread...
Wonder

climber
WA
Sep 28, 2010 - 11:29pm PT
In 1996 I had gone up to the middle of the Yukon to a small native fishing camp along the Yukon River named Minto. South of Pelly's crossing half way to Dawson. I had driven up there in my old '72 Dodge Charger all the way from Vancouver Island.
I was there picking Morel mushrooms for the summer as there was a huge fire the summer before. Like 160,000 hectors. It had jumped the Yukon river on covered alot of trackless bush.
Late in the season I was running with some young natives and I decided to go with out to this camp they had made about 13 or more klicks oout in the bush. We rode out there on their 4 wheelers & spent more than 2 weeks out here living on moose meat & pancakes.
They asked me as we were riding out there if I had seen them yet. Seen who? Youknow, the bigfoot.
No and I didnt care to either. I just wanted to make some more money off my mushrooms before the end of the season.
Ok to make the short story long. One day as i was walking along a moose trail I looked down and there were bigfoot tracks bigger than shite. I couldn't believe it. No way, trick of the sun or something. I flagged it off and kept hiking farther out. Not much luck that day finding shrooms. So i thought I would go back and find those prints . Yep they were right there, big as ...
You know all day I felt as if there were something around. I'm way out in the bush and all alone. There's nothing and nobody out there. So i get back to camp late and tell my native friends my story and their eyes got big and they said, "There here".
That night it was a quiet night around the campfire. Just sitting there and we heard them. Like a family singing. Not just like animals. Like singing. Nothing like I have ever heard before or since. And not like for 5 min. Like for 30 min. I have heard alot of animals all over the world but nothing like this. We all looked at each other and we just knew. Me & 3 other guys & 1 girl.
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it. I dont care if any one believes my story or not, it's one of my greatest memories in life. I saw their footprints and heard them singing.
Cheers
WBraun

climber
Sep 28, 2010 - 11:30pm PT
Again!

Guessing won't help.

For a guy who knows absolutely nothing about God starts guessing it's "she".

You see ...

You're a total mental speculator.

Who has no control of his own mind .....
Wonder

climber
WA
Sep 28, 2010 - 11:30pm PT
Hj, stop trying to tell us what to do.
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