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raymond phule

climber
Jan 3, 2014 - 04:21pm PT
But that shouldn't matter in the first statement.

Is it possibly to find the anomaly data somewhere? (the data, not a graph).
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jan 3, 2014 - 04:25pm PT
1988 looks much higher for Dec 31st.

Hard to tell what the last day is, but the rest of the month is much higher.

raymond phule

climber
Jan 3, 2014 - 04:26pm PT
Where do you find the data on that page? I can't find any updated data...
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jan 3, 2014 - 04:27pm PT
Ed's got a source for NSIDC in his post.

http://nsidc.org/data/docs/noaa/g02135_seaice_index/#daily_data_files
raymond phule

climber
Jan 3, 2014 - 04:32pm PT
Yes, I downloaded those but there are no anomalies and it is going to take me same time to be able to calculate one myself due to at least some differences in sampling days.
raymond phule

climber
Jan 3, 2014 - 04:33pm PT
"It's not."

Please, give the source to the data if you do anything different than looking at the graph.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jan 3, 2014 - 04:39pm PT
How do you know, Sketch?

Are you just looking at the graph?

Not moving the goal posts Sketch, just showing how meaningless your statement is.

raymond phule

climber
Jan 3, 2014 - 04:41pm PT
The end of 2007 also seems to be higher if you look at the graph. That is also higher in the data I have.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jan 3, 2014 - 05:03pm PT
Yep, global sea ice area for Dec 31, 2007 was higher than Dec 31, 2013.

http://nsidc.org/data/docs/noaa/g02135_seaice_index/#daily_data_files
dirtbag

climber
Jan 3, 2014 - 08:21pm PT
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dirtbag

climber
Jan 3, 2014 - 08:29pm PT
It's far beyond merely teetering.
BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Jan 3, 2014 - 08:48pm PT
Did anyone else notice the irony (teetering madly on the brink of hypocrisy) of Huffy making this accusation?



You are a fear mongering lonely man that has nothing else to do in life other than seek out all the potential negative this issue may create and then frolic's in it.

Hah! You beat me to it!

I cracked up when I saw that.

I wonder what is wrong with him. Something is.
dirtbag

climber
Jan 3, 2014 - 09:08pm PT
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
dirtbag

climber
Jan 3, 2014 - 09:14pm PT
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BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Jan 3, 2014 - 09:16pm PT
See? Chief replied in ten minutes. Geez, dude. Get some help.
dirtbag

climber
Jan 3, 2014 - 09:21pm PT
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
TLP

climber
Jan 3, 2014 - 10:09pm PT
I'm curious what some of the people who post on this thread actually believe. Not what you disbelieve, but what you think is the case. Here are some choices, please pick the one that most nearly corresponds to what you think:

1. On a scale of decades (say, since 1900 or 1950), there is no trend in global temperature at all.
2. There's a warming trend on that time scale, but it's going to reverse and go back to the average for that same period (whichever one you picked) within 10, 20, maybe 30 years.
3. There's a trend of warmer temperatures, but it's so small that there's no reason to be scientifically interested or socially concerned.
4. There's a warming trend, and it's big enough that some notably bad consequences may result, or be increased by it, within a couple of decades.
5. If you think there is and will continue to be a warming trend, do you think it's entirely the result of planetary things not including human actions? or
6. If you think there's a warming trend, it is, to a signficant degree, a result of human actions (such as emission of GHGs).

For my part, I think the science supports #4 and #6. I'd love to see some actual new science showing that either 1, 2, or 5 is closer to being accurate, but haven't seen it. It may not matter much, because there won't be sufficient and coordinated global action to change any trend that's now underway for at least 10 or 20 years. That's probably unwise, but having wars is unwise too (for one or both sides) and people do it all the time. We're just going to see what happens.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jan 3, 2014 - 10:37pm PT
Who then is truly getting "dumber" by the day.

dirtbag

climber
Jan 3, 2014 - 11:39pm PT
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jan 4, 2014 - 10:10am PT
from whatsisnames favorite blog

http://www.treehugger.com/climate-change/climate-models-calendar.html


Cheese Farewell address. abridged, in his own words. Fixed for clarity and reality.

Fixed for clarity and reality.

Please do indicate another "general public" tax payer funded accessible institute in this Nation that does more to "educated" the public regarding sex education etc.,,,THE FKING CHINESE! Remember, you DO NOT SALUTE the individual.

I have no problem accepting the reality of what is now.

Well they better go grab that son of bitch and tow to SF Bay for water. Dissolving parents such as yourself of their primary responsibilities. Oh it is far beyond hilarious. Post up one of your fancy graphs that indicates the current GLOBAL SEA ICE EXTENT. And then do please cite your ref's,,,Well, this indeed has been a very interesting exchange the past couple of years.

Unfortunately for them, REALITY struck and all them statistics that they based their blown point load on, got sent off to shetville. Worse than anything else, them CLIMATE SCIENTIST get rescued by the worst perpetrator on the planet in this supposed entire AGW dooms day event....THE FKING CHINESE!

Or, could it just be you don't give a ratass who you allow to run you country. Not eeeeven thinking about holding my breath, Hmmm... maybe I'll wait to post the refs from the VA to see what you have to offer in order to validate your insistent bullshet Socialist bile rants. I suggest you stick to what you have proven you do best.

You people are so fking "stooooooopid" and full of yourselves, you don't realize how far down the path of true shetville reality you have all gone and publicly exposed yourself to.

The ENTIRE PLANET not just the area/region that you want to utilize in order to proliferate your shet agenda...I'll give you a slight hint.... Reagan, he was a tuber. Please do indicate another "general public" tax payer funded accessible institute in this Nation that does more to "educated" the public regarding sex education etc.

I will never forget that first paycheck we got after Reagan implemented it. Now I know you are smoking some bad hash 24/7. 4.6 Billion Years ... all of it. Not just the last 140 something years as you do. And what is even more delusional, you come on here and claim you and your science can remedy and control it. Thorough reading inabilities AGAIN has passed your persistent ineptness to clearly focus on the rest of the story, Let's change the verbiage to read, "Here's the TRUTH and REALITY"!

Perfecto. The above post solidifies the FACT how this is all about the ideology of the entire aspect within the Climate Science scientism agenda.

First thing Reagan did was give us an 18% raise to cover dickcheese Cater refusal to.Since you all are statistic people... chow down on this sorry one! This is for the country that's supposedly one of the highest "educated" on the planet has been trying to educate it's "girls" with the tax payers money since 1970...Now I know you are smoking some bad hash 24/7. 4.6 Billion Years.

That fkn dude refused to give any DOD mbr a decent COLA pay raise nor raise any VA bene's his entire 4.6 Billion Years in office. a Fking traitor to all his Brother in Arms. you are surely doing your side of the AGW coin a total misdeed. your pathetic socialist ideology. If you do notice, most of the indicated high child bearing women in those studies come from 3rd World Nations (Hispanics etc) and most assuredly married. Cultural values and traditions dictate there. NOT the lack of "SEX" education.

Need to add this...

ALL the latest craze throughout the world to have multiple children at one birth, well, guess how that was made possible??

So go find some dick to regurgitate that on.

So fking what? BFD! Try again, son.

You loons are seriously pathetic. Like many here, all you care about is your political agenda. If we were to live by the ideological means you wished us to, we would be seeing massive wall paintings all over: Boy wonder just can't cease to proliferate his weak self-image. He was also a very spiritual man. Fence straddling Bullshet. You fence straddler you. Titles don't mean jackshet.

Hey, please re-emphasize your stance on how you insist that the Gov't teach your children about Sex Ed in order to assist in the remedy of AGW.

Yabadabadoooo.

But ya gotta Yabadabadoooodo what ya gotta do to look good for the tribe. And you gotta love the irony in this piece of propaganda that came from the Warmist Brigade So go find some dick to regurgitate that on. Keep posting slick. You are doing wonders for the rest of the warmists here. Not only does the hypocrisy here flow. So does the ignorance of your pathetic socialist ideology. Have someone else take care of it while you all keep doing your little jerk off life.
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice

Wonders. I not once demeaned his child. Just his dumbass hypocrisy in stating that someone else other than the "6yr old girls" parents should be required to teach them about their basic sexual responsibilities.He prayed/spoke to it regularly. Who are you going to pawn her off to be educated cus you aint got the balls to teach her yourself...

You can't even control what is going to happen tomorrow or next month or even next year let alone in 100 years. Amazing how now you Socialists are going to demand that the GOV'T teach your children about sex education in order to fight AGW.

Oh the Socialist Doctrine/Ideology is coming to bear at full force.

Now I can understand why over 57% of the masses DO NOT TRUST the modern science community. Titles don't mean jackshet. Dipshets sure give them a grand reputation.More buffoon babble that shows just how this entire AGW agenda is complete political hysteria based ideological bullshet...Loooooong before anyone ever had him as a twinkle in their eyes.You will thoroughly learn how he really did not care much for institutional education. He believed that one's life was better served learning things by actually going out into the world and experiencing them, first hand. He firmly believed that a power greater than anything man could ever conceive, was truly at the helm of everything in the Universe. Everything.sadly pathetic that you are shunning your basic parental responsibilities to someone else.

But what do you expect from a higher educated moron as yourself....

Sex Education.... what a joke you pathetic lazy socialist fks are.

You Scientism types here would not like what he has to say about how one should live and look at their life in general. Not one bit actually. Notice I stated spiritual and not religious.As have the PUBLIC SCHOOLS in this Nation for the past 30 something years.


And of course, girls just get insciminated by themselves... right.


The hilarious yet very pathetic part about the whole deal is, you are all supposedly professional higher educated components within our society. Ah, that is NOT a ref to your clam. Please do post it up.... the water running out up on the Hill. No viable ref, it is complete propaganda as is most of the other crap on this thread.Check out all them CLIMATE SCIENTISTS running to CHINESE HELO........THE FKING CHINESE! Riiiiiiiiiiiiiigt. (Fixed for clarity and reality). Imagine that.Gotta love the consistency in the decimation of the fear bullshet propaganda. What we have to offer is no different than anything any of you WARMIST SCIENTISM ECO GOTTA HAVE THE GOV'T SAVE THE WORLD FREAKS do. Wonderful. Move along.... move along. Haaaaaaaaaaaaaa.... love it. (Oh please do cite a ref for this clam). Oh how the hypocrisy continues to flooooooooooooooow!
Interesting thing is, Ron, Rick S, Sketch and even Werner clearly understand and see what exactly I have done here to each and everyone of you so called highly educated buffoons.Love it. Just love it,

Yabadabadoooo...

You all on the other hand, never mind. It is obviously way above your levels of comprehension.

BITCHEN!

...better learn how to recycle your piss. BITCHEN! You loons are seriously pathetic. You are a fear mongering lonely man that has nothing else to do in life other than seek out all the potential negative this issue may create and then frolic's in it.All the while, you live your life business as usual. if you indeed are the "model forecaster" of this entity known as the extravagant AGW ideology, then it is most assuredly safe to say with 100% certainty....Riiiiiiiiiiiiiigt?
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaa.... love it. SEA ICE EXTENT...... For lake tahoe? Hypocrite AND Liar. Obviously a perfect fit for your completely worthless kiss ass lap dogging posts: And believe me, you can not eeeeven fathom how much of a last laugh I have had in all this. Oh it is far beyond hilarious. And it is essential that we PONDER on the worst and not tell the rest of the story in order to proliferate the bullshet so we can promote the ideology and the agenda.What we have to offer is no different than anything any of you WARMIST SCIENTISM ECO GOTTA HAVE THE GOV'T SAVE THE WORLD FREAKS do.
Keep posting slick

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