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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
While the link between fireworks and geo-engineering vis-a-vis chemtrails is well known in the scientific community,
Only if we allow a very broad extrapolation of the term "scientific community" to include uneducated people, non-scientists, and demented and illiterate hoaxers.
THE CLOWN SAYS THAT HE WILL BE BRINGING HIS PRIVATE CIRCUS TO CLEVELAND
Trump is so toxic to the Republican Party, nobody wants to get anywhere near him, and especially not during a televised National Convention. GOP Senators, Governors, Mayors and others who, in a normal year, would be eager to see and be seen on the convention floor, are unable to stomach the feculent stench of this year's soiree. The normal cast of characters is already too ill to climb stairs to the rostrum and address the crowd.
So, there is a big surplus of speaking slots at the convention that none of the usual suspects are going to fill. They'll be staying home, on the other side of the television broadcast, hunched over plastic waste buckets, unable to believe what they are watching. There will be a agitated mob on the convention floor, anxious to hear the GOP Final Wisdom, right before the big election kicks off.
This means that Trump, their Fearless Leader, is going to have to come up with some alternative speakers to fill out the excruciating ennui of listening to King Trump talk about walls, and moats and torture and beheadings.
Trump has assured everyone, in advance, that he has the situation well in hand.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/01/politics/donald-trump-convention-children-speakers/index.html
Trump says that his wives and children "are all going to be speaking" at the convention, addressing delegates and the GOP viewership at home. This is an astonishing line-up, given that Trump's three wives have never been in the same room together. Furthermore, Trump's son, Baron, is only ten years old, but he may be able to explain to the convention (and his father) that the President doesn't have unlimited powers. If the TV networks can keep their cameras focused on Tiffany while Eric is speaking, the world would be grateful.
Trump also says that he has a surprise roster of "very, very interesting" speakers lined up, comprising sports figures, movie stars, business associates, former beauty queens, Apprentice alumni, a Motor City madman, and a handful of fake wrestlers carrying their WWE boss, Vince McMahon. Legendary football coach Mike Ditka is rumored to be on the list of speakers, as is Fox News regular Ann Coulter. Many of Trump's supporters would also like to hear from clueless actress Stacy Dash (who, ironically, was once in a movie called Clueless).
It is safe to say that this year's GOP circus in Cleveland is going to attract the attention of just about every television-equipped person on earth.
It is not going to be politics as usual at the Republican National Convention. It is going to be Trump-centric improvisational street theater, brought under the Big Top for the very first time.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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SCIENTISTS SAY THEY HAVE DISCOVERED BRAIN-EATING AMOEBAS IN OHIO'S WATER
EXPERTS PREDICT TRUMP WILL BE A TREMENDOUS SUCCESS AT CLEVELAND CONVENTION
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/03/health/high-levels-brain-eating-amoeba/index.html
Hitler used to put meth in the water at his rallies.
For Trump, it's brain-eating amoebas.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/01/health/become-a-human-lie-detector/index.html
When someone has something to hide, they will also be more likely to justify what they do say, be on the lookout for a reaction, and use fragmented sentences when they can, according to research conducted by R. Edward Geiselman, professor of psychology at the University of California at Los Angeles.
they will also be more likely to justify what they do say
BELIEVE ME. LET ME TELL YOU. I PROMISE.
be on the lookout for a reaction
AM I RIGHT?
use fragmented sentences when they can
“It’s boring. Although I love Tom Brady — but it’s become soft, like our country has become soft,” Trump said, referring to the Patriots quarterback.
"And I would love to," he continued. "But if I do talk about it, then what happens, is, that takes up -- then we're not talking about the horrible economy."
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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But the image that Trump chose to illustrate his point, which portrayed a red Star of David shape slapped onto a bed of $100 bills, had origins in the online white-supremacist movement
“We’ve been alarmed that Mr. Trump hasn’t spoken out vociferously against these anti-Semites and racists and misogynists who continue to support him,” said Jonathan Greenblatt, chief executive of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL). “It’s been outrageous to see him retweeting and now sourcing material from the website and other online resources from this crowd.”
That was more than enough time for critics and supporters to ask what exactly Trump was doing. On white-supremacist forums, Trump was cheered for apparently declaring his solidarity through not-so-subtle code.
“The evangelicals will listen to his pro-Israel statements, while we will listen to his signals,” Andrew Anglin wrote in the Daily Stormer, a racist site named after Nazi propagandist Julius Streicher’s notorious tabloid. “By pushing this into the media, the Jews bring to the public the fact that yes, the majority of Hilary’s [sic] donors are filthy Jew terrorists.”
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c wilmot
climber
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I have a gold star on my "real id"
anyone outraged?
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monolith
climber
state of being
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^^^ Everyone of them will be giving speeches at the repub convention. How else will Trump fill the speaking slots? ^^^
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dirtbag
climber
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He's such a racist.
Edit: ya know crankster.
If this was a one time deal, maybe not. It could be explained away as an over zealous staff member eager to slam Hillary. That happens.
But every week, it's something new.
His failure to disavow David Duke; the Mexican judge; comments about banning people with hijabs from working at the tsa; his previous retweets of blatantly racist materials from blatantly racist website. I know I'm forgetting dozens of similar incidents.
No: not isolated. He's a f*#king racist piece of garbage dog whistling to other racists.
Any one of the incidents I just described would have sunk any other candidate, republican or democrat. I can only conclude his fervent supporters, including ones here, are racist too.
This election is depressing.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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If Trump needs to fill some speaking slots he might consider Pee Wee Herman and the empty popcorn bag...
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Hillary will not be charged with anything. Sorry, Chump.
Donald Trump just heard that Hillary Clinton won’t face charges from the FBI and he went ballistic. Conservatives have been frothing at the mouth over the prospect of Hillary Clinton being arrested and jailed over whatever imaginary crimes they believe she has committed. But after meeting personally with the FBI about her so-called email “scandal,” it is now expected that the investigation will be dropped and no charges will be filed.
This comes on the heels of the Republican report on Benghazi that cleared Clinton of any wrongdoing after four years and $7 million spent trying to find anything to pin on the former Secretary of State.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/07/03/donald-trump-throws-temper-tantrum-after-fbi-doesnt-charge-hillary-clinton-tweets/
Curt
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/science-isnt-broken/#part2
Here's some good, clean fun (you can't catch a disease from playing along).
Statistically speaking (damned lies), do the Dems or Repubs have a more positive or negative effect on the economy?
The whole article is a very good read about the "reliability" of science. But for our purposes on this thread, just check out the interactive P-value chart near the top of the article. It's about whether "your research" is publishable, but the "research" itself says a lot about statistical "analysis" and interpretation.
Choose your factors and metrics, watch in real time to get the results your "theory" predicts, and employ verificationism to "know" that you were right all along! Good, clean fun.
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Can we get any line on how many posts will exist here by November before Hillary's coronation?
Opinion and Science
Unless you live or work with someone for many years you cannot honestly make a judgement about that person's personality, values, or character.
For those of us (probably everyone that posts on this forum) who don't actually know these presidential candidates personally, our best hope is to vote our conscious in November based upon the candidates performance, experience, and track record at serving the public, however we may view that perspective with whatever limited secondhand knowledge we have allowed ourselves to be informed with.
Any more than that regarding our opinions about whatever these candidates do or say is pure conjecture and I'm surprised at the level of play that the 'climbers' here have given to these otherwise mundane, overly ambitious politicians.
Meanwhile,
I have scientifically determined that posting on these political threads is not healthy for me based upon test results;
My blood pressure this morning at 7:30 am was 122 over 80. After reading today's posts on this thread and after posting here myself it was 135 over 90. Other times that I have read and chimed in here I have tested my BP before and after with similar results.
I'm afraid no amount of political humor or poetry from my corner is going to reverse these test results by all that much so I would be better served spending the time riding my bike.
Footnote;
My mother spent over forty years in public education and earned her doctorate as an educator three years before she died in 2005. In her last job she taught at Azusa Pacific as a professor up until the time she became too ill to continue working.
She also was a member of an altruistic fraternity of educators for many years and traveled to Central and South America, Africa, and China with colleagues teaching educators in other nations new teaching techniques.
She and I had a connection with similar opinions and tastes regarding progressive social democratic reforms, art, science, and philosophy.
That being said, it was my dying mother's fervent hope in her last year on this earth that Hillary Clinton one day be elected to the presidency and we both saw eye to eye on politics. So you can only guess where I firmly stand. May the best man or woman win.
Sayonara,
-bushman
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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AS Rush likes to say, "He's living rent-free in his head".
Referencing Obama starting to get flustered by Trump's success. Hillary starting to get desperate too.
Obama can not speak off teleprompter, Just listen to him.
"Bah, bah, abha, bah, but I think..." The emperor is wearing no clothes, and he knows it!
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dikhed
climber
State of fugue and disbelief
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prolly
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Cracker...? This prolly means you're one of those trump racists...
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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^^^^^
Leave up to a Candian to know what's REALLY goin' happen
Susan
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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The true measure of a man is his family. Donald J. Trump's family is amazing. All good children, respectful, well balanced, kind, hard working, empathetic, and successful. Beautiful wife who is also smart with good morals. He has a great family.
His family truly is a measure of the man Donald J. Trump ...
Joseph and Magda had a very nice family. They presented the perfect picture of domestic bliss, right up to the day they had their dentist inject all the children with morphine, so that Magda could personally crush cyanide capsules in their mouths while they were incapacitated.
Heinrich Himmler was a monster who deluded himself into believing that his nice, decent family conferred similar status on himself.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2546420/Love-letters-Nazi-monster-Newly-revealed-private-papers-death-camp-chief-Himmler-deluded-decent-family-man.html
Charles Manson and his family will be studied by criminal psychologists long into the future.
Ivanka and Donald Jr. have both been implicated as active co-conspirators in some of The Donald's nefarious business chicanery. Both children have been named as defendants in multiple lawsuits by people who have been ripped off, defrauded or otherwise injured economically. In other words, Ivanka and Donald Jr. were cast from the same sordid mold as their father.
To say that Ivanka is empathetic is an erroneous generalization. While she may be a saint to those within a certain social circle, she can be a hard-nosed, callous harridan when conducting business. She once withheld a multi-million dollar payment for diamond jewelry delivered to her NYC business, with the excuse that her AutoCAD design drawings were returned to her one day too late. The small-scale jeweler had to sue the mighty Ivanka to obtain payment. Ivanka's intransigence was intended to harass, annoy and hopefully destroy the small businessman by dissipating his resources with legal fees.
Eric stated that waterboarding and torture were "no different from what goes on, every day, on every campus and in every fraternity house, all across America". In other words, Eric is just as sadistic and callous as his father.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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When I refer to the "frothy left," it's pretty clear from the above that I'm not missing the boat.
When I and many others state that comparing statues to behavior makes it pretty clear that Hillary is a criminal (regardless of what political machinations infect the investigation process), that's called "without merit" and "way over the top." But comparing Trump to the vilest of the Nazis has just become standard fare among the libs.
It's froth, it's nonsense, and it is beyond the pale. Come on, guys, let's ratchet the rhetoric back in quite a few notches. Trump's an epic prick; there's no doubt. But let's back off of the Nazi comparisons, shall we?
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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But comparing Trump to the vilest of the Nazis has just become standard fare among the libs.
I wasn't comparing Trump to Nazis in the family portrait post above.
Klimmer made the fallacious argument that since Trump's family is (allegedly) nice and decent, then Trump must be nice and decent, too.
I gave two famous examples to disprove that false conclusion. I figured people would have some knowledge of those people, given their outsized roles as some of the worst people to have ever lived.
I could have just as easily used pop-tart Lindsay Lohan's father, Michael, as an example of a bad guy (prison time for securities fraud) with a (allegedly) good family.
Or Richard Kuklinski (WHO???) whose family life was so idyllic, that when he was arrested for the mob-contracted killing of 100+ people, his wife and children were truley shocked and amazed to learn what "daddy's day job" really was.
Or Al Capone, who famously posed for photos with his son at White Sox games, the apparently perfect parent when not machine-gunning his business rivals to death in their places of business.
I will accurately compare Trump to the Nazis here, instead.
Trump called for the forcible arrest, transport and relocation of 11 million "undesirables" in order to ethnic cleanse the United States. Trump said that he was going to actually, physically and tangibly make that happen. It was a major Trump talking point throughout the primary campaign season. The only thing missing from Trump's airplane-hangar blatherings was specific details involving heavily armed goons, padlocked railroad cars and tooth-extraction specialists to harvest gold to pay for it all.
Trump has also called for torturing suspects during interrogations, and "even if it doesn't work, they deserve what they get". Hitler, similarly relished the idea of torture, and slow, painful deaths for his enemies. With Eric Trump as the Minister of Truth, piano-wire nooses will come back into fashion after a hiatus of 70 years.
Trump has invoked Hitler's concept of Lebensraum (invading other countries to confiscate their resources), by saying, "I am going to go in there, and I am going to take the oil".
Hitler ordered the construction of a hundreds-of-miles long Atlantic Wall, to keep foreigners from infiltrating his new empire. Trump has also called for a barrier wall, and will certainly see America as his new empire if he is elected.
So, the Trump comparison to Hitler is not tenuous, at all.
Hitler was a Nazi. Ergo, the Trump comparison to Nazis is not tenuous, at all.
Q.E.D.
There is only a difference of degree, and not one of substance.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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I have a friend who is voting for trump because trump is anti sematic and against jewish money-influence in US politics...I don't know if there's any truth to these allegation but there's something more odiferous about Trump...He's the typical rich as#@&%e who will do anything to make a quick buck off of someone elses hard labor...this makes him the perfect candidate for poor voters who are scraping by economically...Stealing tips from employees is the tip of the iceberg for Trump and more proof of his narcissistic personality where one thinks anything he does is peachy keen...
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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I do see you're testing your excuse when no charges are brought: "political machinations!"
I'm not "testing" anything. I've said from the start that charges would probably not be brought, which, like the OJ trial, will have no relation to the facts of guilt or innocence.
By contrast, let's say that Trump is everything you claim in the way of a white supremacist, racist, etc. That's still light years from being equivalent to the vilest of the Nazis! Being prejudiced isn't equivalent to acting on the prejudice, and the vast majority of bigots in this nation would never imagine to actually act like Nazis. Their behaviors are far more subtle and self-deceptive.
So, your response to my calling your "Nazi" assertions "froth" is to say that I'm "just as frothy" regarding Hillary. Fine. I don't believe that's the case, but your response effectively says: "It's impossible in principle to find any common ground upon which to recognize just how reprehensible BOTH candidates are, which would inform some systematic discussion about the reprehensible state of BOTH parties, given that these are BOTH the 'best' candidates that they can offer us."
So, the nation will become increasingly divided, the parties will continue to rule, we will ALL be the losers regardless of party affiliation, and at least half of the nation will wring its hands at any given moment. Yeah, "democracy" at its finest. Ironically, it has always been thus, and so it will continue to be.
Fruitless discussion; I should not have dipped my toes into this water again. I stand corrected and will now shake them dry once more.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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It actually makes sense to stop comparing Trump to Hitler. It is a tired, but accurate, comparison that has lost its inherently powerful message of warning. It is now so over-used, that it basically means nothing.
If you repeat the same truth over and over and over, it eventually becomes a lie.
It is more appropriate, at this time, to compare Trump to Charles Manson.
They have both hit upon a strange brew of charisma, prescience and anger that has deflated the IQs of their followers. Their followers are mesmerized by bizarre talk of a future that substantially differs from any reality, except perhaps one within a fictitious parallel universe.
Both Manson and Trump have successfully ordered their followers (the Manchurian followers) to go forth and commit heinous acts of violence against fellow citizens. Even after being widely discredited and reviled, both in court and in the public opinion, both Trump and Manson retain a sizable following of dupes, boobs and slaves who all but worship their respective false messiahs.
Manson, at one time, was a talented musician who attracted the notice of several music producers and even one of the Beach Boys. Then, he snapped and became the world-famous monster that he is today.
Trump, at one time, was a talented real estate developer who attracted the attention of several large investors, including the biggest banks in New York City. Then, he snapped and became the world-famous monster that he is today.
Trump is like Manson.
Manson is like Trump.
This is an example of the Symmetric Property of Reality.
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