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zBrown
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Take the short cut and read the buch Mein Kampf. Trump himself doesn't read but he has a bunch of losers interpret stuff for him.
Only the Jew knew that by an able and persistent use of propaganda heaven itself can be presented to the people as if it were hell and, vice versa, the most miserable kind of life can be presented as if it were paradise. The Jew knew this and acted accordingly. But the German, or rather his Government, did not have the slightest suspicion of it. During the War the heaviest of penalties had to be paid for that ignorance.
Industry, technology, and commerce can thrive only as long as an idealistic national community offers the necessary preconditions. And these do not lie in material egoism, but in a spirit of sacrifice and joyful renunciation.
“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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I don't doubt for a minute that Hope Hicks and the rest of Trump's media crew scour the internet for material for Herr Drumpfkopf to retweet. And, I don't doubt that many people send in photos for him to retweet.
Trump is the least original, most derivative person in politics. All of his "great" talking points are recycled garbage that he has obtained by dumpster-diving into the rubbish bin of history.
It is quite obvious that most of Trump's material comes from other people.
But, retweeting an anti-Semitic message is just as bad as posting it for the first time.
Are Drumpfkopf, Hope Hicks, and the rest of his crew too lazy or too stupid to filter out the blatantly racist and bigoted images?
No.
Trump and Company are racist and bigoted, and they post offensive images because they believe that is an appropriate thing to do.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Here's DJ's latest twitter feed;
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 5h5 hours ago
I believe that Crooked Hillary sent Bill to have the meeting with the U.S.A.G. So Bill is not in trouble with H except that he got caught!
3,616 retweets 10,958 likes
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 5h5 hours ago
The SECRET meeting between Bill Clinton and the U.S.A.G. in back of closed plane was heightened with FBI shouting "go away, no pictures."
4,505 retweets 11,525 likes
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 5h5 hours ago
Does anybody really believe that Bill Clinton and the U.S.A.G. talked only about "grandkids" and golf for 37 minutes in plane on tarmac?
4,618 retweets 12,217 likes
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago
"THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED!"
6,016 retweets 14,627 likes
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago
On Saturday a great man, Elie Wiesel, passed away.The world is a better place because of him and his belief that good can triumph over evil!
3,731 retweets 12,735 likes
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago
Crooked Hillary Clinton knew that her husband wanted to meet with the U.S.A.G. to work out a deal. The system is totally rigged & corrupt!
5,899 retweets 15,616 likes
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago
Only a fool would believe that the meeting between Bill Clinton and the U.S.A.G. was not arranged or that Crooked Hillary did not know.
6,384 retweets 17,399 likes
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 9h9 hours ago
Just watched @meetthepress and how totally biased against me Chuck Todd, and the entire show, is against me.The good news-the people get it!
4,516 retweets 14,989 likes
Good stuff!
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Trump twittted
I have to agree, one out of eight is pretty good for Trump
On Saturday a great man, Elie Wiesel, passed away.The world is a better place because of him and his belief that good can triumph over evil!
Obviously ghost written though. Trump had no idea who Mr. Wiesel was.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Obviously ghost written though. Trump had no idea who Mr. Wiesel was.
My man just can't win with some people.
EDIT: Jimmy, everybody's talking about his tweets with the stupid SoD on it. I thought I'd throw out his latest.
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Sigh.
Klimmer, I had made a promise to myself to never react again to your bullsh#t, but here I am............
Has it ever occurred to you that you accept all reasons why Der Trump is not responsible for what he says but all others are? Keep drinking the Kool-Aid. You should read your posts with a neutral mind; you'd be shocked.
Trump re-tweets (the archived web site stuff is absolutely clear about this) Nazi Jewish bullshit and you don't see a problem with this? Aren't you Jewish? You should be furious. I am.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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OK blue, you busted me. I have no idea whether Trump knew who Elie Wiesel was.
I will look into it and report back.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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I would not be surprised to learn that Trump, like Saddam Hussein before him, uses surgically-altered body doubles to do his speaking for him.
Hope Hicks writes Trump's twitter feed. She is his press secretary.
Trump gets all his "great ideas" from other people.
To Wit:
Trump got his import-averse economic platform from a previous century's demagogue who also had a funny haircut.
Trump's regressive economic plan to "build a wall", restrict imports, abandon free-trade economic treaties and make America economically self-sufficient comes to us, via the Trump Time Machine, all the way from 1920's Germany.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/commandingheights/lo/countries/de/de_trade.html
1919-1932: Exports decline to 15 percent of GDP in the late '20s. Foretelling the Nazi goal for self-reliance, Hitler writes in "Mein Kampf," "[W]e are finally putting a stop to the colonial and trade policy of the prewar period and passing over to the territorial policy of the future."
1933-1944: The Nazi regime aims for economic self-sufficiency (autarchy) through industrial policy and bartering for raw materials with nearby states. The shift away from trade-oriented growth, together with the global depression, contributes to a fall in trade to only 6 percent of GDP in the late '30s. Once war begins, occupied territories are exploited for raw materials and labor.
When Hitler's economic plan for self-sufficiency failed, the Nazis resorted to an atavistic imperial military campaign to seize territory from other nations. Five years later, Hitler was dead in his bunker, and Germany was rended and in ruins.
What is Trump going to do when his recycled Mein Kampf economic plan backfires, the way it did 75 years previously?
Tear down his own wall, and invade Mexico? Or invade Canada?
Notice that the post-war shift away from Hitler's isolationist "self-sufficiency" led to rapid economic growth, despite the total destruction of Germany's industrial infrastructure. Germany's presence in the European Union was a major factor in that country's economic success.
1950-1956: Germany joins the European Coal and Steel Community, a free-trade arrangement that will develop into the European Union. Increasingly open trade in Europe and the world helps Germany's rapidly growing export economy. A long period of consistent trade surpluses begins.
1957-1970: Germany helps found the European Economic Community through the Treaty of Rome in 1957, boosting Germany's export economy. Germany's famed engineering prowess allows production of high-quality manufactured exports that drive the economic miracle. Exports rise from 17 percent of GDP to 24 percent in 1970; trade surpluses will persist until 1990.
Trump is a witless buffoon, rehashing failed economic plans and other disastrous ideas that he has gotten from moldy books that he found in his grandmother's attic.
Trump is as non-progressive as politicians get.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Almost 13,000... Keep this thread productive guys. Good stuff here.
Can we get any line on how many posts will exist here by November before Hillary's coronation?
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Trump wants to bring back jobs to the U.S. True.
False. He could have had his Trump products made in the USA, bringing back jobs, but did not do so. He's a billionaire, he could afford it.
What is true is that he has said it, because you want to hear it.
He wants to renegotiate our trade deals with the world. They need to be more fair. True.
False. He wants to use the leverage of the US to bully others into terms that are more slanted. That is not fair, but biased. He will eliminate the provisions that prohibit child labor, and require a living wage, because that is fair for the "darkies".
He wants our borders secure and controlled. True.
False, our borders are secure and controlled. But by making you afraid that they are not, you love him coming to your rescue.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Trump wants to bring back jobs to the U.S. True.
False. He could have had his Trump products made in the USA, bringing back jobs, but did not do so. He's a billionaire, he could afford it.
What is true is that he has said it, because you want to hear it.
Exactly.
Trump doesn't care about creating jobs in America. He only cares about saying what people want to hear.
Trump is a handshake-dullard shape-shifter used-car salesman who adapts himself to what he perceives his buyer wants to hear. He is perceptive, cunning, wily, deceptive and sociopathic.
Trump doesn't pay extra money at Mar-a-Lago to employ snotty white punks from West Palm Beach. He pays as little as possible to waiters, busboys and dishwashers. They are mostly immigrants, some of them in the U.S. illegally. Trump is such a cheap, chiseling weasel, his employees have to sue him in court to get paid.
Trump was in West Virginia, speaking to a bunch of unemployed coal miners. He was talking as if the Power of Trump would bring back the coal industry's heyday, perhaps through a magical Christ-like resurrection of long-dead steam locomotive technology.
(Trump is a closet Steam Punker . . . . . )
I am waiting for Trump to babble his retrospective nonsense to unemployed textile workers. Then, it would be much clearer that Trump is a lying sack of sh#t, because his signature Trump clothing is made in China.
Trump was in Pennsylvania, babbling about bringing back the steel industry's heyday, presumably by blocking imports of Chinese and Indian steel.
I am researching where Trump got the steel he used to build his skyscraper in Chicago that was completed in 2009.
I would bet that the steel was imported. This is based on the fact that the steel for the new San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge came from China (with a small amount from England, of all places). Also, twenty years ago, I saw that rebar and steel fittings for concrete work here in California were made in China and India.
Five-will-get-you-ten that Trump Chicago Tower's rebar wasn't made in the United States.
Ironically, the hotel bar in the Trump Chicago Tower is called Rebar, in case anybody living in Pennsylvania's distressed steel mill towns didn't get the joke the first time, when Trump told it to them in person.
When Trump tells steel workers he will return jobs to their steel mills, he is completely full of sh#t.
If Chinese steel is cheaper than American steel, Trump is going to buy Chinese steel.
Trust me. Believe me. Absolutely. I guarantee it.
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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here you go fear:
posts per month
total in months prior to jan: 2687
jan: 439
feb: 754
mar: 1555
apr: 1004
may: 2942
jun: 3761
first six months of this year gives a relatively linear relationship between monthly increases [except for some slacking that happened in april]:
using the linear line of best fit and projecting it through to november 8 gives a total of
34797 posts by nov. 8
[this includes a projected 5944 posts in the month of october, if the same ramping up of interest is sustained...]
:)
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Assume March was a bit anomalous and fit the data to an exponential curve.
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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ask and you shall receive:
extrapolating that line of best fit through to nov. 8 gives us:
67207 posts [with 7777 in the month of october or an average of 250 per day during that month]
it's going to be a grind, but we can do it!
this thread is going to be YUGE!!!1!!1!
[Klimmer don't fail us now. we... can't... quit... you.]
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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^^^^^^^^^ That seems like a better fit.
I used to do a bit of that curve-fitting in school. The business guys, even the MBA candidates, would talk about "linear programming" like it was the Truth, and they would try to have all their economic data regress to straight lines.
If the engineers did that, nothing would work. We had to fit data to very strange, high-order polynomials and transcendental curves like exponentials.
I will have to write a php computer program - Klimm-Er-Matic - to automatically post Trump-based nonsense that has been retrieved from the internet.
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dikhed
climber
State of fugue and disbelief
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Can we get any line on how many posts will exist here by November before Hillary's coronation?
Rimmilk will probably delete all his so the thread should disappear
vvvv artistic licence with klimmer spelled backwards. It is so close I said why not
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Rimmilk will probably delete all his so the thread should disappear
RIM MILK - ???????
I'm afraid to ask .. . . . . it sounds related to a Rim-something else.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Trump may, indeed, be the master skater, when it comes to riding the razor-thin edge between criminal activity and getting away with it. But, that doesn't mean what he does is right, or moral, or the appropriate thing to do.
Trump adds on a 22% gratuity for the food service when he rents out Trump SOHO Tower's banquet room. He figures that he can keep the waitresses' tips for himself, because technically, he isn't the one who hires the catering staff. New York State law prohibits that exact thing from occurring, though. So, the Trump SOHO waitresses are now suing to recover the gratuity income Trump has stolen from them.
Similarly, Trump worked his catering staff at Mar-a-Lago for up to 20 hours per day during an extended Passover event that lasted about a week. The workers were illegally denied state-mandated breaks to rest and eat meals. They were basically on their feet the entire time, running around, making sure a bunch of high-bred, elitist socialites were adequately fed and watered.
Trump (illegally) refused to pay state-mandated overtime wages to his workers. This was despite the horrendously long hours they had worked (presumably because Trump was too cheap to hire extra workers for the event). His workers, again, had to take Trump to court and sue him to get paid for the work that they had already performed.
Any fool can "turn a good profit" if his M.O. is to screw the other people involved in his business.
Jeff Bezos, of Amazon, claimed that the Amazon Prime Now delivery service was profitable. He made a big claim of being "more efficient" than UPS or Fedex, when it came to delivering boxes to people's houses.
That was because Bezos illegally treated his employee drivers as though they were "independent contractors". Amazon shifted the corporation's employee-related tax burden and delivery vehicle expenses onto the employees themselves. They were not independent contractors. The employees had no control of the hours they worked, what clothing they wore, how they performed their work and when they could take breaks. The only independent part of their job was that they independently had to provide their own delivery vehicle at their own expense. According to a lawsuit filed by the drivers, they would earn less than $5.00/hour after deducting vehicle-related expenses. Amazon's ads on Craigslist fraudulently promised drivers $25/hour.
Also, Amazon collected a gratuity fee of about $5 per delivery. But, like Trump in SOHO, Bezos kept the gratuities for himself, and did not forward them to the drivers. Not only that, to ensure maximum efficiency of theft of the gratuities, Amazon insisted that they be charged to the buyers' Amazon accounts, and it was forbidden for customers to pay any cash to the drivers (in contravention of an ancient tradition of how tips and gratuities have been paid). The drivers are suing Amazon to recover the gratuity money that has been stolen from them.
http://www.thenationaltriallawyers.org/2016/01/amazon-prime-now-workers-are-done-paying-the-price-for-fast-delivery/
“Amazon’s mission to deliver ‘Now’ at no additional cost is being funded by its delivery drivers"
 Beth Ross, the attorney representing the drivers.
Naturally, Bezos is the only one who is allowed to exploit people. Nobody gets to exploit him.
The United States Supreme Court ruled in late 2014 that Amazon does not need to pay its warehouse workers for the time they are forced to spend going through security checkpoints at the end of their shifts to prevent warehouse theft. The class action plaintiffs said they spent up to 30 minutes each day waiting in line to leave work because of inadequate security staff and scanning equipment.
Notice that Bezos took the fight all the way to the Supreme Court, rather than accommodate employees with more security staff, or even something as simple as staggering work shifts so that hundreds of workers didn't arrive at a chokepoint all at the same time.
Jeff Bezos sounds like he'd be a perfect vice-presidential candidate for Trump. They're both billionaires. They're both self-centered. They're both good at "working the system" to enrich themselves at the expense of others. They both have secret, insider knowledge of "new" and "better" ways to get things done. They both ignore rules and regulations. And, they both have a self-conferred sense of entitlement that they believe justifies callously stealing from lesser mortals.
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