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michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Mar 1, 2012 - 02:13pm PT
Probably because lawyers are like $300 an hour.
lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
Mar 1, 2012 - 02:24pm PT
Stupid Sidmo

You wrote “it is about being informed and that should come first, out front and center if you disagree then you’re probably looking at the issue with a narrow focus – try to broaden it and consider things from all perspectives” in other words, think about it differently just for fun – maybe you’ll change your mind”

So you are not paranoid then why not go for it. Don’t need permission just yourself. Might take a couple of months to hear back.

http://www.Foia.gov

Requesting FBI Records

FBI records can be requested through both the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) and the Privacy Act. Please read this page carefully to ensure you are making the correct request.

Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) Request

The Freedom of Information Act allows any person—except fugitives, federal agencies, and foreign intelligence agencies—to request information about organizations, businesses, investigations, historical events, incidents, groups, or deceased persons.

To submit a Freedom of Information Act request, use one of the following options:

Option 1: Submit your request using the Sample FOIA Request Letter. The form includes instructions.

Note: you cannot use the eFOIA Form to submit a Privacy Act Request about yourself or another living person. Please use the U.S. Department of Justice Certification of Identity Form DOJ-361.

Option 2: Mail, fax, or e-mail your submission to:

Federal Bureau of Investigation
Attn: FOI/PA Request
Record/Information Dissemination Section
170 Marcel Drive
Winchester, VA 22602-4843
Fax: (540) 868-4391/4997
E-mail: foiparequest@ic.fbi.gov

Letter and e-mail format:

Provide your complete name and mailing address. Telephone, fax, and e-mail addresses are optional.

Provide any identifying data that will help us locate information—for example, the subject’s complete name, aliases [sidmo, chainsaw or Fred], date and place of birth, social security number, former addresses, or localities.

If you are interested in records pertaining to a particular incident, please describe it in detail.

If your request is for information about another living person, that information is usually not disclosed unless you have obtained the person’s written consent or unless public disclosure is authorized by law. Requests for information about another living person should be accompanied by evidence of the subject's consent. Please use U.S. Department of Justice Certification of Identity Form DOJ-361 and complete the section identified as: Authorization to Release Information to Another Person. You may submit an attachment listing additional information that may aid in locating responsive records. Please place your name and contact information on the attachment.

State how much you are willing to pay for duplication fees if any are assessed. Refer to the U.S. Department of Justice FOIA Reference Guide.

For more information:

Overview of the Freedom of Information Act

Freedom of Information Act Exemptions

Freedom of Information Act/Privacy Act Terms

Privacy Act Request

The Privacy Act allows U.S. citizens and lawfully admitted aliens to request information on themselves or another living person.

If you are requesting information about yourself, you must use one of the following options:

Option 1: Use the U.S. Department of Justice Certification of Identity Form DOJ-361. You may submit an attachment listing additional information that may aid in locating responsive records. Please place your name and contact information on the attachment.

Option 2: Following the instructions in U.S. Department of Justice Certification of Identity Form DOJ-361, submit a letter to the FBI, sign your request, and have it notarized or state, “Under penalty of perjury, I hereby declare that I am the person named above and I understand that any falsification of this statement is punishable under the provisions of Title 18, United States Code (U.S.C.), Section 1001 by a fine of not more than $10,000 or by imprisonment of not more than five years, or both; and that requesting or obtaining any record(s) under false pretenses is punishable under the provisions of Title 5, U. S. C., Section 552a(i)(3) as a misdemeanor and by a fine of not more than $5,000.”

Mail, fax, or e-mail this letter to the following:

Federal Bureau of Investigation
Attn: FOI/PA Request
Record/Information Dissemination Section
170 Marcel Drive
Winchester, VA 22602-4843
Fax: (540) 868-4391/4997

Sample FBI FOIA Request Letter

Instructions

Please provide a detailed description. For example, if requesting records on person of interest, you could write: sidmo, [who went and goes by the real name of person below this form] who participated in recovery of drugs/monies/coke/black book/Thai sticks from a down plane crash in Yosemite National Park in 1978.

If your request is for information concerning a deceased individual, you must provide proof of death. Acceptable forms of proof of death include: obituaries, death certificates, recognized sources that can be documented, written media, Who’s Who in America, an FBI file that indicates a person is deceased, date of birth is 100 years or greater, or Social Security Death Index page.

If you wish to include additional specific information, attach another sheet of paper to this letter.

Options for sending your request: mail to the address listed below, fax to (540) 868-4391/4997, or e-mail to foiparequest@ic.fbi.gov.

Letter

Date: __

FBI

Record/Information Dissemination Section
Attn: FOIPA Request
170 Marcel Drive
Winchester, VA 22602-4843

Dear FOIA Officer: __

This is a request under the Freedom of Information Act.
Date range of request: __

Description of Request: Please search the FBI’s indices to the Central Records System for the information responsive to this request related to: Sidmo, Chainsaw, Fred [who went and goes by the real name of person below this form]. __

I am willing to pay up to [$ ] for the processing of this request.

Please inform me if the estimated fees will exceed this limit before processing my request.

I am seeking information for personal use and not for commercial use.
Thank you for your consideration,

Name: __
Title (optional):
Business (if applicable): _
Street Address:
City/State/ZIP Code:
Country (if applicable): __
Telephone (optional): ___
E-mail (optional):___

By the way maybe they have your name already just go to their web site and hit folder “Find”.

Sure you'll respond by: ‘I don’t care what they think or say about me”

Wait for a couple weeks to go when you send it in and then go outside to listen for the small drones buzzing around make sure you wear a baseball cap.

sidmo

Sport climber
general delivery
Mar 1, 2012 - 02:46pm PT
wow i got shanghaied again - you don't get it - why is it incumbent on me (or anyone else) to do all that crap just to benefit licky's curiousity? he should do the legwork once so that everyone else can benefit from it many times over - you seem energetic, perhaps you'd like to serve as licky's unpaid volunteer assistant, i don't care to myself - you fans of licky seem so doggedly determined to take sides and make this a turf battle royal, when i just see it as what it is, a forum for discussion - if i or anyone else chooses to share then cool, if not then that's cool too - but not with you . . . or braun . . . or licky himself for that matter - you guys just keep chugging the koolaid - remember what jim jones was alleged to have said during the massacre: "drink. drink. drink"
WBraun

climber
Mar 1, 2012 - 02:51pm PT
We just do this because it's so much fun stringing a nutcase such as you along.

Has absolutely nothing to do with Licky at all since you lack any coherent comprehension of what's really going on.

Bottom line you're an idiot ..... LOL
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Mar 1, 2012 - 02:58pm PT
sidmo, what the hell are you talking about?

I'd like to think Lickey is doing a lot of "legwork" to get this "book" finished. He's asking all the right questions, people are coming forward. You're take on this is coming from someone who nobody knows. You're name hasn't been mentioned, why are you tripping?

Same reason Chainsaw was tripping, just saying.
WBraun

climber
Mar 1, 2012 - 03:06pm PT
LOL too funny huh .....
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Mar 1, 2012 - 03:08pm PT
So when does the book come out?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 1, 2012 - 03:10pm PT
The 'book' is out. It has Werner @ 5-1 winning by a knockout.
lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
Mar 1, 2012 - 03:14pm PT
Sidmo, reason you won’t post your experiences because you have none to contribute, if you do let’s hear them, funniest part your journalistic credentials; let’s hear more of these. Because there are none.

And just a note and Jim Jones. Look up Donald Freed, Freed and Mark Lane wanted me down to take photo shoot in Aug ‘78, said I was going to the valley next couple of days. Could of made some $$$ on that one.

Start saying don’t give a sh%t instead of “I don’t care” maybe will make you more of an unbelievable Sh%thead.

So start off with what you know of Dorn. National Enquirers want to know.
sidmo

Sport climber
general delivery
Mar 1, 2012 - 03:15pm PT
i was thinking about how licky said i must be chainsaw, and it occurred to me that perhaps Wbraun is licky - what better way to initiate interest in a new thread than to be the first to post a reply, albeit under a psuedonym

ask licky's doctor when they will pull the book out of his ace - i'm sure he had an ultrasound by now
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Mar 1, 2012 - 03:17pm PT
Lol.
WBraun

climber
Mar 1, 2012 - 03:52pm PT
sidmo -- "and it occurred to me that perhaps Wbraun is licky

what better way to initiate interest in a new thread than to be the first to post a reply, albeit under a psuedonym"

LOL definitely you're not the sharpest tool in the shed.

Way way too funny .....
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Mar 1, 2012 - 04:21pm PT
I wonder if Sidmo thinks all this is a distraction from the people who were actually involved and he's some how helping them from getting them in trouble...
lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
Mar 1, 2012 - 04:31pm PT
I think sidmo you are suffering from PSTD syndrome:
Let’s see which one or the few actually many you have:

Symptoms of intrusive memories may include:

Flashbacks, or reliving the traumatic event for minutes or even days at a time: yes, yes for sure.

Upsetting dreams about the traumatic event: I would say yes sounds like you are guilty and need to confess.

Symptoms of avoidance and emotional numbing may include:

Trying to avoid thinking or talking about the traumatic event: no to this one

Feeling emotionally numb: could be but what is that you say “I don’t care”

Avoiding activities you once enjoyed: most likely

Hopelessness about the future: yes on this one as well

Memory problems: for sure on this one so that is yes

Trouble concentrating: I would say yes

Difficulty maintaining close relationships: n/a

Symptoms of anxiety and increased emotional arousal may include:

Irritability or anger: yes

Overwhelming guilt or shame: yes

Self-destructive behavior, such as drinking too much: n/a

Trouble sleeping: n/a

Being easily startled or frightened: I would agree

Hearing or seeing things that aren't there: What you posted about Werner as being Licky now that I won’t even comment.

Sorry I think you should seek help. Consider Scientology teaches that people are immortal beings who have forgotten their true nature. Its method of spiritual rehabilitation is a type of counseling known as auditing, in which practitioners aim to consciously re-experience painful or traumatic events in their past in order to free themselves of their limiting effects. Make sure you have the $$$$$$$ to give them for their
techniques.

Or just keeping taking the drugs you are on.
sidmo

Sport climber
general delivery
Mar 1, 2012 - 04:41pm PT
thanx doctor shanghowdy - just as i love getting legal advice from you experts online here, i enjoy mental diagnoses from a legitimate headshrinker like yourself - guess you missed living in the valley since you had all those medical and law school obligations - all that education and yet they couldn't teach you critical thinking, only critical mouthrunning - get your head out from licky's underwear long enough to send me a bill, ok?
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Mar 1, 2012 - 04:43pm PT
You're a troll, being trolled! LOL!
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 1, 2012 - 04:46pm PT
I have submitted FOIA requests to the following agencies and have received a ton of useful information:

US Justice Department
FBI
DEA
US Customs
USAF
US Park Service
FAA
NTSB
And two county Sheriff's departments

The real trick is to know how to write the request that nets the right
info since each agency will sanitize the paperwork.

When Warner and I have dinner together its fairly cheap, we always have
the same thing and only order one dish.
sidmo

Sport climber
general delivery
Mar 1, 2012 - 04:51pm PT
licky, you're back! welcome home homeboy - when you began this jive you ID'ed yourself as a "social climber" and you have now achieved the loftier status of "mountain climber" - what mountain did you ascend licky? or are the tags just more bull for the jive?
lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
Mar 1, 2012 - 05:06pm PT
Critical thinking? You are a joke.

http://www2.parc.com/istl/projects/ach/ach.html posted it a few years back to someone that was delusional as well. Download is free. Was at the time written for use but found to be useless but you would have to know why?

Read it but don’t think you would get past the first page clown.
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Mar 1, 2012 - 05:19pm PT
Uh oh, sidmo is paranoid again!
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